I suppose it matters in the sense that if this God-forsaken system survives into 2024, whoever is writing shit down will have carte blanche to irrevocably "fudge" SDEs because math is hard.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]
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NH is hard to poll because Independents can vote (unless im wrong). Going into NH last time, Bernie was thought to win, but he ended up winning by 23%. This time around it is hard to know what will happen. The independents might go more for a centrist person like Pete, Klob, or Warren. Or they could go for Bernie again. Also, with the GOP primary not being contested, more right leaning Independents might involve themselves in the Democratic primary?
Yes, Perez got I thnk seven other states to switch from caucuses to primaries, but Iowa wouldn't. Because of their grand tradition they take very seriously!
And because NH has a law that says they must be the first primary which contributed to the 2008 fuckery
they will push their primary up as far as necessary and we are stuck with this shit until the party is willing to write off their delegates like they did to MI and FL but with the difference being that NH and IA actually care enough that it could have GE implications
Just imagine what it would look like if they didn't take it so very seriously.
Tom Perez did something!
Sorry, I honestly don't keep up with the happenings of the DNC, but was this big news when it happened?
There's still one delegate waiting on the final tally. It goes to whoever wins the SDE count. If Sanders gets it, it'd be 13-13, if he doesn't it'll be 14-12 in Buttigieg's favor.
Hilarious and completely predictable.
Senate Republicans now have absolutely zero leverage over him. There's no legislation Trump wants to push and he knows they'll confirm judges regardless of what he does.
Also I don't know why these moderates thought it was good to put their name in the NYT report. It just makes them look completely weak and feckless. I'm sure swing voters are thinking, "Yes, let's have more Republicans in Congress that Trump will ignore".
I think Tulsi was the original Trojan Horse but she released the Spartans way too soon when Hilary exposed her. Yang definitely seems like he was the conservative dudebro's Plan B with his comments the past 24 hours.
OOOOOOOOOF
Yiiiikes. This feels like a meme in the making.
Lol. Wtf is this
Pete's merch sucks. What is the message of this shirt supposed to even be:
It looks like a powerpoint slide from an office motivational training seminar.
It looks like a powerpoint slide from an office motivational training seminar.
RBTTBRSDEJ!!!Pete's merch sucks. What is the message of this shirt supposed to even be:
It looks like a powerpoint slide from an office motivational training seminar.
Honestly I don't know but some of this merch is so bad I want to buy it.
Those are the core tenets of his campaign, he first announced them when he started his bid.Pete's merch sucks. What is the message of this shirt supposed to even be:
It looks like a powerpoint slide from an office motivational training seminar.
It's a bad strategy tho
political slogans should be lean and mean
Making Chris Morroco's Spicy Sweet Sambal Pork noodle recipe and watching backflips and bioforge tonight
(holy shit this recipe is so good)
(holy shit this recipe is so good)
It's not a slogan.
BA/PoliERA crossover~
oh lol I thought this was the Giant Bomb thread.
I think the drew gif threw me
Lol jesus christ. How this guy is surging is absolutely beyond mePete's merch sucks. What is the message of this shirt supposed to even be:
now this is some top tier cringe
God it's sad that 4th for Biden in NH would be not the worst imaginable thing. Really, this is highlighting how awful IA and NH are for starter states. Add in one being a caucus? You've got a process that's not even democratic and the campaigning is pandering to people who don't remotely represent the diversity of the party. It's not all the same set of issues. On the flip side, they're absolutely perfect for GOP starter states.
Biden's obviously in a heap of trouble, but if he can still pull a 1st/2nd in NV and win SC this'll largely get shrugged off and he's betting on going into automatic mode from super tuesday on, which is forced since he can't have much money right now.
