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KHarvey16

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Oct 27, 2017
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The idea moderate politicians are what's holding us back and not a moderate electorate is really silly political analysis.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Kabir K. on Twitter

“Early results disappointing for Elizabeth Warren in her home state... #SuperTuesday”

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What the fuck? Bernie nearly won MA in 2016. Awful splits for he and Warren.
 

fragamemnon

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Progressive fans need to know that Jayapal is here for you, is a high functioning human being that works well with others, and when we have a trifecta with no filibuster will help tip the scales for tactical wins in bills with the rest of the party backing. Joe will immediately move to deconstruct outrageous executive power and return more to the legislative, where your representatives actually have voice and influence.
 

Autodidact

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Progressive fans need to know that Jayapal is here for you, is a high functioning human being that works well with others, and when we have a trifecta with no filibuster will help tip the scales for tactical wins in bills with the rest of the party backing. Joe will immediately move to deconstruct outrageous executive power and return more to the legislative, where your representatives actually have voice and influence.
I like Jayapal a lot. She's very progressive and a good legislator.
 

ChucklesB

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It's actually the senate.

We'd have public option and other more progressive policy by now. They poll well with the electorate.

Yeah I think it's pretty much proven out that the EC and Senate are much more conservative than the country as a whole. I don't mean you'd run on socialism perhaps, but it would be much easier to run in more liberal lanes if it was just based on popular vote. The math is conservative more than the people.
 

Clowns

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Ultimate Galaxy Brain: Warren stayed in because she knew Biden would resurge after SC, and wanted it to look like she was responsible for cutting off Sanders at the knees to curry favor with ~tEh EsTaBlIsHmEnT~ even though she was a non-factor.
 

ContractHolder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm just done getting interested in Politics. At this point the only thing that will make me care is when AOC runs.

Fuck this Country and all the moderate trash holding us back.

We have to focus on getting more progressives in bluer states on a congressional level and local levels.

Then we'll have the infrastructure to get to that point on a higher level.

That's why AOC is doing that strategy now on trying to prop up people on a local level.

I want us moving towards a more progressive future. But when we don't have that strength party wise or electorate wise, this is what happens.

I won't tell you not to be disheartened. That's your right. But all I'm going to say is look to AOC's example if you really want that future.
 

ChucklesB

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We have to focus on getting more progressives in bluer states on a congressional level and local levels.

Then we'll have the infrastructure to get to that point on a higher level.

That's why AOC is doing that strategy now on trying to prop up people on a local level.

I want us moving towards a more progressive future. But when we don't have that strength party wise or electorate wise, this is what happens.

I won't tell you not to be disheartened. That's your right. But all I'm going to say is look to AOC's example if you really want that future.

I agree with this as a general stance, but also because until you get the EC taken down and more states added to change the math, we're never going to progress as much as the general populace will be ready for, but that takes planning and dedication, which is why I am bummed when Bernie peeps do say they want to give up -- or young people in general (not that I'm old, but I'm not 18-22 either)
 
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