Which poll ? The polls I have show sanders voters the least likely to not support a dem.
2020 Biden and AOC would not be in the same party.
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Which poll ? The polls I have show sanders voters the least likely to not support a dem.
2020 Biden and AOC would not be in the same party.
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People also overestimate their scope and importance legislatively. It wasn't a blue wave of one or four in Congress, it was the work of multiple activist groups to win seats in all states and levels of government. Majorities and chamber control at all levels are going to be needed to make the kind of progress people are putting their expectations in one presidential candidate to make happen.
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Shocking though it may be, he could be living outside of the US and not in a country with a MP system. ;)
Her pettiness is probably why those high profile people were against her.
Fun fact. The Green Party in New Zealand despite 20 years in Parliament has never been part of a Coalition government. But they provide confidence and supply to Labour governments because who else are they going to support?
Kendra Horn raised over $800K in Q4.
Her most prominent opponents raised less than half that amount.
Most ridiculous thing in Florida since Florida GOP tired to convince Jim Oberweis to run in Florida.
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I mean, our republican (Comstock) might not be a republican much longer lol
This woman is awful at this. Completely void of personality or charisma. Warnock would eat her or Collins alive.
Left parties supporting Macron over Le Pen in France doesn't change the fact that Macron is center-right.
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The democtratic party is not right. Or center right.
Or even center.
On economics? Yeah. His opponent was to his left on economics... but also a Nazi. They decided one was a lot more important than the other. On top of that France was also literally the one exception in the world where their labor laws needed to be moved rightward because of how suffocating they were to the economy.
Get used to it if/when Trump is ever no longer King. He'll be tweeting daily about how much better he would be, even if it's an R in there.
Also, she's not wrong. If the people who voted for Bernie in the primaries had voted for her in the key swing States instead of voting for Trump or nobody, she would have won those States by larger margins that Trump won them. I wonder how they feel now.
Here's How Many Bernie Sanders Supporters Ultimately Voted For Trump
Yes, Bernie Sanders supporters who voted for President Trump could have cost Hillary Clinton the election. But then, about the same share of Republican primary voters defected to Clinton.
www.npr.org
Also it's really revisionist to say that Sanders people were out there on balance hurting Hilary, when Sanders campaigned his ass off for Hilary far more than than Hilary ever supported Obama. Sanders was outspoken against voting third party.
Yah, her TV ads are more boring than Bloomberg's here and that's saying something lol
I personally know people who voted Trump after supporting Bernie. They were(are) fanatical for Bernie and felt betrayed when he campaigned for Hillary. They would have followed Bernie into the Sun but drew the line on voting Hillary and they justified it with Bernie's own words.
Bernie's legacy is going to be delivering the Presidency to Trump twice.
Lol Shillary isn't talking about Birdie. She's talking about Susan Sarandon and Tina Turner.
I'm curious how vitriolic the Primary gets when Warren doesn't immediately drop out after Iowa.
I'm curious how vitriolic the Primary gets when Warren doesn't immediately drop out after Iowa.
Yes, Bernie did work, but he also took a long time to endorse her, and tbh if you need to come out and encourage your own supporters not to protest vote less than two months before the election, the damage is already done.
that is my biggest fear.
edit: and the fact that a lot of people here, both USA and elsewhere, don't get this type of resentment-based voting is starting to upset me a bit. How can you talk to people about what happened back in 2016 and beyond when they won't even accept the basic facts of it?
Do parties that is further to the left to the main dominant left party ever influence the dominant left party( which I assume is center to center left).
Chief Justice doing literally nothing during a sham trial, not even enforcing the rules about absentees, while sitting there wearing his $30,000 watch.
It's kinda funny that Bloomberg said he got in to prevent Bernie... But may end up helping him win a plurality of delegates.
i assume it's a reference to the numbers crunched by g. elliot morris for a hypothetical ranked choice dem primary where his data had about half of sanders supporters refusing to pick a second choice candidate which ended up handing the nomination to Biden. i don't think you can apply it to what people would do in the general election though
I mean they extract concessions for confidence and supply, but they are ultimately limited by the fact that they have no other natural coalition. The centre-left / dominant left wing party is their only option to govern.
Oh THAT. It's not even clearly representative of the people that will be there on caucus night.
Those people sound like racists to me and I'm relatively skeptical they would've voted for Bernie over Trump.
While no one was looking, Bloomberg has crept nationally to 4th place just behind Warren.
What a load of bull shit. This guy got in the race in November!
Would probably be in a close 3rd behind Sanders if he actually started campaigning earlier.
What a load of bull shit. This guy got in the race in November!
Would probably be in a close 3rd behind Sanders if he actually started campaigning earlier.
Clinton: "All the way up until the end, a lot of people highly identified with his campaign were urging people to vote third party, urging people not to vote,"
Killer Mike, vocal Sanders supporter and high profile surrogate: "If you don't want any war, you'd be voting Jill Stein. If you want less government and war, you'd be voting Gary Johnson. But if you're voting for Trump or Hillary Clinton, you're voting for the same thing."
Briahna Joy Gray, national press secretary Sanders 2020 campaign: "I voted for Jill Stein."
Susan Surrandon, vocal Sanders supporter and high profile surrogate: "Fear of Donald Trump is not enough for me to support Clinton, with her record of corruption."
Cornel West, Sanders' pick to help the DNC platform committee in 2016 and high profile surrogate: "This November, we need change. Yet we are tied in a choice between Trump, who would be a neo-fascist catastrophe, and Clinton, a neo-liberal disaster. That's why I am supporting Jill Stein."
The primary is open but really set up weird because of the wording and everyone gets a ballot because of vote by mail. Polling feels super crapshooty here. Jayapal endorsed Bernie, which matters, but DelBene/Schrier and Cantwell/Murray haven't made endorsements yet.
edit: I appreciate what Hillary is trying to say here-if Sanders' can't get his own loyalists on the same page, how on earth does he lead a big tent party. Legit criticism, he won't and will shrug when everything's a messaging shitshow.
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I'm curious to see how real it is vs him just running up the percentages in states that he is the only person running ads in
Le Pen wasn't left wing on economics. Xenophobic protectionism isn't left wing because it works on the theory that some humans should have priority over others, just like neoliberal Austrian corporate globalism isn't left wing because it prioritizes the rich.
Some left parties have a right wing policy on trade and immigration, but that doesn't make it left wing.
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