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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 3| "I think he's learned his lesson" says The Concerned Immoderate Darling Collins.
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It doesn't matter how many offices you open if people just don't like you or think you should be president.
You don't want to wait in suspense and have all your hopes crushed on election night?
Sounds like weakness to me.
Yes, I get that he with the most votes should win, that's how it should be, but you're discounting the very public push from the establishment Dems to try to shut Bernie down. It isn't a conspiracy, it's a very real thing backed up by quotes and articles. Remember the quote that some would rather damage the Democratic party than let Bernie have the nom? They're admitting they don't want new young progressive voters, and just want things like they are now (which is garbage and only getting worse). They have no view or plan for the future. Not welcoming and embracing this progressive push is a deathwish for the party, and we're all fucked for the rest of our lives with slanted courts and a lost SCOTUS.
I'll vote blue no matter who, but man I can't stand this safe "let's not go left at all so we don't piss off the moderates", while the country has been going right for decades. Our moderate left is the rest of the world's rightwing. The fact that m4a is considered radical by so many says it all about how far right we've moved. Repeating 2016 with a male candidate this time guarantees another loss; it's the very definition of insanity.
I agree.
Bernie has to win California by more than 10 points and also win Texas to have any significant chance at willing this thing still.
DUDE
COME THE FUCK ON
MANS REALLY DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK UNTIL IT'S HIS OWN ASS ON THE LINE HUH
I'm so goddamn mad
Ted 'Large Animal Vet' Yoho is perfectly suited for his redneck, leave us alone unless you're delivering our Social Security check, CHUD voters.
This state is a miasma of stupidity a lot of the time
Politics is all fun and games until people start dying under YOUR watch and garbage policies right?
DFP did weird second choice combo stuff and assumed no one will vote for Pete and Amy today. Don't know if that's how the actual results will work out.
Yep, an emergency rate cut in tandem with increasing signals that the management of COVID-19 has been spotty at best has done little to allay the massive amount of uncertainty.
Not just racist, but super gropey and creepy. That won't play well at all in MeToo times, specifically with him bumbling so many speeches and sentences.
Correct me if I'm wrong but they didn't exactly show in 2018, did they?
Sanders supporters should strategically vote for Warren you say?
Coming from Ted Yoho with this and voting against the anti lynching bill
Lol, yeah I think it's one of those things that hasn't come up at all so it stays the same.
If the country is going right, as you say, what kind of control can you maintain going further left than the nominally left party?
I think, rather than being nefarious back room dealings by people who hate progressives, it's simply party leaders and stand outs pushing to nominate the person they feel has the best chance to win. No malice required.
*thinking to self*
Oh, I get it. Maybe Trump campaign isn't suing the NYT and wapo on principle but to have a chilling effect and make them think twice about what they publish about his shady shit this election season.
Sorry, a little slow on that one.
Oh, I get it. Maybe Trump campaign isn't suing the NYT and wapo on principle but to have a chilling effect and make them think twice about what they publish about his shady shit this election season.
Sorry, a little slow on that one.
Okay, has all of that translated to anything tangible? What is the push to bring Bernie down? All I've seen thus far is a levelling of the playing field. Now we have two front runners each having to deal with one candidate competing for them with votes on their lane, when 3 days ago Biden had Bloomberg, Pete and Klobuchar competing for the moderate vote, while Bernie had Warren competing for the progressive vote.
Do articles quoting insiders talking about how Bernie as a nominee would be bad for the Democratic Party move the needle in any way? I've yet to see any concrete action taken in that direction.
but wait, how is this an asshole statement? He is supporting free healthcare. (in this hyper-limited case). If you mean because he never gave a shit about healthcare until he or his constituents were scared, that's fair, but I don't think it makes this an "asshole statement". In fact, he recognizes his hypocrisy but conceding he is calling for socialized medicine
Hello lovelies, totally not salty or anything weeb girl is back and just voted for queen Warren
Yaaaaaas
Yaaaaaas
Gabriel Sherman @gabrielshermanBREAKING: Bloomberg has been rejecting his own advisers calls to drop out after South Carolina:https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/bloomberg-resists-advisers-push-to-exit-the-race …
4:01 PM - Mar 3, 2020
“He Will Risk Making Ross Perot and Ralph Nader Look Good”: Bloomberg Resists Advisers’ Push to Exit the Race
With his path disappearing after South Carolina, advisers pressed for a quick exit. But Mike has so far refused: I’ll be damned if I walk away before a single vote is cast for me.
After Joe Biden's decisive victory in South Carolina on Saturday, Mike Bloomberg's campaign advisers lobbied Bloomberg to drop out of the race and endorse Biden before Super Tuesday, four sources briefed on the internal conversations said. Some of the sources said that campaign manager Kevin Sheekey and other top campaign officials argued to Bloomberg that the best chance of beating Donald Trump in November would be for Bloomberg to exit the race to bolster Biden's candidacy as Biden battles with Bernie Sanders for the nomination. "There is a prevailing view Mike should drop out," one Bloomberg adviser told me.
