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Tfritz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Actually it might. Saying it's a goal but we'll take slow careful steps to get there makes sense. It leaves room for change and shows pragmatism.

actually it's Literal Murder, just as any universal health care plan that isn't identical to Bernie's, which itself is more robust and comprehensive than the vast majority of European UHC models.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
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Oct 25, 2017
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For some reason I've got some hope that Warren is going to somehow pull Iowa out of a hat. There's absolutely no evidence for this, and I'm 100%'wrong, but for some odd reason I'm optimistic at the moment.
That's probably the mock caucuses, but who knows if that translates into actual wins.
 

Doomguy Fieri

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Nov 3, 2017
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This... won't win you any new voters, Liz.

Ship has sailed on her being M4A in my first 100 days candidate. She's just a female Bernie with that message. If Warren wants to open up a new lane and peel off voters from other candidates she needs unique policy positions, and I don't think anyone else is currently doing M4A as a mid-term goal, immediate and substantial reforms to the current system as short term. May not be the best message but you go to war with the army you got.
 

plagiarize

Eating crackers
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Oct 25, 2017
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Ship has sailed on her being M4A in my first 100 days candidate. She's just a female Bernie with that message. If Warren wants to open up a new lane and peel off voters from other candidates she needs unique policy positions, and I don't think anyone else is currently doing M4A as a mid-term goal, immediate and substantial reforms to the current system as short term. May not be the best message but you go to war with the army you got.
I still think it's the best idea. I think we can more rapidly fix up the ACA than we can wholesale replace it, so fix it up (bring back the tax penalty and public option), and then work on something even better.
 

shadow_shogun

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@kylegriffin1
Nadler: "The moment President Trump said that John Bolton was not telling the truth ... he waived any executive privilege that might have existed. He cannot characterize a conversation, put it into the public domain, and then claim executive privilege against it."
15:30 - 29 Jan 2020
 

pigeon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Guys. I wonder if Bolton was the whistleblower.

Based on the efforts to leak the identity of the whistleblower I am pretty sure we have enough circumstantial evidence to know it was not Bolton. For one thing, the whistleblower is still working in government.

However, if you consider writing a tell-all book to be blowing the whistle, he did do that.
 

shadow_shogun

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Oct 25, 2017
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@jaketapper
Alan Dershowitz argues presidential quid pro quos aimed at reelection are not impeachablehttp://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/politics/dershowitz-quid-pro-quo/index.html …
@Mediaite
Schiff Responds to Dershowitz's 'Very Odd Argument': Gives Trump 'Carte Blanche' to Cheat in the Election Adam Schiff Responds to Alan Dershowitz's Impeachment Stance …
 

Teggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The hypotheticals of "what if Obama did this" really just exposes how terrible the Republicans are. It amounts to them saying, "aren't you just as corrupt as us?" To which the democrats just respond, "uh, no."
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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The hypotheticals of "what if Obama did this" really just exposes how terrible the Republicans are. It amounts to them saying, "aren't you just as corrupt as us?" To which the democrats just respond, "uh, no."
Graham is the living embodiment of this hypocrisy, as he can simultaneously say what Trump did was perfectly fine and, in the same statement, blast Biden for doing serious harm to the U.S. for doing exactly the kind of thing Trump is accused of!
 

ostrichKing

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There's no fucking way that only 8% of people wouldn't vote for a woman. I'd be amazed if only 8% of women wouldn't vote for a woman.
Well not THAT woman...will always be the excuse...
 

metalslimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, it's true for any of the candidates. Bernie included, despite his posturing.

It would certainly be interested at the convention because there is no chance the DNC will put a plank in the platform to eliminate private insurance. This is another thing that worries me about Sanders. He might not actually back down and then you would have candidates in local races all over the country running away from him on that issue.
 

Vimes

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Oct 25, 2017
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I had a friend who literally though that Clinton's win over Sanders in '16 was decided by the superdelegates and he had been thereby "cheated," so this seems likely, esp once the russians get involved.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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Dershowitz represents the fundamental belief of the Republican party - campaign finance violations, gerrymandering, blatant lies, voter suppression, and lame duck fuckery can't be wrong, because Democrats do not deserve representation.
 

Kirblar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dershowitz represents the fundamental belief of the Republican party - campaign finance violations, gerrymandering, blatant lies, voter suppression, and lame duck fuckery can't be wrong, because Democrats do not deserve representation.
"It's perfectly fine to use foreign interference to your advantage" is just saying the quiet part out loud re: Nixon/Reagan.
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'd like a Senate Dem to ask Trump's lawyers to explain what would stop a Dem POTUS from retaliating against McConnell by pressuring China to announce an investigation of his wife's family shipping company—so long as said POTUS claimed to be concerned about corruption.
 

