They end up learning those words no matter how hard you may try to prevent it! But I've always thought that if they learn to use those words in the appropriate context and situation, then it's fine.
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT9| I'm really glad I'm not on Twitter nearly enough to understand all the references
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You do realize they're still making Star Trek as of 2019, yes?
Getting a million people into one place to protest is not an easy thing, but the fact the Chilean people did it is impressive and should be congratulated for such an action.
I think it's actually good parenting to teach your kids that open racists, sexists, homophobes, etc., don't deserve basic respect and should be insulted and belittled for their beliefs if they choose to share those beliefs.
Short Answer: Start with Next Generation, move to Deep Space Nine. Watch First Contact. If you're still hungry for more, watch the other "Next Generation" Movies, test your tolerance for TOS or Voyager, and watch the "Original Series" movies if you want. The reboot stuff is garbage, ignore it.
Long Answer: Same advice above, but what really it boils down to is how much tolerance you have to watch old special effects or outdated concepts of the future, hammy acting and 60's / 90's cultural norms / morals, and most importantly if you're okay watching a lot of "okay" episodes with a handful of really stellar ones and a few duds mixed in.
This is almost impossible to answer because Star Trek is more than 50 years of TV shows and movies and not all of them build on each other in the way something like Star Wars has a "main saga" that maintains a relatively consistent tone and plot line throughout. It's also not as focused on the theme as you might think; a lot of time, Star Trek feels like it's a dramatic series that also happens to occur in outer space. There are plenty of episodes that qualify as "sci-fi", maybe a few that count as "hard sci-fi" even, but the majority of them are just "hey, what if we did an episode about racism but they're green instead of black"-type conceits. Roddenberry described them as "morality plays in space" and that's true for a lot of the Original Series ("TOS") and The Next Generation ("TNG"), along with early seasons of Deep Space Nine ("DS9").
(I will not speak of Voyager, as I've never been able to finish it. It puts me to sleep every single time I try. I also have not seen all of Enterprise or any of Discovery.)
There's also your tolerance for dated effects and concepts. The easiest way to approach Star Trek is the "purist route", in the order they were released. But that means sitting through the Original Series ("TOS") which has a lot of cruddy effects, hammy acting and 60s moral values (including some super questionable uniform choices for the women), and you may lose interest before you get to the "good stuff" in the later series. There are genuinely great episodes floating in a sea of campy battles between a shirtless Shatner and a guy in a rubber suit. On top of all of that, you also have to deal with Star Trek being transmitted via pop culture osmosis; it's been referenced so often over the last half century that you may not realize just how much of it you're already familiar with.
My advice is to skip the Original Series and go straight to Next Generation. The first two seasons are fair-to-middling with a few standouts, but things vastly improve in Season 3 when the series gets a proper villain, the writers get more comfortable writing their characters and the cast becomes more comfortable in their roles. I would recommend skipping a few episodes outright though; "Code of Honor" (S1E3 - It's super racist), "Justice" (S1E8 - It's super cringy), "The Child" (S2E1 - it's super rape-y and gross), "Shades of Grey" (S2E22 - It's a fucking clip show), "Night Terrors" (S4E17 - It's boring as shit), and "Sub Rosa" (S7E14 - it's just completely awful). Those are the worst of the worst, I feel, though that's not to say everything else is 100% amazing... these are the ones that are just outright offensively bad.
Alternatively, you could jump right into Deep Space Nine as requires little to no advanced viewing; it references some events from TNG's third season, but it's not important you know more than what's shown. Two characters make the jump from TNG to DS9, but you should be able to figure things out without knowing them already. DS9 is much more serial in nature, with long story and character arcs than any of the earlier series, but these really don't start until the series' second season. Characters who appear to be comic relief or secondary characters get a chance to grow and actually end up fantastic by the end of the series, some of the best of Trek, actually.
As far as movies go, some of them are snooze fests (The Motion Picture, Insurrection, etc.). First Contact, Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country are the best of the bunch. A lot of people like The Voyage Home (aka "The one with the whales") too, so you might as well throw Star Trek III in there to complete that arc. The rest are... fair to middling, but none are outright awful (though some, like the Motion Picture, are criminally boring). Skip the reboot series entirely, the first is watchable but the other two are horrible.