Booty seemingly taking moderate votes from Biden is the unexpected twist in the last couple weeks coming into Iowa, but we have no idea if it'll hold. He'll still polling garbage nationally. Warren is stuck in the same spot she's been in for months in that she's seemingly everyone's 2nd pick on everything but don't win any particular demographic. She'll have to hope for a brokered convention. Sanders absolutely must win NH and be 1st/2nd in NV. Klobb is here for no goddamn reason anymore other than to fish for a Sanders VP slot. It's miserable she's still here when so many more interesting candidates have been out for ages.
Biden's obviously in a heap of trouble, but if he can still pull a 1st/2nd in NV and win SC this'll largely get shrugged off and he's betting on going into automatic mode from super tuesday on, which is forced since he can't have much money right now.
Booty seemingly taking moderate votes from Biden is the unexpected twist in the last couple weeks coming into Iowa, but we have no idea if it'll hold. He'll still polling garbage nationally. Warren is stuck in the same spot she's been in for months in that she's seemingly everyone's 2nd pick on everything but don't win any particular demographic. She'll have to hope for a brokered convention. Sanders absolutely must win NH and be 1st/2nd in NV. Klobb is here for no goddamn reason anymore other than to fish for a Sanders VP slot. It's miserable she's still here when so many more interesting candidates have been out for ages.
4th -> 5th -> 2nd is completely awful for Biden. I don't see how three weeks of wall to wall negative coverage doesn't completely kill the campaign and dry up funds.
also signs of a desperate campaign:
also signs of a desperate campaign:
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Biden's problem isn't Iowa or NH. It's that he's far past his prime and literally the only thing he has is not even really him but Obama
His insipid campaigning in Iowa showed this. Him being really weak on the debate stage showed this. If it wasn't for Pete getting banished to the shadow realm after getting called out for his "them blacks were doing gang crime anyways" response, he probably would have had the weakest performance.
Like the CNN black focus group was pretty telling. Everyone supported Biden because of "electability" but only a single person was going to vote for him in the primary. That makes you super vulnerable if you're getting your lunch eaten by other moderates.
His insipid campaigning in Iowa showed this. Him being really weak on the debate stage showed this. If it wasn't for Pete getting banished to the shadow realm after getting called out for his "them blacks were doing gang crime anyways" response, he probably would have had the weakest performance.
Like the CNN black focus group was pretty telling. Everyone supported Biden because of "electability" but only a single person was going to vote for him in the primary. That makes you super vulnerable if you're getting your lunch eaten by other moderates.
Interestingly, Biden's seemingly backed away from the Noun, Verb, Obama formula over time. Maybe he should have stayed with it? I don't know. It's been beaten like a dead horse but it appeals to the voters he needs.
Not sure about how news cycles will actually look. Never underestimate Trump's compulsive need to try to be the top story every day and take up maximum TV pundit roundtable time, and we know he's itching to do some dramatic crap soon.
Oh yeah it'd be awful, but he's not actually out of it until we see how SC goes. NV should be tight vs Sanders, but I'd slightly favor Bernie currently. Assuming Biden manages SC soundly, it'd be a titanic Sanders vs Biden Super Tuesday to see who can take the claim of frontrunner. Hey, at least I like seeing Biden actually campaign now and engage the other candidates. He should have started it ages ago but he'd been playing the frontrunner/inevitability thing for months. Sanders will be rolling in cash if he does well on Super Tuesday and will better be able to keep running a sustained campaign the rest of the way. Biden really really really needs money.
Not sure about how news cycles will actually look. Never underestimate Trump's compulsive need to try to be the top story every day and take up maximum TV pundit roundtable time, and we know he's itching to do some dramatic crap soon.
Whywhywhywhy you're getting nervous man!4th -> 5th -> 2nd is completely awful for Biden. I don't see how three weeks of wall to wall negative coverage doesn't completely kill the campaign and dry up funds.
also signs of a desperate campaign:
Populism only works if you're painting the existing power structure as always working against you/"the enemy of the people" etc
At least in 2020 we'll get a fascinating look at left vs right in a way we haven't really seen in Europe since the 20s and 30s, and that turned out swell for us
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NEW: Nevada Democrats are developing a new "tool" to be preloaded onto iPads and distributed to precinct chairs. The tool — which volunteers who attended a training today were told is not an "app" — will fold in early vote results on Caucus Day. Story coming soon on @TheNVIndy.