Campaign officials are privately frustrated that Bloomberg rejected their advice to drop out and pour their resources into helping Biden, sources said. "The dynamic of the race clearly changed," a Bloomberg adviser told me. Bloomberg disagreed that Biden's resurgence in South Carolina fundamentally nullified Bloomberg's candidacy. "Mike is a data guy, and he's looking at the numbers thinking, I'll be damned if I walk away before a single vote is cast for me," one source said, explaining Bloomberg's thinking.
Bloomberg's original argument for running was that he would fill the space that Biden's implosion seemed to open up. Now, people close to Bloomberg fear that Bloomberg is playing the spoiler role tonight in delegate-rich states like California by siphoning votes from Biden. "It's clearer than ever after the weekend that it's over and thus he will risk making Ross Perot and Ralph Nader look good if he stays in this," a person close to the campaign told me. A Bloomberg adviser told me that Bloomberg would consider dropping out after Super Tuesday if there continues to be no path. "He's not going to stay in and say, 'Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.'"
Jason Leopold @JasonLeopoldHere is Corey Lewandowski telling Mueller's team how Brad Parscale "was able to put $94 million of campaign money through his business."
From the latest batch of #MuellerMemos (FBI interview summaries @BuzzFeedNews obtained last night)https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1234938751261999106 …
From the latest batch of #MuellerMemos (FBI interview summaries @BuzzFeedNews obtained last night)https://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1234938751261999106 …
3:31 PM - Mar 3, 2020
Oh that's interesting... gee I wonder how the stocks are doing today...
*Sees another 3% drop for Dow Jones today despite reactionary Fed interest rate cut.
Also ton of anti-Bernie and anti-Socialist ads on Era. No anti-Trump ads. Era what are you doing!!!
I highly doubt those mega-publishers give these frivolous lawsuits much thought, nevermind change the way they report. It'll get laughed out of court.
Trump yesterday:
"Do you think our opponents were thrilled when they saw the stock market today?"
"Do you think our opponents were thrilled when they saw the stock market today?"
I mean, if Era is using up R money on an audience it has minimal effect on, sounds like a net positive than them spending it on Facebook or whatever.Oh that's interesting... gee I wonder how the stocks are doing today...
*Sees another 3% drop for Dow Jones today despite reactionary Fed interest rate cut.
Also ton of anti-Bernie and anti-Socialist ads on Era. No anti-Trump ads. Era what are you doing!!!
Then again, could explain some things about the site.
Asked "how so," he says, "There are many people without insurance, and we're looking at that situation for those people."
This man is an empty suit and its infuriating how much one side wants to pretend he's not.
This man is an empty suit and its infuriating how much one side wants to pretend he's not.
You'd be right, but they're not a monolithic entity. If this kind of thing affects one reporter or one editor actions that can be enough.
This is an election. People who aren't Bernie are running for president because they believe their vision of the country is best and also is more likely to attract enough support to beat Trump. What exactly constitutes "not welcoming and embracing this progressive push"...because there are other people running? Should everyone else have stood aside and let Bernie run unopposed? Should Amy and Pete and all the other not-Biden 'moderates' stayed in the race to continue carving up the not-Bernie vote because Bernie can only win with a fractured field like that? I would rather have Bernie than Biden but it doesn't reflect on Bernie's candidacy or movement very well if he can only succeed without any kind of real challenge to it. It is also really disingenuous to say that any of these candidates who aren't Bernie are advocating for things to stay exactly the same. You can argue that Biden's climate plan or public option or other policy proposals don't go far enough; that is not the same thing as "they just want things like they are now" (if that were true, they would not need to be running in the first place!).
Also, as far as new voters go, iirc first-time voters in Iowa and NH were more likely to go for Pete than Bernie. I don't know how they broke down in NV and SC, although for the latter I'd guess first-time voters also weren't redounding to Bernie's benefit.
Medicare for All and single-payer healthcare has always been radical; "Hillarycare" was what helped propel the House Republican surge in 1994. That M4A has roughly 50% approval among Democrats, while dismal for its general election chances, I think actually reflects how far its come as an increasingly accepted proposal.
And this "the Democrats would be the right wing in Europe" talking point needs to fucking die. It was asinine to begin with, but the reality of right-wing movements across the UK and EU that we're seeing *right now* makes the comparison even more ridiculous. You don't have to like Joe Biden to concede he's not fuckin Marine Le Pen or Viktor Orban or Boris Johnson.
It was a joke based on the ads being served up.
A bunch of times I'd see a page of poliera where someone mentioned Tulsi, and then sure enough a tulsi ad would load in.
A bunch of times I'd see a page of poliera where someone mentioned Tulsi, and then sure enough a tulsi ad would load in.
Great, something dems should bang the GOP on going in the election.
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