AndyD

Mambo Number PS5
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Oct 27, 2017
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Dershowitz represents the fundamental belief of the Republican party - campaign finance violations, gerrymandering, blatant lies, voter suppression, and lame duck fuckery can't be wrong, because Democrats do not deserve representation.
Correct. It's just now being said out loud. Honestly it also opens the door for clear legislation when Dems are next in power.
 

Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
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If this was Nixon right now, and all of these current GOP Senators were in this "trial" against Nixon, they would say nothing he did was impeachable and all of them would acquit.
 

Owzers

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's okay to use aid to extort Ukraine because Obama didn't give them lethal aid.

good argument GOP.
 

Doomguy Fieri

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Nov 3, 2017
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I still think it's the best idea. I think we can more rapidly fix up the ACA than we can wholesale replace it, so fix it up (bring back the tax penalty and public option), and then work on something even better.
I agree, and I think someone who is adept at manipulating the regulatory state and the executive is going to have a more immediate impact than someone who is counting on a "political revolution" to strong arm or replace a bunch of senators.
 

LGHT_TRSN

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Oct 25, 2017
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The goalpost for what the GOP deem impeachable has been moved so many times it's at the bottom of the fucking ocean and as soon as a Dem wins the presidency they're gonna need to hire a good boatman to dredge it up.
 

Loan Wolf

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Nov 9, 2017
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I had a friend who literally though that Clinton's win over Sanders in '16 was decided by the superdelegates and he had been thereby "cheated," so this seems likely, esp once the russians get involved.

Not a fan of superdelegates considering that it can be used as a tool by the media to manipulate voters into making the "frontrunner" a self-fulfilling prophecy. The 2016 Democratic primary still leaves a sour taste in my mouth with the way the media was beating the drum for Hillary via superdelegates.
 

SpitztheGreat

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May 16, 2019
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This country is fucked. Senate Republicans, if they side with this argument, are basically agreeing that the Legislative Branch serves no purpose. If everything the President does is inherently to benefit the country, then there is no need for a legislative body to produce legislation or provide a check and balance. Republicans are effectively saying that their branch of the government may as well be dissolved.
 

Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
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The goalpost for what the GOP deem impeachable has been moved so many times it's at the bottom of the fucking ocean and as soon as a Dem wins the presidency they're gonna need to hire a good boatman to dredge it up.
I would not advise going there.

Trump Lifts Obama-Era Protections Trapping Gangthor The Malevolent In Tomb Deep Within Murky Depths Of Pacific Ocean

 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not a fan of superdelegates considering that it can be used as a tool by the media to manipulate voters into making the "frontrunner" a self-fulfilling prophecy. The 2016 Democratic primary still leaves a sour taste in my mouth with the way the media was beating the drum for Hillary via superdelegates.

Media is dumb at covering primaries, but the DNC was repeatedly telling media to NOT use superdelegates in their counts, because they hadn't done anything yet
 

AnotherNils

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Oct 27, 2017
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The smartest thing John Bolton could do for his book at this point is to sit down tonight with a journalist and verbally go on the record with the Ukraine story.

Considering the GOP closed ranks again this might be the only move left. If he cares.



Sen. Rand Paul has been informed he won't be allowed to ask his trial question related to the origins of the investigation, per source. Unclear exactly why at this point
Get fucked, Rand
 

Dahbomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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This country is fucked. Senate Republicans, if they side with this argument, are basically agreeing that the Legislative Branch serves no purpose. If everything the President does is inherently to benefit the country, then there is no need for a legislative body to produce legislation or provide a check and balance. Republicans are effectively saying that their branch of the government may as well be dissolved.
That's probably what they want. They probably want it so that the President can make the laws and then also appoint Judges to "interpret" the laws as he made them.

They want a King.
 

Vixdean

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really wish the Democrats would attack the whole javelin defense head on. Yeah, Trump provided them missiles, that they aren't allowed to use in the ongoing conflict and have to be stored away from the front. It's not like Putin is rolling tank columns towards Kiev, and if he did, a handful of missiles ain't stopping him anyway. It was a symbolic gesture in exchange for non-cooperation with Mueller.
 

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I really hope someone polls Americans again on whether they are willing to vote for a socialist. I'm still deeply worried about these results from 2015.

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the bad news for Sanders is that more people are willing to vote for a socialist than a democratic socialist (50% willing to vote for someone identifying as "socialist" versus 47% willing to vote for someone identifying as a "democratic socialist".

 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
The size of head tax needed would likely be so large as to be impossible to offset with the impact of the transfer.

Let's do a VAT instead.
Actually, from the looks of it, it would offset the impact of the transfer. Let's do neither, because it's more efficient to get that revenue through other means.
 
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