US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]

[Sho_Nuff82]

Some more polls:

2020 Democratic Primary

morningconsult.com

Bernie - 25
Biden - 22
Bloomberg - 17
Pete - 11
Warren - 11

Black voters:
Biden - 35
Bernie - 27
Bloomberg - 16
Warren - 8
Pete - 4

Hispanic voters:

Bernie - 38%
Biden - 17%
Bloomberg - 16


Poll for Independents:

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LTTP, but how could any candidate be +18 among independents yet +4 in a GE in the same poll?

 

[OfficerRob]

Well, it's offensive to stereotype older black voters as being self-hating racists, for example.

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I 1000% understand that, but was that really happening here?

 

[Deleted member 5086]

I 1000% understand that, but was that really happening here?

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Yes, it's what the staff post was in response to.

 

[OfficerRob]

Yes, it's what the staff post was in response to.

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Gotcha, I guess I missed that

 

[Tamanon]

I 1000% understand that, but was that really happening here?

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I think the implication of "The young black voters will see this as racism, versus the old black voters will see this as good" is kinda leaning that way.

It's a tricky subject for sure!

 

[shadow_shogun]

@K8brannen
The impeachment trial is over but the evidence is still coming out.

New unredacted emails confirm how deeply OMB misled Congress.

Me for @just_security: https://www.justsecurity.org/68614/...ow-how-deeply-omb-misled-congress-on-ukraine/ …

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[woman]

He deleted it but:

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Why did he delete it oh my god

 

[shadow_shogun]

@mkraju
Johnson: "We're going to be looking into anything where you may have seen improper use of department or agency, it will be certainly one of those things that the secret service was misused in this case."

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Manu Raju
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@mkraju
Asked if it was an attempt to hurt Biden's political chances: "No, we're just trying to take a look at all these issues and see if there's any again, misuse of government agency's departments."
10:28 - 11 Feb 2020

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[Deleted member 176]

Why did he delete it oh my god

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maybe he realized his voters agree with Bloomberg? lol

 

[EvilChameleon]

Primarily, my primary concern today is the primary in New Hampshire.

 

[Aaron]

LTTP, but how could any candidate be +18 among independents yet +4 in a GE in the same poll?

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High undecideds, independents making up a smaller chunk of the electorate.

 

[Iolo]

If Bernie wins Warren is extremely likely to be one of his cabinet secretaries, so I don't know why anyone on Wall Street previously sweating a Warren presidency would feel like they have any easier of a time with Bernie

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Don't say this out loud they might hear you! The ideal situation is one where Bernie is perceived as both unlikely to win and incompetent, then turns out to be neither. Of course we don't know if this will come to pass, but Bernie has benefited from this perception imo.

 

[OfficerRob]

Warren didn't hesitate for a second, she said if Bloomberg is the nominee she will support him and vote for him

 

[Tamanon]

I mean, I don't think Warren would accept a cabinet position. It's a downgrade now.

 

[Kyra]

Warren didn't hesitate for a second, she said if Bloomberg is the nominee she will support him and vote for him

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She knows what's important.

 

[Greg NYC3]

I haven't seen it be a big problem here yet but at the old place during the 2016 election the discussions about black voters not supporting Bernie over Hillary got pretty offensive most of the time. Probably not a bad idea to clarify the discussions now before it's too late.

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Yep, it's just a total coincidence that you only care about this kind of stuff when it's a democratic candidate running for president 🙄

 

[OfficerRob]

No way Warren takes a cabinet position

 

[Aaron]

I mean, I don't think Warren would accept a cabinet position. It's a downgrade now.

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Cabinet plus VP though?

 

[Tamanon]

I haven't seen it be a big problem here yet but at the old place during the 2016 election the discussions about black voters not supporting Bernie over Hillary got pretty offensive most of the time. Probably not a bad idea to clarify the discussions now before it's too late.

Yep, it's just a total coincidence that you only care about this kind of stuff when it's a democratic candidate running for president 🙄

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Honestly, it's why I fear the discourse after SC. Let's see how it goes, but definitely good to get ground rules in place.

 

[Dahbomb]

So Bloomberg will be on the debate stage next week in Nevada?

 

[OfficerRob]

So Bloomberg will be on the debate stage next week in Nevada?

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Yep

 

[Deleted member 176]

So Bloomberg will be on the debate stage next week in Nevada?

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I believe so, but not on the ballot?

 

[Tamanon]

So Bloomberg will be on the debate stage next week in Nevada?

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I think only Biden, Sanders, and Warren are actually qualified under the new rules thus far. We'll see.

 

[Y2Kev]

Warren with independent voters is like giving a speech about farts at the UN. Just no.

