Now all that needs to happen is for AOC to just publish this ad, directly. And let's see what FB does.
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT9| I'm really glad I'm not on Twitter nearly enough to understand all the references
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Now all that needs to happen is for AOC to just publish this ad, directly. And let's see what FB does.
This post is to you what the "record player" gaf was to the Biden campaign.
You'll survive, but wow
If you use the smilie, you should go to 303030 and get a life. Awful smiile. Worse than poomoji used like affectionately.
I had no idea poliera was chock full of massive Trekkie nerds. Bet y'all speak Klingon when you get together to play Star Trek:The Gathering cards with other nerds dressed up in Enterprise uniform.
If you were growing up in the 80s and 90s, the was a 75% chance you saw some form of Trek media. There were three shows that were airing in the 90s at one time, I think.
I watched TNG when I was too young to understand sci-fi and that was only because I was fascinated by the Reading Rainbow guy being somewhere that wasnt Reading Rainbow.
Never did that. The closes thing I did do was the Star Trek: The Experience in Vegas in `99.
I'm not a Trekkie by any means, but DS9 and Voyager were my regular after-school appointment TV. I only recently started watching the HD-ified TOS, and it holds up much better than I expected. That crew is just so much more fun than those TNG dweebs.
The Undiscovered Country was such a perfect end-of-Cold War allegory.
The Undiscovered Country was such a perfect end-of-Cold War allegory.
Are the GOP more PAC heavy? Honestly, I can live with this. Beats the alternative at least.
Liberals into TV show about a moneyless future where everyone has equal rights and the ability to better themselves however see fit. Seems logical to me.
Beats that mindless Star Wars shit.
Did anybody even watch the video for the full response? I know it's like 90 seconds, but theres a bit more than the quoted
Yea I did.
He's not wrong... this is what some black families do tell their kids... He could have definitely handled it better.
That's a pretty intense question to be asked "what would you tell me if I were your son?"
At least he was honest about it. Sounds like things I've heard parents have told their kids who aren't white
I watched Biden and Bernie's full answers, and both were... okay. They both acknowledge, whether explicitly or implicitly, that black people face racial profiling and police brutality. You probably won't get better answers from two septuagenarian white men. Neither one will ever say, "FUCK THE PO-LICE."
For me, it's the use of the word respect. That is the idea that to not get shot in the head is predicated upon being "respectful enough." There's something about that that is INCREDIBLY gross to me. Again, I say that as a white person who simply will never have the type of interactions with police that a person of color will have. Like, I definitely understand where he was headed, but I think the "make sure their body camera is on" thing is just dumb.
Yeah, you also had TNG in heavy syndication through the early 2000s. Some people think it was the Trek over-saturation of the mid/late 90s that caused the franchise to go into the wilderness for 15-20 years. But what's funny is that for 80s and early 90s kids, Star Trek was the Sci-Fi of choice and Star Wars was considered a campy/low-tech 70s fantasy trilogy. But with the Star Wars prequels, you got a big resurgence of the Star Wars franchise in the 2000s as the Star Trek franchise was dying. And with Disney pumping out even newer Star Wars movies, you got 3 distinct generations of Star Wars fans, 60s/70s kids, late 90s/2000s kids, and kids from today. Whereas Star Trek has fans from 50/60s with the original series and 80s/90s kids, but it basically ends there. The Star Trek reboot movies didn't have much/any cultural impact and CBS isn't doing the franchise any favors by locking it behind a third rate streaming service.
I also think they've made the mistake of all the recent Star Trek shows focusing on the TOS era when the current median age of the population grew up watching TNG/DS9. They should be appealing to that demographic instead of appealing to the nostalgia of 50-60 year-olds.
As for Poli-Era full of Trekkie nerds, this is ultimately a gaming forum so the demographic already skews strong on the nerd spectrum. So the chances are very high the older people here would have watched the premier sci-fi series of the late 80s and 90s.
He's not, he's struggling with white people this time around.
The correct answer is both.
He's held onto a bigger percentage of his voters of color, mainly propped up by his Latinx numbers (because of age cohorts being a thing). But he's But he has only like a third of his overall 2016 support left.
Bernie's answer didn't sit right with me.
Yes, the instruction black people get as kids is to be very compliant and meek with police, because police are looking for any reason to do harm to you. That is very real.
But Bernie's answer seemed to be couched in respectability. The idea that we should be polite and respectful because that's what the police deserve, and that black people are brutalized by police because we don't give them those things. There was too much emphasis on how black people "should behave" and no real acknowledgment that black people who do behave "properly" are still brutalized and killed by cops.
Yes, the instruction black people get as kids is to be very compliant and meek with police, because police are looking for any reason to do harm to you. That is very real.
But Bernie's answer seemed to be couched in respectability. The idea that we should be polite and respectful because that's what the police deserve, and that black people are brutalized by police because we don't give them those things. There was too much emphasis on how black people "should behave" and no real acknowledgment that black people who do behave "properly" are still brutalized and killed by cops.
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This.
Like, I am white as fuck, so maybe I am off base here. But the idea that the police are somehow OWED respect by virtue of their position or else? Fuck that. I reads like victim blaming. And the body camera thing is dumb. I cannot fathom a world in which a cop who turned off their camera is going to be less likely to shoot someone if you ask if their camera is on.