And like I said, Voyager always puts me to sleep and I'm not giving CBS money for Discovery (I'll watch it, maybe, when the Picard series comes out).
(I will not speak of Voyager, as I've never been able to finish it. It puts me to sleep every single time I try. I also have not seen all of Enterprise or any of Discovery.)
There's also your tolerance for dated effects and concepts. The easiest way to approach Star Trek is the "purist route", in the order they were released. But that means sitting through the Original Series ("TOS") which has a lot of cruddy effects, hammy acting and 60s moral values (including some super questionable uniform choices for the women), and you may lose interest before you get to the "good stuff" in the later series. There are genuinely great episodes floating in a sea of campy battles between a shirtless Shatner and a guy in a rubber suit. On top of all of that, you also have to deal with Star Trek being transmitted via pop culture osmosis; it's been referenced so often over the last half century that you may not realize just how much of it you're already familiar with.
My advice is to skip the Original Series and go straight to Next Generation. The first two seasons are fair-to-middling with a few standouts, but things vastly improve in Season 3 when the series gets a proper villain, the writers get more comfortable writing their characters and the cast becomes more comfortable in their roles. I would recommend skipping a few episodes outright though; "Code of Honor" (S1E3 - It's super racist), "Justice" (S1E8 - It's super cringy), "The Child" (S2E1 - it's super rape-y and gross), "Shades of Grey" (S2E22 - It's a fucking clip show), "Night Terrors" (S4E17 - It's boring as shit), and "Sub Rosa" (S7E14 - it's just completely awful). Those are the worst of the worst, I feel, though that's not to say everything else is 100% amazing... these are the ones that are just outright offensively bad.
Alternatively, you could jump right into Deep Space Nine as requires little to no advanced viewing; it references some events from TNG's third season, but it's not important you know more than what's shown. Two characters make the jump from TNG to DS9, but you should be able to figure things out without knowing them already. DS9 is much more serial in nature, with long story and character arcs than any of the earlier series, but these really don't start until the series' second season. Characters who appear to be comic relief or secondary characters get a chance to grow and actually end up fantastic by the end of the series, some of the best of Trek, actually.
As far as movies go, some of them are snooze fests (The Motion Picture, Insurrection, etc.). First Contact, Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country are the best of the bunch. A lot of people like The Voyage Home (aka "The one with the whales") too, so you might as well throw Star Trek III in there to complete that arc. The rest are... fair to middling, but none are outright awful (though some, like the Motion Picture, are criminally boring). Skip the reboot series entirely, the first is watchable but the other two are horrible.
And like I said, Voyager always puts me to sleep and I'm not giving CBS money for Discovery (I'll watch it, maybe, when the Picard series comes out).
Sorry for the off-topic post, thus the Spoiler Tag.
Sisko>Picard>Janeway>Archer>Kirk
Sisko was a wartime leader who wrestled with what that meant and had some of the best moments of all time. Picard was the portrait of the perfect Starfleet captain. Janeway and Archer were solid captains in very mixed series. Janeway in particular was kind of robbed by how bad Voyager was for much of its run. Archer stepped up in S3/S4, but the other characters were much cooler.
I will not be taking questions on the position of Kirk, the worst captain.
Doing Young Biden kinda dirty here.
Sisko was a wartime leader who wrestled with what that meant and had some of the best moments of all time. Picard was the portrait of the perfect Starfleet captain. Janeway and Archer were solid captains in very mixed series. Janeway in particular was kind of robbed by how bad Voyager was for much of its run. Archer stepped up in S3/S4, but the other characters were much cooler.
I will not be taking questions on the position of Kirk, the worst captain.
Doing Young Biden kinda dirty here.
One of the best DS9 episodes too. In The Pale Moonlight - S6E19This one
As long as he teaches his kids how to use the word "establishment" properly.
And shame on Corey Booker for using his presence to legitimize this.
I'd say shame on Sanders...but I don't expect better from him.