 

[ned_ballad]

I mean, I don't think Warren would accept a cabinet position. It's a downgrade now.

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8 years on a cabinet, she'd be ready to retire anyway afterwards

 

[thefro]

I think only Biden, Sanders, and Warren are actually qualified under the new rules thus far. We'll see.

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Buttigieg and Klobuchar both qualified by winning a delegate in Iowa.

 

[shadow_shogun]

Jason Johnson spitting some truth of MSNBC right now re: talking about back voters and not talking to them. I hope they upload the clip.

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@Mediaite
MSNBC's Jason Johnson Blames 2020 Dems for Bloomberg's Candidacy: He Wouldn't Even Be if They Were Doing Better With Black People http://mediaite.com/a/icwww

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[Teiresias]

8 years on a cabinet, she'd be ready to retire anyway afterwards

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So Sanders can run for President at 78, but Warren "will be ready to retire" at the same age? Interesting.

 

[Exellus]

Just want to share a personal story:

Was talking with a friend today about politics. Asked "Have you been following these Democratic Primaries?"
Response was "No not really, I just want to beat Trump. I'll vote for whoever they pick."

So even someone who isn't even AWARE of the candidates right now, who didn't even KNOW the state primary voting day, or even plan to vote in the Primary, is more than happy to vote for the Democrat against Trump.

I think that's a good sign for whoever the Democrat nominee ends up being. I know several people who only vote in the general elections.

 

[ned_ballad]

So Sanders can run for President at 78, but Warren "will be ready to retire" at the same age? Interesting.

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What is this implying?

It's not like she'd run for senate again after being in the cabinet for 8 years. Her replacement would be a term and a half in by that point

 

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Looking forward to the chaos when Steyer wins SC.

 

[OfficerRob]

Looking forward to the chaos when Steyer wins SC.

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You misspelled Bloomberg

 

[woman]

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he really wants to push this narrative that Warren and Sanders haven't done good work with black voters while ignoring the fact that Bloomberg is literally buying their attention and support in a way that nobody else can.

 

[PMS341]

Idk about y'all but I'm pretty much always thinking about 3rd place

 

[Slader166]

 

[Owzers]

winning primaries is boring. Give me the fifth place intrigue or nothing.

 

[SpitztheGreat]

Looking forward to the chaos when Steyer wins SC.

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Can you even imagine...

 

[Deleted member 4346]

Looking forward to the chaos when Steyer wins SC.

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I'd love that. It'd be great for Bernie. I doubt it will happen, I think Biden survives there with a slim margin, but we'll see. After today maybe Biden will absolutely crater.

 

[Happo]

oh god, the name of that twitter account Trump is replying to.

 

[woman]

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Bloomberg only up 3 here, Pete being the huge gainer with 7 points

 

[Wilsongt]

gaetz, Maga Haberman, and Dawson getting into on twitter. Lmao.

 

[Wilsongt]

oh god, the name of that twitter account Trump is replying to.

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is... is he talking about dicks?

 

[RastaMentality]

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I hope this is actually where the race is lmfao

 

[Greg NYC3]

oh god, the name of that twitter account Trump is replying to.

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He also has smaller manboobs though so it balances out.

is... is he talking about dicks?

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Yeah and he shouldn't be based on what Stormy had to say.

 

[Chained Prometheus]

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So apparently Biden went from 30% in the last Monmouth poll to 16% here.

Guys, he lost almost half of his support in one poll.

Looking forward to the chaos when Steyer wins SC.

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This would be perfect.

 

[Deleted member 31817]

oh god, the name of that twitter account Trump is replying to.

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Short ball very

This man has a terrible grasp on language, it's fascinating

 

[Deleted member 31817]

he really wants to push this narrative that Warren and Sanders haven't done good work with black voters while ignoring the fact that Bloomberg is literally buying their attention and support in a way that nobody else can.

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And white voters are tripping over themselves to vote for fucking Pete lol

 

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You misspelled Bloomberg

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xp

but seriously, Steyer has recently been second or third in polling in SC. A Biden collapse today could legit shake his support and allow Steyer to gain in SC.

Can you even imagine...

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Biden campaign would be on suicide watch.

 

[Tamanon]

oh god, the name of that twitter account Trump is replying to.

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Russia has some weird angles going on.

 

[Huncho_Houdini]

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The moderate lane is fractured like hell, holy shite. Like I said before, shit is about to get messy. There's a lot of crossover between second choices. Bernie can take it away with the momentum from NH --> NV. If he does so, he can cement himself into Super Tuesday. If he falters today to Buttigieg, it's gonna be a much tougher road for him.