The way I read it by him saying "they'll shoot you in the BACK of the head" and "we need to hold them accountable" was him saying these things. Respect the situation of a violent person with a gun just looking for a reason to kill you being very dangerous, not respect the nice police officer who will shoot you in the back of the head because you probably deserved it.
I suppose he could have been a bit more obvious, but that all seemed to be in the subtext of what he said.
They both sound like privileged white men - "sensitivity training," "get his badge numbah," [speak to his manager] - because they are. You're not going to get a better answer out of either. At least they're cognizant of the issue and didn't dismiss it. Were their answers stellar? No, but the old dogs aren't going to learn to hunt any better.
Respect was the wrong word to use. It implies that black people don't already do that as well.
But it is something black people are taught once they are able to start driving, to listen, and follow orders otherwise you might likely to be shot.
Here's where I'll acknowledge my own potential bias: I'll accept that interpretation as implicit if it's coming from another black person.
If you're an old white man? No. You need to spell out to me in plain language that you get it. Because, frankly, old white men have not earned the benefit of the doubt here.
Hillary knew this. God, her campaign was like fucking manna from heaven compared to the jokes this year.
I keep saying, Sondland will "clarify" himself into complete agreement with Amb. Taylor when this is all over with. He ain't giving up his cushy life to protect Trump
Sondland told House committees that the president told him: "There's no quid pro quo, but Zelensky's got to get out there and do the right thing." He understood that to mean announce investigations into Burisma and election interference.
I think the respect line wouldn't have been so bad on its own, but when he followed that up with "so you don't get shot in the back of the head" it does come off as ehh...
It really did sort of come off like him saying if you "respect" the police you'll survive, which isn't true at all as we've seen, and in a way victim blaming those who have been shot for not respecting the cops.
I do think he was trying to acknowledge the situation black people in America face with that line, but he ended up just coming off worse.
It really did sort of come off like him saying if you "respect" the police you'll survive, which isn't true at all as we've seen, and in a way victim blaming those who have been shot for not respecting the cops.
I do think he was trying to acknowledge the situation black people in America face with that line, but he ended up just coming off worse.
I fear for Hillary's liver, sis.
The amount of HARD DRINKING I would be doing if I were her this year.
That's fair.
It would help a bit if things weren't pulled out of their full context constantly, but that's political media
Pretty much this, I wouldn't call myself a trekkie by any stretch (I think putting Kirk dead last is an automatic disqualification) but I watched TNG and DS9 with my dad and brothers when I was a kid (along with stuff like Quantum Leap, Sea Quest and X-Files) and it's been syndicated so much you can find it pretty much anywhere any time (for example, I was stuck in a hotel earlier this week and watched a few episodes of TNG on BBC America). Never been to any conventions, played any games, read any novels or comics... the only one I own is a DVD of First Contact.
I will say though, it's a pretty comforting, mostly-positive show. When I get sick I tend to camp out on the couch and binge watch stuff I can half pay attention to, the last time I had the flu I went through most of TNG.
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Growing up overseas, I missed the two most iconic American creations: Star Trek and Star Wars. I never paid attention them. I however caught up on my Star Wars because there's like 6 movies only (we collectively as a society decided the prequels never happened). Star Trek however, I never knew where to begin. I actually did watch the 09 reboot and kinda liked it. Always knew that Trek's popularity was largely in part due to Kirk and Spock's chemistry as well. But never had an idea on where to begin if I wanted to get fully versed. Anyways, thanks for sharing!
What Bernie said to that person is the same thing my father said to me and is similar to what to what I would tell my children.
Your first action should always to be cooperative and respectful. Respectful in the sense that your refer to the policeman as "officer" and "sir/madam". I say the same thing if they are a teacher or a principle, you address them as sir or madam until they tell you it's ok to use their last name (and then it's Mr. Last Name only).
That's the default response no matter who you are dealing with and especially an officer. Respectful doesn't mean salute them or sing their praises, it's about being professional and courteous. Respectful also doesn't mean being meek and submissive.
That said Bernie answered that question in the direct and abrasive manner like he does with most of his responses. You need more tact than that to explain to a child.
Your first action should always to be cooperative and respectful. Respectful in the sense that your refer to the policeman as "officer" and "sir/madam". I say the same thing if they are a teacher or a principle, you address them as sir or madam until they tell you it's ok to use their last name (and then it's Mr. Last Name only).
That's the default response no matter who you are dealing with and especially an officer. Respectful doesn't mean salute them or sing their praises, it's about being professional and courteous. Respectful also doesn't mean being meek and submissive.
That said Bernie answered that question in the direct and abrasive manner like he does with most of his responses. You need more tact than that to explain to a child.
Yeah this was the awkward part. Otherwise I'm not sure what other answer he's supposed to give? Would it be okay to add something like a "same as everyone else" to it? Because uh yeah everyone should be doing that.
So as I said in the other thread, although my advice would be more specific, like keep your hands visible, it would not really be that different. Bernie's use of the word respect here is just one of those stumbles he's known for. If he had said "careful" or something about deescalation I doubt anybody could find something to criticize.
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