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fragamemnon

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Not in Nevada. Petes numbers with minorities are brutal right now. Biden is the most realistic option for beating Bernie in NV.

I'd rather bet on momentum, organization in-state, and money on Pete being able to make up ground than Biden's cratering, broke, mess of campaign that has repeatedly shown bad judgement and poor information awareness for months.
 

TheFatOne

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I'd rather bet on momentum, organization in-state, and money on Pete being able to make up ground than Biden's cratering, broke, mess of campaign that has repeatedly shown bad judgement and poor information awareness for months.
Pete needs to win NV to have momentum, and his chances there are slim. He's going to be fighting over white voters with 5 other people. His numbers with hispanic and black voters will start to sink him in NV, and SC. The momentum argument is about to end for Pete, and how far can you go without winning over minority voters is the big question.
 

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These seem like two awesome politicans who should be running for Presdident

*pause*

Wait, I'm being told they did run for President, but we decided a Final Five of Biden, Bernie, Amy, Pete, and Bloomberg was a better idea.
The Castro who did run is a bit* of a prick. Kamala isn't bad, but she's bad at campaigning. Or her hires were. Actually, both.

*Not a bit
 
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I'd still like to have someone from this administration explain in what capacity Guiliani is working for the US government when he isn't a government employee.
 

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SpitztheGreat

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They might as well just use "concerning" or "troubling" for all that matters.
I almost wonder if we're seeing some sort of psychological block from reporters, almost like a "no no, it can't really be this bad. I don't want to overstate things and get called out for being hyperbolic." Almost as if they're so close to the action that they can't see it clearly anymore. These people aren't dumb, they have talent. I know that we often espouse theories about their motives (sales, bias, strong-white daddy syndrome, etc) but I think there's something else going on. Trump is grabbing control of the Department of Justice in completely unprecedented ways and Congress is doing nothing to stop it, and yet the media almost seems too stunned to react.
 

Dahbomb

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I almost wonder if we're seeing some sort of psychological block from reporters, almost like a "no no, it can't really be this bad. I don't want to overstate things and get called out for being hyperbolic." Almost as if they're so close to the action that they can't see it clearly anymore. These people aren't dumb, they have talent. I know that we often espouse theories about their motives (sales, bias, strong-white daddy syndrome, etc) but I think there's something else going on. Trump is grabbing control of the Department of Justice in completely unprecedented ways and Congress is doing nothing to stop it, and yet the media almost seems too stunned to react.
It's normalizartion and tunnel vision. Usually there is something so big going on (like impeachment, coronavirus, Dem primary, DOJ prosecutors resigning, Trump Middle East blunders) that the horrible but not as big stuff gets kinda glossed over.

Kinda wonder what is the breaking point for the media and public. We have basically got to the point where Trump can murder someone on the White House floor and face 0 repercussions.
 

MizerMan

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I almost wonder if we're seeing some sort of psychological block from reporters, almost like a "no no, it can't really be this bad. I don't want to overstate things and get called out for being hyperbolic." Almost as if they're so close to the action that they can't see it clearly anymore. These people aren't dumb, they have talent. I know that we often espouse theories about their motives (sales, bias, strong-white daddy syndrome, etc) but I think there's something else going on. Trump is grabbing control of the Department of Justice in completely unprecedented ways and Congress is doing nothing to stop it, and yet the media almost seems too stunned to react.

They either want to keep their heads in the sand or just love the ratings so much.
 

platypotamus

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I think you're kidding yourself if you believe Trump will debate the nominee in the first place

EDIT: Classic reply without refreshing maneuever means this comment is probably hopelessly late
 

SpitztheGreat

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It's normalizartion and tunnel vision. Usually there is something so big going on (like impeachment, coronavirus, Dem primary, DOJ prosecutors resigning, Trump Middle East blunders) that the horrible but not as big stuff gets kinda glossed over.

Kinda wonder what is the breaking point for the media and public. We have basically got to the point where Trump can murder someone on the White House floor and face 0 repercussions.
I'll agree with the tunnel vision part, but not the normalization part. While there is normalization taking place, it is the symptom not the disease as far as I see it. I don't think most media outsets are trying to normalize what's happening, but their coverage is inadvertently normalizing it. I think it still goes back to what I referred to as a psychological block, they can't accept that things are falling apart, so they report on it using weak language, which in turn normalizes it.

The breaking point will be if Trump loses the popular vote by 5 million or more votes but ekes out an EC victory. If that happens I think there will be an explosion. I think blue states will start to make a lot of noise and start bucking federal authority.

I've said it before, but I don't think the next 10 years are very good for this country.
 

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File this one under "This didn't happen at all"



In radio interview w/ Geraldo Rivera, Trump claimed that people at the NSC applauded when Vindman was escorted off White House grounds. "Vindman was someone who when we took him out, the building applauded ... many people in the building started applauding."
 

Iolo

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