8:53 PM - Feb 8, 2020
NEW: Nevada Democrats are developing a new "tool" to be preloaded onto iPads and distributed to precinct chairs. The tool — which volunteers who attended a training today were told is not an "app" — will fold in early vote results on Caucus Day. Story coming soon on @TheNVIndy.
8:53 PM - Feb 8, 2020
Nevada Democrats debut to volunteers new iPad-based ‘tool’ to calculate math on Caucus Day in the wake of Iowa fiasco - The Nevada Independent
Nevada Democrats are planning to use a new caucus tool that will be preloaded onto iPads and distributed to precinct chairs to help facilitate the Caucus Day process, according to multiple volunteers and a video recording of a volunteer training session on Saturday.
Nevada Democrats are planning to use a new caucus tool that will be preloaded onto iPads and distributed to precinct chairs to help facilitate the Caucus Day process, according to multiple volunteers and a video recording of a volunteer training session on Saturday.
The new tool will help precinct chairs fold in the results from people in their precinct who chose to caucus early with the preferences of in-person attendees on Caucus Day by calculating the viability threshold and carrying out the two alignments in the caucus process, according to the volunteers and the video recording. Details about the tool come two days after Nevada Democrats said that they would not use any apps for their Feb. 22 caucus after a coding error in a similar program used by Iowa Democrats delayed the release of results from that state's nominating contest earlier this week.
In the video, a party staffer tells volunteers that the new mechanism "is not an app" but should be thought of as "a tool."
"What we've done after Iowa is consult with a group of tech and security folks who are helping us through this process and making sure that we're doing this in a way that is simple and efficient and secure for all of you so that we're giving you the best tools we can possible on Caucus Day," the staffer said. The new tool will "flow your precinct early vote data, so that you can have the information for your precinct caucus, so that when you do your viability calculations, you're able to get the number of people who voted early and then when you see the results of your first alignment, you're able to key in that early vote information so that you have every piece of information you need to run your precinct caucus."
Asked by a volunteer whether results would be transmitted from one place to another, the staffer demurred.
"Those are all excellent questions, and we're still working out some of the details around those so I'll make sure that everyone has more information as we're able to share it," she said.
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Why are they doing daily tracking polls of NH and reporting changes within MoE as if they mean anything? lol.
They're not using an app. They're using a "tool". Nothing to worry about.
Anyone could see from a mile away that using an untested phone app would be a disaster. That's why we at the Nevada caucus are using iPad.
I'm going to vote for whoever at this point.
This is why I always felt bidens targeting by Trump was a blessing I'm disguise. No one likes Biden. It was a weird choice to go after. If I was a tyrant I'd go after Sanders warren or buttigeig.
The stability of the app is dependent on the size of the device. That's just science.
(Nevada is gonna be another messssssss)
This is why no Republicans are going to do anything of valor until Trump is gone. It's not worth it to them to do the right thing and face the cult. I don't feel bad for them at all for creating this but it is so foreboding for the future of this country and example 9000000 why social media has been a huge step back.
What is with the obsession with apps. Did someone in Nevada's Democratic Party have a fresh out of community college nephew ask for IT work experience or something?
What can even be "preloaded" onto an iPad that's not an app?
theyre just putting a bookmark in Safari, aren't they?
Well, connecting straight to Google Docs is going to be a million times better than that absolute piece of trash produced by Shadow.
Don't worry, Jane Sanders will be under federal investigation by the summer. That's why they gave the Toensing boy a job at Justice.
To be fair, this kind of shenanigan will happen no matter what once Trump and the GOP know who the Democratic nominee is. The question is how effective any of it will actually be towards the masses.
And will they accept the help of "millionaires and billionaires" in combating it?
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