Massholes have a lot to atone for after they elected that asshole in the antique truck. They will fail us again when they elevate some 4th rate Kennedy who will immediately begin running for POTUS, to replace Markey
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 3| "I think he's learned his lesson" says The Concerned Immoderate Darling Collins.
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Massholes have a lot to atone for after they elected that asshole in the antique truck. They will fail us again when they elevate some 4th rate Kennedy who will immediately begin running for POTUS, to replace Markey
I feel like the bone he should throw should be putting more progressive policy in the dem platform.
If that's an assured thing, of course I'd take it! Both frontrunners need her help no matter what.
Direct representation of the left wing of the party on the ticket would be much more reassuring.
I mean, maybe, but given the partisan lean of MA, how much more polarized the country is than 2010, and how poor of a candidate Coakley was, you guys are all spooking yourselves way too much on this. She should be in any administration.
Wow. The hyperbole. Here maybe read this:
And also this:
Where Joe Biden stands on the biggest 2020 issues
Our policy team breaks down all of the presidential candidate’s proposals on the biggest issues driving the 2020 race.
www.politico.com
He's left of Hillary and even Obama. Yes he's made some mistakes in his life and some bad votes. Doesn't make him anywhere near as bad as Trump.
Yeah I do think he should pick someone a great deal to his left but I dont think Warren is the best running mate decision anyway
This is just bizarre and I don't know how you managed to type it.
I don't know why anyone would think Warren would be VP. She's better off influencing his cabinet choices, adding more of her platform to his, and hopefully working on legislation on the newly Dem Senate if all goes well. Biden is the exception, not the role, as a presidential candidate who was picked by the eventual nominee, I think only Bush Sr. had that path in the last 40 years.
The only person who was a candidate I could see as VP is Harris, otherwise I assume it will be a strategic choice from the Senate, House or a Governor.
The only person who was a candidate I could see as VP is Harris, otherwise I assume it will be a strategic choice from the Senate, House or a Governor.
The "platform" is useless because we're not a parliamentary country where every single member of Congress is elected on a manifesto agreed upon by the party at large. When you vote for an MP, you are voting for them as a conduit to a leader to implement their manifesto. The Dem party platform isn't really something that people read or vote on or care about because individual members of congress will run on their own platforms that supersede anything the party itself could do.
I would want both. Not a fan of that Biden tweet either.
Sanders already made them do this four years ago. Biden has moved left even beyond Clinton, but yes people want and deserve more.
People are angry. I've seen friends of mine who are normally very reasonable and measured absolutely lose their shit over Super Tuesday. It's disheartening.
Edwards was also a fellow candidate when Kerry picked him in 04, unless you mean instances where the ticket actually won.
Wow. The hyperbole. Here maybe read this:
And also this:
Where Joe Biden stands on the biggest 2020 issues
Our policy team breaks down all of the presidential candidate’s proposals on the biggest issues driving the 2020 race.
He's left of Hillary and even Obama. Yes he's made some mistakes in his life and some bad votes. Doesn't make him anywhere near as bad as Trump.
Yeah the misinformation used to attack Biden is almost as silly as the stuff used to Attack Bernie
Lets be honest about where they are both at RIGHT NOW
I think people might be reading too much into it, but regardless, it's probably going to be a younger WOC as VP anyway.
I did, but I imagine even among non-winners there aren't many examples.
This is the problem with absolutism. Throwing progressives a bone gets Biden nothing, because they don't want a bone. The progressive block that Biden can't win over with his progressive platform sees an existential crisis for which half-measures are not enough ( and are actually offensive). They may, or may not, vote for Biden but it won't be because of the "politics as usual" approach of compromise. It is actually exactly what they deride: the sheer pragmatism of Biden v Trump that will get them on board and nothing else
I was going to say that if Markey loses you could just appoint him but holy shit their primary's not til September. wtf Mass.
You can also change alllllll of that. The MA Dems love doing it.
That only gives us two options though, one of which is is older than Biden and the other of which could lose us a Senate seat.
I would love a Biden/Warren ticket but if it means losing a senate seat it's not worth it.
Man the rest of the country really needs to catch up to WA, we can just mail our ballots in
Sure but I do think that Bernie getting changes to the platform inherently pushed the window left on the dem party. Biden also pushing for more progressive ideas normalizes them.
I would prefer that over kneecapping warren in the VP slot.
I know here in PA we just got no excuse absentee vote by mail which is effectivily that.
I'm not saying it's the "best" choice, and I'm not sure who would be, but I think Liz would be a fantastic president and being Biden's VP would do a lot to advance to that goal.
Just have to tell ourselves that its more than just Biden we are voting for
Its his VP, His potential cabinet and all the people he will heed and listen to with regards to policy decisions
the broken glass lobby assures us it's the best way to vote and that those liberal hippy states could really use more broken glass.
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yep. Organizing and movement building is not just an intellectual exercise, it has to be an emotionally appealing one too. Campaigning would be a hell of a lot easier if it was purely policy focused, but expanding coalitions and creating solidarity also involves the hard work of, you know, being nice to people. And not just because you're forced to be.
Like what the fuck is that strategy.
It'll do the progressive movement a lot of good when Bernie Sanders is no longer the face of the movement
Coakley would probably run again 🙄
I mean, there is a whole Hollywood movie about how shitty and stubborn she is
I feel like this is an excellent political comedy show bit in the making tbh, but that might be because I'm not a writer on any political comedy shows
Probably a woman president would help but even that wouldn't be the end of it.
Someone has to fall into becoming President (through VP) and be good at it I assume. So pretty likely in the next 8 years!
That was good LMAO
Thanks I needed that
You're right and I know this, but it's always good to reiterate.
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