I laughed
I laughed
But....the other candidates aren't running on bringing millions of new people into the process. That's Bernie's whole thing. he's going to bring in millions of new voters, folks who have never taken part...and there is literally no evidence of that. In fact, first time caucus goers was down pretty heavily from 2016. If your entire thing is "I can win over rural whites, and I will bring in new people" and then you do neither of those things.....that's not good for your argument as to why someone should uspport you over someone else.Then what does it say about the other candidates? Do we get a "final vote" in November?
CNN saying Iowa hung up on the campaign folks when they started asking questions? Fucking coverup about to happen.
An interesting point - maybe choice paralysis explains lower than expected turnout (IF TRUE):
Or maybe Iowa is just becoming a more entrenched red state and there are less Dems there?Joy on MSNBC just made a really good point. Assuming that turnout is level or down from 2016, this is really a repudiation of the idea that Bernie can leverage some white rural surge and win the White House. It's not reality based on what the numbers might be showing.
How the hell does Robby Mook still have a job after fucking up Clinton's campaign so hard that he's basically fucked the entire world politically.
There's a full paper trail now with signed ballots for every caucus goer. We'll get accurate results. Eventually.
Give them Iowa's senate seats too pleasePuerto Rico has roughly the same population as Iowa. Make Puerto Rico a state, strip Iowa of their statehood, and give PR the 6 electoral college votes Iowa has.
But....the other candidates aren't running on bringing millions of new people into the process. That's Bernie's whole thing. he's going to bring in millions of new voters, folks who have never taken part...and there is literally no evidence of that. In fact, first time caucus goers was down pretty heavily from 2016. If your entire thing is "I can win over rural whites, and I will bring in new people" and then you do neither of those things.....that's not good for your argument as to why someone should uspport you over someone else.
By turning out our voters, not chasing after imaginary ones that don't exist. By running up margins among voters of color, by making states like Arizona and Georgia in play. The issue is building an entire strategy around young voters and new voters. It's a bad strategy. It literally never works. And, Bernie may win, that's cool if he does. But there is nothing indicating he is anywhere close to do what he and his supporters claim he can/will do.Yes, but all of the candidates should be running with that message. How else are we going to beat trump?
Oh it's definitely a caucus shitshow. All the first vote then realignment shit caused this confusion. Voting machines with paper ballots should be all thats needed.My question is, is there anything specific to caucuses in this results shitshow, or could it happen during primary results reporting? By all accounts, the caucuses themselves took place orderly and without issue. Iowa needs to be penalized extremely heavily for this screwup, but it's not clear to me the blame lies with the caucus process.
My question is, is there anything specific to caucuses in this results shitshow, or could it happen during primary results reporting? By all accounts, the caucuses themselves took place orderly and without issue. Iowa needs to be penalized extremely heavily for this screwup, but it's not clear to me the blame lies with the caucus process.
I think it's good and her message is great.Not going to lie this Warren speech is bland. Just meh so far.
How the hell does Robby Mook still have a job after fucking up Clinton's campaign so hard that he's basically fucked the entire world politically.
Yes, but all of the candidates should be running with that message. How else are we going to beat trump?
Yeah, this speech isn't for us. Not progressive-sounding, big-dreams, america does big things, amass a campaign army. It's kind of like a convention speech.Not going to lie this Warren speech is bland. Just meh so far.
Should have asked about Facebook tbh. Especially judging the average of the people at the caucus.I feel like one of the bigger things people should take away from the entrance poll:
Only 18% of people use Twitter to get political news.
Twitter is not reality. Shit that plays on Twitter does not always play with the electorate. People are not incredibly online.
Not so long as they have that dumb law that they have to be eight days ahead of everyone elseI honestly think this is the end of caucuses AND Iowa going first, so we all win tonight
I feel like one of the bigger things people should take away from the entrance poll:
Only 18% of people use Twitter to get political news.
Twitter is not reality. Shit that plays on Twitter does not always play with the electorate. People are not incredibly online.
My friend who is a ride or die Bernie Stan tells me about this untapped voter turnout wave Bernie will have. I keep telling him "that's great! Bernie should consider using some of this magic voter turnout dust to win the primary" 🤷🏻♂️With the same playbook we used to Klobber the GOP in 2018.
Bernie's compact for nomination was that he could get a new coalition to come out and vote to make up for the huge number of people that he'll turn off. If that isn't happening, he's completely unelectable.