Shane Goldmacher @ShaneGoldmacherThere was a Buttigieg fundraiser this week was hosted by Bradley Tusk, ex-Bloomberg campaign manager. (Spotted: Jon Corzine, ex-Gov and Goldman exec)
"The feeling in the room," Tusk said, "was that Biden has already lost."https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/us/politics/joe-biden-campaign-fundraising.html …
"The feeling in the room," Tusk said, "was that Biden has already lost."https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/us/politics/joe-biden-campaign-fundraising.html …
1:05 PM - Oct 26, 2019
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Rebecca Ballhaus @rebeccaballhausJohn Kelly says he warned Trump before he left: "Whatever you do, don't hire a 'yes man,' someone who won't tell you the truth — don't do that. Because if you do, I believe you will be impeached." https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/i-feel-bad-that-i-left-john-kelly-warned-trump-he-would-be-impeached …
1:16 PM - Oct 26, 2019
Jake Tapper @jaketapperWherein John Kelly suggests that Mick Mulvaney is a "yes" man https://twitter.com/tpcarney/status/1188141310533918725 …
1:17 PM - Oct 26, 2019
Susan Hennessey @Susan_HennesseyKelly says he would have hung up the phone on the Zelensky call. But he sat in an Oval Office meeting in which Trump attempted to obstruct justice by trying to get Don McGahn to create a false internal record, which McGahn outright refused, but Kelly didn't object. https://twitter.com/TPCarney/status/1188142061121343488 …
1:25 PM - Oct 26, 2019
Once they know who it is, they can start attacking the person, and implying that the charges are false because the whistleblower isn't perfect.
Also consider the source. Buttigieg's campaign has a vested interest in convincing people Biden will lose.
They're seeing the same bad Bernie and Biden crosstabs we are that indicate both can't build a winning coalition.
I really really don't understand the mindset of a donor who is shying of away from Biden in favor of Butt. Biden actually has a path to victory on the national level. Butt has literally none outside of Iowa. It makes no sense to dump money into him as the great white hope for moderates.
makes me extremely nervous. That energy went badly wrong in 2016 and the gop and its foreign pals are going to triple down on that shit this time too. Tulsi, Bernie, Biden, Buttigeneric, Socialist Dystopia, Klobberchar, Police State, YangGang, hell even Hillary is back. Like they're setting up a King of Fighters melee with vastly less style.
They know they can butter more bread with meltdown margarine than chill butter.
If you're serious about Bernie and his policies and not emotionally invested in your "team" then don't let yourself get drawn into this shit. Just get Bernie elected and have a backup candidate.
if you're all or nothing at this point then recalibrate for pragmatism and do what almost every candidate did and sign the pledge to support the D in 2020.
and pray it's not Biden. But even then. I won't even hold my nose.
except tulsi. She's obviously the villain. Only real twist is that she pulled her rubber mask off at the start.
the existential danger of 2020 is no fucking joke. The Supreme Court, the constitution, the justice department, American supremacy, the global economy, nato, the environment and your basic quality of life and the future for your kids rest on this election.
you might be pissed about inertia and institutionalism but you have one power to try and fix it. Don't you dare fuckin waste it on petty shit and don't get suckered into infighting.
I also hope that Barr's attempt to turn the cia and fbi on each other falls apart. Somebody inside needs to expose Barr publicly before he resculpts intelligence into a purely political group.
LOL, so Trump is a child who will commit crimes if no one tells him "no". What a shocking revelation.
When people won't stop bumping the "EVIL MEDIA CONSPIRACY IS KEEPING BERNIE FROM WINNING" thread, it's already being done.
hey uh there's literally an entire staff post telling people to quit posting this shit
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So I guess. The sci-fi genre doesn't immediately attract me. I do want to see the JJ Abrams films, but the first film never seems so be on Netflix anymore. It always the just second or third.
USS Callister is my favorite Black Mirror. Does that count for anything?
Also, you all would be mad if y'all knew what else I haven't seen lol. Not even really because I DON'T want see them, mind you.
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Yeah, like because of Cumming's funeral. The postoned testomony on Thrusday and Friday.
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