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shadow_shogun

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Oct 25, 2017
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@kylegriffin1
Mitch McConnell's desk has become a legislative graveyard for 275+ bills passed by House Democrats. Now, after months of legislative inactivity, McConnell has scheduled votes on two abortion-related bills in an attempt to energize social conservatives. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/us/politics/abortion-bill-votes.html
Isn't that refutation of the original report the one that sounds like Trump wrote it?
Yeah, at least that's what I thought.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Economists and financial experts have been telling us for years how great things are for U.S. workers and consumers. The stuff we buy is dirt cheap, and living standards are higher than ever. Wages are keeping pace with inflation. Inequality probably isn't as bad as you've been led to believe. The stock market is booming!
So why, then, do so many of us feel like we can barely make ends meet?
A new report published by the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank, offers a clear explanation for the disconnect between the economy described by economists and the one experienced by regular people. It all boils down to the startling shift illustrated in the chart below.

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In 1985, the typical male breadwinner could cover those costs and still have 22 weeks of pay left for everything else a family wants and needs, such as food, clothing, entertainment and savings. Today, the typical salary doesn't even cover the four basics.
It's worth noting that Cass constructed his index around male earnings because men historically were more likely to be sole breadwinners. Plus, polls show that Americans still view men as the primary provider within a family, even though that's increasingly no longer the case
Cass also ran the numbers for female earners, whose median wage is about 80 percent that of men. In 1985, the typical woman needed to work 45 weeks to cover the four big annual expenses; today she needs 66 weeks. That means it was easier for a female breadwinner to provide for her family in 1985 than it is for a lone male earner today.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nicholas Wu @nicholaswu12

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told the Senate Appropriations Committee in a hearing today the risk to the American public from coronavirus "remains low."
https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/02.25.20--Wolf%20Testimony.pdf …

Wolf was grilled by @SenJohnKennedy, who pressed the secretary on estimates for the number of cases in the US and equipment needed:
"You're supposed to keep us safe. And the American people deserve some straight answers on the coronavirus. And i'm not getting them from you."

10:55 AM - Feb 25, 2020


 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nicholas Wu @nicholaswu12

Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told the Senate Appropriations Committee in a hearing today the risk to the American public from coronavirus "remains low."
https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/02.25.20--Wolf%20Testimony.pdf …

Wolf was grilled by @SenJohnKennedy, who pressed the secretary on estimates for the number of cases in the US and equipment needed:
"You're supposed to keep us safe. And the American people deserve some straight answers on the coronavirus. And i'm not getting them from you."

10:55 AM - Feb 25, 2020




Well shit, maybe we shouldn't have so many "ACTING" people in charge of defense. What do you think John?
 

Sheepinator

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Can someone explain that SC Hernandez ruling? I understand they can decide the 4th Amendment doesn't apply because the person shot wasn't inside the US. However it seems like they are also ruling the 5th Amendment doesn't apply? Does this mean random Joes can camp at the border with their assault rifle and kill unarmed people trying to cross the border, and they can't even be sued for damages never mind indicted?
 

AndyD

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Can someone explain that SC Hernandez ruling? I understand they can decide the 4th Amendment doesn't apply because the person shot wasn't inside the US. However it seems like they are also ruling the 5th Amendment doesn't apply? Does this mean random Joes can camp at the border with their assault rifle and kill unarmed people trying to cross the border, and they can't even be sued for damages never mind indicted?
No, it's because he was a national guardsman at the border. A regular person would still be liable under criminal statutes.
 

Amibguous Cad

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Also is coronavirus going to spook people against trump the same way Ebola did to Obama in 2014 or will it play to his benefit because he hates immigrants?

There's some evidence to suggest that fear of contagion is fundamental to conservative politics.

www.theatlantic.com

Liberals and Conservatives React in Wildly Different Ways to Repulsive Pictures

To a surprising degree, our political beliefs may derive from a specific aspect of our biological makeup: our propensity to feel physical revulsion.

I don't think it augurs well for us.
 

maabus1999

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Oct 26, 2017
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Well whoever the nominee is, bond markets are definitely showing full recession fears today due to Coronavirus, which will put a dent in Trump's "strongest" claim. I'm sure he'll be a master...spinner???...on the topic, but losing that support is going to put a massive amount of pressure on him if the markets are right.
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can someone explain that SC Hernandez ruling? I understand they can decide the 4th Amendment doesn't apply because the person shot wasn't inside the US. However it seems like they are also ruling the 5th Amendment doesn't apply? Does this mean random Joes can camp at the border with their assault rifle and kill unarmed people trying to cross the border, and they can't even be sued for damages never mind indicted?
Yeah, I'm wondering if this exception applies to law enforcement only or any americans.
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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Does anyone know if Trump pulled funding from HHS for the border wall? Because I'm of a mind (a stupid one, likely) that Dems should be telling the Trump admin they can get the COVID funding they need by reallocating funds they stole back to HHS.
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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Trump is revisiting the idea of nominating Texas Rep. John Ratcliffe to be the next Director of National Intelligence, sources tell
@kylieatwood
and me, and they have spoken about the job. Other candidates under consideration too.

