If any of these go through then Obama should start lining up the lawsuits. Finally we can destroy right wing media.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 3| "I think he's learned his lesson" says The Concerned Immoderate Darling Collins.
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If any of these go through then Obama should start lining up the lawsuits. Finally we can destroy right wing media.
I know we had the discussion a few days ago but it's fresh enough in my mind that I want to remind you all that for large swaths of the country, especially my part of it, people are going to react to that Biden clip from the tweet the exact same way you all react to Nina Turner's hiring decisions.
Both of these have 0% chance of happening in this physical universe so it's like asking what the world would be like if we developed FTL travel
Bernie lost several of those by double digits in 2016. At this point I'm not so sure we can just assume those are favorable to Bernie
Yes it is. Im just looking at 2020 as a stopgap to dump trump. Hopefully in 4 years the next gen will gain more traction bc I really dont think Bernie or Biden will be up for another go.
That's an understatement. This was the south in 2016. Clinton took:
Alabama 73-26
Arkansas 66-30
Georgia 71-28
Tennessee 66-32
Louisiana 71-23
Mississippi 82-16
Florida 64-33.
That gave her a whopping 392 - 173 delegate advantage over Sanders, a 219 delegate edge.
Of those states only Alabama is today. Given that Sanders made no gains at all in SC vs 2016, in the likely event Biden repeats this run things get easier, not harder for him.
Will they be absolute blowouts? Who knows? Pramila could definitely help WA be a blowout.
Well Biden was polling well there in the fall, but I agree that Ohio is an outside shot at best - and that if Ohio is in contention, the presidency (and senate) has already been won.
I should have specified GE candidate. There are hours of footage of him groping and touchy with women and kids. The media's double standard means he'll be held accountable for each and every one, while Trump will again skate by. I'm firmly hoping the penis factor makes up all the difference, countering all the sexism.
Bernie would be the more obvious and impactful choice in that regard, but two nearly 80-year-old guys on the ticket -- with a nearly 80-year-old Speaker who is in line to succeed them both -- feels scarily like tempting fate to me.
I would expect Bernie to do well in NY, WI, MI, PA, NJ, IL, WA. I don't think we are going to have many blowouts from Bernie anytime soon though.
Steyer can do plenty of good on his own being a billionaire and all. Why not someone like Inslee?
Of those, I think only Washington is guaranteed for Sanders. Hillary won Ohio, NJ, Illinois, Pennsylvania and NY last time, and you'd actually expect Biden to appeal even more to the Rust Belt vote (with the 2018 surge of votes from the suburbs helping him). NY Hillary ofc had a home advantage, but still.
In a H2H race, Sanders could easily lose several of those states. He has only won WA's useless primary 55-45 in 2016.
PA? Hillary beat him by over 10 points here, and Biden is from Scranton.
I mean Hillary won CA last time but Bernie is most definitely going to win CA this time. So its not exactly a 1:1 comparison with 2016. Hillary also won Nevada over Sanders last time.
Thats fair, but I dont know enough about Inslee. Meanwhile Steyer put himself out there as pretty much a single policy candidate. Im just gonna assume he feels like he can do more with a bigger podium than his normal business can provide to push environmental change snd focus.
And you can't just assume Bernie will turn around 10-30% losses from 2016 either (or to do as well in states he won). It's almost like me know a whole lot of nothing right now because the race is in chaos.
I think they're justing trying to stir up feelings of grievances, which I think is a disturbingly insightful take on their view of their electorate.
Bernie put a ton of effort and resources into CA *because* clinton beat him badly there in 2016 and its a super tuesday state this time. Last year it was June 7.
None of the other states are in that boat.
Dude, take their money and skew their results. Maybe you can inject a bit of fact and reality into their bubble world by acting the part a bit, then dropping some truth bombs. If it backfires, then screw with them and take the money. I would. It's what they exist to do, so give it back to them.
I would also point out that the reverse also applies. Bernie is likely to do worse in some states that he beat Clinton in last time.
And then Warren comes it to push Bernie over the edge as it was the master plan told to her by Shut Up and Jam Gaiden
Right, because its 2020 and a lot of the doubts about Trump's conservative cred have been erased.
Conversely a lot of doubts about the seriousness of some of his more absurd policies have also been erased.
Definitely. The major problem we have right now is that only 4 states have voted. Today should bring a little clarity.
For what it's worth, I think NY is pretty up in the air. We're not accustomed to mattering in the primary, so I imagine there is a lot of wiggle room for the candidates. If it comes down to Super Tuesday 2, I think a lot of New Yorkers will be saying to themselves "Oh shit, I didn't think we'd matter." I won't lie, I'm one of these people.
What does that have to do with anything? You don't think Bernie gonna put in that work in those other big states too? He put in a ton of work in Texas too and he might even win that too despite Hillary winning that one last time as well. And again, for emphasis.. he just won Nevada in a huge manner (where he put in work) when he didn't in 2016.
I'm not even sure whatever goes down today is really indicative of the rest of the race--a big enough Bernie blowout would probably end it, but Biden having a really, really strong day today doesn't necessarily mean he'll have a strong rest-of-the-primary. The past few days have been insanely good for him, and once that glow fades who knows how things a month from now play out.
Basically this primary is never ending
Basically this primary is never ending
It's helpful that Sanders has an extremely charismatic New Yorker to stump for him there.
Inslee pretty much ran on the single issue of climate change.
That doesn't apply for any of the states you listed. His campaign has not been present to the same degree (if at all) so expecting double digit turnarounds is nonsensical.
CA? NV? TX? Reasonable. States where he has put no effort in, like SC? No.
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