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US PoliEra 2020 |OT 2| Dershowitz says "Quid Pro Quo on the Go?" [See Staff Post]
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I mean, WTF. This is worse. This may give a false narrative.
I remember seeing how the media were stroking themselves into a frenzy when that happened. Obama had to nip it in the bud more than once just fr them to stop talking about it.
Biden losing NH isn't a big deal (Sanders is generally leading comfortably), he just needs to not lose badly and get better than 3rd place.
Right now the eyes are on Nevada and if Bernie picks that up to in 3 straight wins... that's a narrative that we can start talking about. Then when it comes to SC, Bernie just has to be viable and not lose hard against Biden which then makes things interesting. Not to mention Bloomberg and Steyer playing spoilers in SC and then Bloomberg on Tuesday.
Basically it's not an easy path to the nomination for Biden if he loses Nevada.
Right now the eyes are on Nevada and if Bernie picks that up to in 3 straight wins... that's a narrative that we can start talking about. Then when it comes to SC, Bernie just has to be viable and not lose hard against Biden which then makes things interesting. Not to mention Bloomberg and Steyer playing spoilers in SC and then Bloomberg on Tuesday.
Basically it's not an easy path to the nomination for Biden if he loses Nevada.
I don't think he would have if the old people had Facebook in 2008. That was still the chain e-mail era.
Good and I hope there isn't a screwup here
Seriously, she's RTing Walker Bragman for fuck sakes
If Biden's whining this much about results... chile
also LOL
also LOL
The 50% results are going to be very similar to Bernie's numbers because that's about what he posted as well so I expect Bernie to be on top in that and then Buttiegeg close behind followed by Warren.
LOL @ Biden filing an injunction though.
LOL @ Biden filing an injunction though.
He disowned him. Plus the media up played that connection to begin with, so it worked when he disowned him.
My fantasy right now is that enough Republican Senators will go against what they have said and surprisingly vote to remove trump from office tomorrow - they've just kept it close to their vest so as to not antagonize Mitch and the rest of the GOP....
And since I'm dreaming, I'd like a couple hundred million dollars, which would be enough to live off the interest.
And since I'm dreaming, I'd like a couple hundred million dollars, which would be enough to live off the interest.
On an unrelated note, Bloomberg seems to be a catalyst for my Trump supporting father to realize that maybe Trump really isn't as rich as he claims. Talking to my Dad during the super bowl, he pointed out that Bloomberg is trying to buy his way into the race, spending $200 million so far. I brought up all the things he's buying for his staff (iPhone 11pros, catering, etc), because he's a real billionaire. This is nothing to him. That seemed to outline a real contrast with Trump, when all the other evidence he's not as wealthy as he claims, has not done so.
He's more reluctant to admit he's a supporter as well.
He's more reluctant to admit he's a supporter as well.
really sad when the entire thing ultimately boils down to a dick size contest but between *billionaires
Yeah, I was thinking it might end up being something along these lines. There's a possibility out there that their inability to accurately report complete and more detailed numbers ends up showing exactly how error prone this ridiculous system is.
It also shines light on the fact that the US is an oligarchy. It's a big reason why Bernie has such a rabid following. People are tired of rich, connected people falling upwards and screwing up everything (see the Iowa caucus for the latest example).
It's good to see Warren, Klob, and Yang relaxed. Getting to see them "live" on the campaign trail without winner/loser distractions is good for all of them. Steyer and Sanders spending time complaining rather than campaigning, pick it up guys and get to NH.
Weaver was bad yesterday in both spreading "backroom deal" conspiracies in interviews, and releasing incomplete and context-weak numbers. Both a disservice to Sanders. Sanders just called it a bad night for democracy, I think this hyperbole should be discouraged even though he did praise the people of Iowa.
Buttigieg's victory-style speech was just fine to deliver last night, but releasing their own incomplete and context-weak numbers and taking time insisting on victory today, just isn't the way. He will learn.
Biden - wtf? Sending letters from general counsel and filing injunctions is what Trump does. Come on.
Democrats and technology - continue to infuriate. You know how votebot gives you a receipt for your goty submission when it's processed? The app should have provided a receipt to these volunteers. Plus the lack of prepared contingency should cause voters to demand change. It was bad enough with the rollout of the ACA exchanges.
Volunteers in Iowa - people out there and headlines should stop shitting on them. Individual caucuses by and large went fine.
Weaver was bad yesterday in both spreading "backroom deal" conspiracies in interviews, and releasing incomplete and context-weak numbers. Both a disservice to Sanders. Sanders just called it a bad night for democracy, I think this hyperbole should be discouraged even though he did praise the people of Iowa.
Buttigieg's victory-style speech was just fine to deliver last night, but releasing their own incomplete and context-weak numbers and taking time insisting on victory today, just isn't the way. He will learn.
Biden - wtf? Sending letters from general counsel and filing injunctions is what Trump does. Come on.
Democrats and technology - continue to infuriate. You know how votebot gives you a receipt for your goty submission when it's processed? The app should have provided a receipt to these volunteers. Plus the lack of prepared contingency should cause voters to demand change. It was bad enough with the rollout of the ACA exchanges.
Volunteers in Iowa - people out there and headlines should stop shitting on them. Individual caucuses by and large went fine.
Having Weaver come out on camera and talk about their internal results is just a bad look. Absolutely no need for that. If the initial results are good for Bernie they could just hammer Pete for declaring victory. Now they just continue to muddy the waters. In terms of strategy it makes no sense, and wouldn't surprise me if this was Weavers idea. Smells like some dumb shit he would cook up.
It's a good point. Predictit is fucking around money. People with actual inroads in politics go through the regular market lol
Last night was most definitely a bad night for Democracy, I don't think it can be spun any other way.
Also y'all ready for more BLOOMBERG ad?
Also y'all ready for more BLOOMBERG ad?
People are certainly trying
Idk why admitting it and demanding accountability is so hard
Nah he's right, just feel bad for people wasting their money on Predictit lol
If they're going to only release 50% today, don't even fucking bother releasing. Release when you have the final numbers you fucksticks. Though it seems like it's so fucked we might never have accurate, true numbers, and if that's the case, wtf do they do?
I love this too much.
Great av potential.
Probably not, he MAY have gotten ONE precinct delegate but you need an actual state delegate to qualify.
I love this too much.
Great av potential.
I mean, the positions are 1) Caucuses suck for democracy and should go away, and 2) This caucus sucks because an app delayed results that benefit our candidate, and 3) the DNC and a Zionist hedge fund guy manipulated the results for 24 hours to give a ratman vaguely okay press.
I don't see anyone actually defending this nonsense, lol.
God, fuck Alabama and fuck this misogynistic cesspool of a country.
If they only release half of the results conspiracy theories are going to be the dominant narrative.
We likely never had "accurate" numbers from an Iowa caucus. There were Iowa caucus problems in elections past. It's not a new or sudden thing. Really. Accuracy and integrity confirmation of the process was never really challenged until this year.
What passed for tech-savvy then (and in Dean's campaign) is now either table stakes for any statewide campaign or just flat-out obselete.
NC would be a killer first state. One of the best early voting infrastructures in the country and a huge range of Democrats from all backgrounds.
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