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US PoliEra 2019 |OT9| I'm really glad I'm not on Twitter nearly enough to understand all the references
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Did you both wander onto the wrong site by accident
This is where I'm at as well and it's weird because I was a Hillary supporter in 2016.
I think Hillary running would be a massively bad idea
That being said my preference goes:
1) Warren
2) Sanders
3) Clinton jumping in last second for one last ride
4) Literally anyone else
"Warren and Bernie are the only good ones" has been a consistently accurate take since january 2019
Mississippi is just clinging to its proud tradition of being the worst/last state most of the time.
we all know what game you're tryna play, bub...
what game is he tryna play
It's true, but the light is always open for when people want to come around to it.
hydro flask?
Hahaha* holy shit what is Pete doing.
*Nervous, horrified laughter, not amused laughter.
We really are fucked in the long term if we don't get Sanders or Warren, aren't we?
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I mean, the swastika is also a Hindu symbol but I wouldn't necesarily give someone the benefit of the doubt for having that tat either.
Pete already told the world who he was with his Black Cop wiretap scandal.
Butti is doing everything in his power to become relevant and influential on a national scale, principles be damned.
It dries your skin.
You want your skin to be moist, supple, and youthful.
Pete turned to the center very hard over the past month knowing Biden is no longer the frontrunner.
It's crazy to me, frankly, to try to draw conclusions about someone's character based on a right-wing tabloid's description of a blurred photo of a tattoo from revenge porn leaked by an enemy of the person.
She has denied that it is an Iron Cross. I, to put it bluntly, haven't seen the photos, and wouldn't want to. I'm not really sure how you propose to advance this case.
Most soaps do too good of a job of breaking down oils, leading to overly dry skin. Overly dry skin can lead to a whole host of other problems, including cracking and acne. (Leona Lewis has a good FAQ in her Skin Care OT.)
Booker has a lot of entanglements with the financial industry. There's a relatively famous clip of him speaking out in support of Bain Capital in 2012. Policy-wise he isn't as far to the left as Warren or Sanders. I think that's mostly it.
My guess something about trump being sleeping with porn stars while his wife is at home with their newborn.
there's some stuff about being too cozy with drug companies, but probably mostly he just isn't polling like a serious contender.
Kamala is also a good one. I'd actually say that, policy-wise, her's has probably been the most consistent and bullshit-less. She puts out detailed plans, and takes the heat while formerly progressive champions slowly absorb them months later.
Throw Castro in there too.
Throw Castro in there too.
My thoughts 100%.
I never donated to Pete, but I was an early supporter/admirer. This forum tends to spit at whoever isn't the current Progressive-Darling, but I didn't have much animosity for Booty even when I shifted to Team Kamala/Beto.
But like you, watching that last debate was like getting a bucket of ice cold water thrown in my face. He came off really petty and unlikable and it made me open my eyes to the hard turn he's made to the center. I'd argue, he's verging on almost going center-right. Did he really name Justice Kennedy as judges he wants??? Also his plan to reform the Supreme Court was one of the major things that really got me excited about him because I thought it was a great idea and good discussion to have, so it's really disappointing that he's essentially disavowing the plan.
All candidates modulate their positions to a degree (if they care about winning), but Booty has gone from a young forward-leaning progressive to a Joe Manchin blue-dog in a span of 6 months. As you said, it's clear he doesn't really stand for anything and can be easily swayed by his high-dollar donor class. It's a shame because he really is a great communicator and he could be a great messenger for progressive issues, but if he can turn on a dime like this then you just never know where his interests will be 6 months from now and could use his great communication skills to trash progressive issues (this is already happening).
I'm officially turning in my Booty card.
...but doesn't Pete's heel turn sort of prove all the bitch eating crackers people right?
I mean, I KNOW I saw his ass for what he was and openly said so months ago. Once again for the people in the back: black people are this country's canary in the coal mine. Shit stopped smelling right with Pete the second the black folk in his own damn city started reading his ass for filth.
I mean, I KNOW I saw his ass for what he was and openly said so months ago. Once again for the people in the back: black people are this country's canary in the coal mine. Shit stopped smelling right with Pete the second the black folk in his own damn city started reading his ass for filth.
Booker (and Beto, and probably even Castro for that matter... hell, even Harris with a bit more experience) would be perfectly acceptable nominee material in most cycles. Rules have changed, though, between the huge field, the notion of Trump shattering previous norms, and raw charisma level mattering a ton more than it used to in the information age.
I'd fucking love to vote for Hillary again. It'd be a bad idea for her to enter at this point, though. Would vote for Michelle Obama in an instant.
He called Obama attacking Mitt Romney for his financial industry ties "disgusting", smack dab in the heat of the election
He voted against cheaper drugs
i dislike the "he needs more experience" line
Hes trash. We already know that hes a puppet of his donors, do we think that being around a decade in politics will somehow make him less corrupt?
Hes trash. We already know that hes a puppet of his donors, do we think that being around a decade in politics will somehow make him less corrupt?
The thing I don't get is I fully believe he could've done that without sacrificing anything he's claimed to have stood for in the past, especially with proper media positioning. But he really is showing himself to be untrustworthy, really, and I have to question if he'll actually win anyone over with this, especially with people in this thread abandoning his camp....
As someone in the 'only Sanders and maybe Warren will do' crowd: I feel like he's shown his ass a number of times in regards to upholding the current capitalist structures- particularly in regards to healthcare - instead of either reforming them or tearing them down. See his criticism of Obama going after Romney, for instance. This is problematic given the sheer influence lobbyists hold over politics and could, potentially, over him. Based on his stated policies thus far and how, unlike Pete, he hasn't backtracked iirc, I will say I probably prefer him or Castro to any of the other candidates besides Sanders and Warren but it's a very distant third between the two of them.
I could very easily see Warren picking him as VP if he drops out sooner than later, to be honest. I'm unsure about Sanders, I have a feeling he'd go with someone more left than Beto.
This. He's not a "pantomime villain", but time isn't going to fix him. He is who is he is, and especially after this, I just don't like him as a representative for the needs of the American people, and hope I'm not going to have to vote for him come November 2020.
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Yeah I gotta admit, the bitch crackers people were right on that one. But even the sun shines on a dog's ass some days...
I lend more props to black people in his own city who weren't buying his crocodile tears. I know I should have took them more seriously. The near 0% black support he was getting early on definitely was a canary in the coal mine.
I hope Katie Hill gets all the money and assets in the divorce and hubby goes to jail.
I am ok with an ethics investigation and she shouldn't be fucking the staff, but man is her husband pure fucking scum.
It's a damn shame Booty turned out to be a fraud. First major out candidate and he turns out to be shit.
I am ok with an ethics investigation and she shouldn't be fucking the staff, but man is her husband pure fucking scum.
Oh man, you were the first Booty stan here too.
It's a damn shame Booty turned out to be a fraud. First major out candidate and he turns out to be shit.
The wiretapping thing (which was legit complicated) wasn't really an issue so much as the "you haven't really done anything with the force diversity makeup" thing where he just kinda ignored that campaign promise while in office- there were roadblocks on that front but it doesn't look like he even really made an actual attempt at reform there.
no socialist is running in this race...
...unless you are talking about the uruguayan elections happening this sunday! Going to be interesting if the uruguayan leftists can pull off their fourth consecutive win
Fuckers just have to keep putting their hand back in the cookie jar, huh?
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