So if I have this right:

1. Nominate Ratcliffe
2. Pull his nom because he lied about his credentials
3. Wait
4. Renominate Ratcliffe?
 
www.reuters.com

U.S. Supreme Court bars lawsuit over cross-border shooting of Mexican teen

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday barred a lawsuit against a Border Patrol agent for fatally shooting a 15-year-old Mexican boy on Mexican soil from across the border in Texas, refusing to open the door for foreign nationals to pursue civil rights cases in American courts...

Reading it you can see some of the conclusions, seems like the SC passes the buck to congress to decide weither these cases should be allowed or not when it comes to cross border incidents like this as they uphold a lower court decision.

This is just one piece so far but going by the writer on twitter seems like this still only applies federally and state court could be left open but not sure atm.
 

skullmuffins

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, someone in the National Guard can kill people across the border with no consequences? Other than maybe a promotion and a Medal of Freedom from Trump?
they could still be indicted, in theory (not that the DOJ is particularly likely to bring charges). the ruling is about whether the family was allowed to bring a civil action against a federal agent for acting unconstitutionally in the course of their duties in these circumstances
 

Linkura

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Oct 25, 2017
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Economists and financial experts have been telling us for years how great things are for U.S. workers and consumers. The stuff we buy is dirt cheap, and living standards are higher than ever. Wages are keeping pace with inflation. Inequality probably isn't as bad as you've been led to believe. The stock market is booming!
So why, then, do so many of us feel like we can barely make ends meet?
A new report published by the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank, offers a clear explanation for the disconnect between the economy described by economists and the one experienced by regular people. It all boils down to the startling shift illustrated in the chart below.


av8OS6X.jpg


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In 1985, the typical male breadwinner could cover those costs and still have 22 weeks of pay left for everything else a family wants and needs, such as food, clothing, entertainment and savings. Today, the typical salary doesn't even cover the four basics.
It's worth noting that Cass constructed his index around male earnings because men historically were more likely to be sole breadwinners. Plus, polls show that Americans still view men as the primary provider within a family, even though that's increasingly no longer the case
Cass also ran the numbers for female earners, whose median wage is about 80 percent that of men. In 1985, the typical woman needed to work 45 weeks to cover the four big annual expenses; today she needs 66 weeks. That means it was easier for a female breadwinner to provide for her family in 1985 than it is for a lone male earner today.

I thought this was debunked earlier in this thread. Kirblar
 
Oct 26, 2017
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So "moderate Democrats" are worried about Bernie being the front runner.

"Moderate Dems" just like "moderate darlings" are moderate. Hope we vote em out
 

Kirblar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Once Obama failed to talk him out of running, didn't he suggest Biden expand his inner circle or something?

Might be a clue there why the campaign is run aground.
Biden's inner circle was leaking damaging stories.
I thought this was debunked earlier in this thread. Kirblar
It was, and Vox literally just put out a piece on it today as well going into why the 1:1 comparisons don't work. (while somehow missing that the guy screwed up the chart's healthcare costs) https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21151335/oren-cass-cost-of-thriving

This is based on bad math that ignores employer-side health care payments. (copying post from the weekend into this one below)

There was a chart going around on twitter about College/HC/Transportation/Housing inflation that.... is actually wrong. The issue is that if you treat insurance premiums as expenses, you need to add employer-side Insurance payments as income! And, as it turns out, that significantly changes the chart. Now, the corrected data does show disposable income going from 40% to 25% here. That is important. But it doesn't show those other 4 crowding that out completely.


So "moderate Democrats" are worried about Bernie being the front runner.

"Moderate Dems" just like "moderate darlings" are moderate. Hope we vote em out
You have completely missed the point of why "moderate darlings" is in quotes. spoiler: it's because they're not moderate and are roleplaying as an actual moderate.

Sue Collins is a "moderate darling" because she's a straight up partisan R who takes costless votes when she can to make her appear "bipartisan."
 
Oct 26, 2017
12,125
Biden's inner circle was leaking damaging stories.

It was, and Vox literally just put out a piece on it today as well going into why the 1:1 comparisons don't work. (while somehow missing that the guy screwed up the chart's healthcare costs) https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21151335/oren-cass-cost-of-thriving

This is based on bad math that ignores employer-side health care payments. (copying post from the weekend into this one below)

There was a chart going around on twitter about College/HC/Transportation/Housing inflation that.... is actually wrong. The issue is that if you treat insurance premiums as expenses, you need to add employer-side Insurance payments as income! And, as it turns out, that significantly changes the chart. Now, the corrected data does show disposable income going from 40% to 25% here. That is important. But it doesn't show those other 4 crowding that out completely.



You have completely missed the point of why "moderate darlings" is in quotes. spoiler: it's because they're not moderate and are roleplaying as an actual moderate.

Sue Collins is a "moderate darling" because she's a straight up partisan R who takes costless votes when she can to make her appear "bipartisan."

I haven't missed the point. I just didn't write it out well. All "moderate darlings" are just shirtbags that need to be voted out
 
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