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US PoliEra 2019 |OT9| I'm really glad I'm not on Twitter nearly enough to understand all the references
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As long as she doesnt run as an independent I dont care what she does
But Clinton is on the money and has clearly been unfairly maligned for as long as I can remember
Meghan McCain @MeghanMcCain
.@TulsiGabbard doesn't treat people who disagree with her like deplorables, is a combat veteran who enlisted after 9/11, and values free speech and religious freedom. I am baffled by how intensely threatened so many are by her voice in the race. She does it all on her own terms. https://twitter.com/kthomasdc/status/1185189428962234374 …
10:41 AM - Oct 18, 2019
.@TulsiGabbard doesn't treat people who disagree with her like deplorables, is a combat veteran who enlisted after 9/11, and values free speech and religious freedom. I am baffled by how intensely threatened so many are by her voice in the race. She does it all on her own terms. https://twitter.com/kthomasdc/status/1185189428962234374 …
10:41 AM - Oct 18, 2019
Tulsi is a surfer, so when she carpetbags, it'll have to be somewhere with a beach. I guess she'll be competing against Young Kim to be the first American to lose two elections in a row.
WaPo: Growing number of Republicans struggle to defend Trump on G-7 choice, Ukraine and Syria
A growing number of congressional Republicans expressed exasperation Friday over what they view as President Trump's indefensible behavior, a sign that the president's stranglehold on his party is starting to weaken as Congress hurtles toward a historic impeachment vote.
In interviews with more than 20 GOP lawmakers and congressional aides in the past 48 hours, many said they were repulsed by Trump's decision to host an international summit at his own resort and incensed by acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney's admission — later withdrawn — that U.S. aid to Ukraine was withheld for political reasons. Others expressed anger over the president's abandonment of Kurdish allies in Syria.
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Meanwhile, several GOP lawmakers have reached out to White House officials to urge Trump to reconsider his Doral decision, which they worry smacks of corruption, according to GOP officials familiar with the conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly. At the very least, they're pressing Trump to publicly commit to hosting the international leaders free, to avoid any appearance that he's using his office to enrich himself.
The problem is that its not about media coverage, its about materially inconveniencing power. I live in Chicago. We protest a fair amount actually, with varying sizes. But no-one who we're protesting against is really actually forced to engage with those protests at a distance closer than "reports say..."
(on the national level at least, on the local level teacher's strikes and protests are driving school funding negotiations as we speak)
Yeah the Syria pullout is way worse than people have realized yet because doing something so evil is unthinkable
I'd love to ship Trump to the Hague.
That'd be a good start to the U.S. making some form of amends for being racist and shitty enough to vote for Trump in the first place.
That'd be a good start to the U.S. making some form of amends for being racist and shitty enough to vote for Trump in the first place.
Shit, we need to start taking the international criminal court more seriously generally. Trump would be a good place to start.
Last time I saw... Still saying black people aren't ready for a revolution.
But he had a great interview with Sanders p.h.
Add "Send the Trump administration to the Hague" to the "When this shit is all over" to-do list.
You are correct, but this country never will because BUT MUH SOVEREIGNTY and deluded American exceptionalism will always win the day.
There do is a solid case to bundle him with GWB, and perhaps Cheney.
lol, talk about white washing shit.
Now, 99% of the time Jacobin is a joke, but this is actually a decent article regarding Tulsi
1) She fucking met with Assad while he was gassing his own people. She keeps parroting Russian/Syrian talking points.
2) Supports gay rights? She's been constantly supporting and openly been anti-LGBT for years. And this isn't "I support Civil Union but not Marriage" 90's "anti-LGBT" that people love to throw around, this is straight up bigotry. She keeps saying she's changed (but has been on record of not actually having changed personal views, see below), but there is nothing indicating she has actually changed her mind outside of the fact that being an open bigot in the Democratic party, which she is only a member of because Hawaii's GOP party is DOA, is politically suicide.
Early in her career, Gabbard took after her father. She opposed abortion and supported a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. After Honolulu Magazine emailed her father to ask about his former ties to a conservative Hare Krishna splinter group for a 2004 profile, it was Gabbard who replied angrily, accusing the magazine of "acting as a conduit for The Honolulu Weekly and other homosexual extremist supporters of Ed Case [her father's opponent]."
The same year, she used her platform as a state representative to testify against civil unions, calling the claim that they were different from same-sex marriage "dishonest, cowardly, and extremely disrespectful to the people of Hawaii," who had voted in favor of Constitutional Amendment 2 in 1998, empowering the legislature to withhold marriage from same-sex couples.
"As Democrats, we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," she said at the time.
3) She's only well known because she backed Sanders, and in 2016 Sanders didn't have many allies in the Democratic party because, shockingly, when you spend your entire campaign calling the party your running for corrupt who are trying to sabotage your campaign you don't get that many friends. So when you don't have many friends, you take the ones you can get.
4) The alt-right fucking loves her for obvious reasons from the examples I stated above with her very right wing social conservatism and Islamophobia. She has advertisements on fucking Breitbart, goes on Fox News all the time to talk to her friend, Tucker white supremacist Carlson
Yet the starry-eyed anointment of Gabbard has obscured the more unsavory aspects of her politics — so unsavory, in fact, that White House adviser Steve Bannon has reportedly spoken well of her. From her vigorous opposition to the Iran nuclear deal to her obsession with "radical Islam" to her love for the far-right Indian leader Narendra Modi, Gabbard is far from the progressive hero many assume her to be.
And if you think her views have "changed" and she has done some type of "progressive" progress? She admitted in an interview that her personal views have not changed.
Fittingly for her narrative, though, the explanation for her changed ideology feints us back onto familiar territory — the military. It was, she says, the days in the Middle East that taught her the dangers of a theocratic government "imposing its will" on the people. (She tells me that, no, her personal views haven't changed, but she doesn't figure it's her job to do as the Iraqis did and force her own beliefs on others.)
5) She's not actually anti-interventionist. Her concern for "expansion" of the US armed forces into places like Syria/Iraq are out of concern for US soldiers, her compassion stops there. She's on record for being against the Iran deal (hmmmm I wonder why)
Another reason Gabbard started receiving applause from the Right was her very public skepticism of the Iran deal.
The Obama administration may have continued much of the Bush approach to the "war on terror," but it at least recognized the value of diplomacy. Not Gabbard, however, who told Fox News she was "cynical" toward the pact, and agreed with host Greta van Susteren that it was akin to Neville Chamberlain's infamous Munich agreement with Hitler in 1938.
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But Gabbard is less discerning when autocrats aren't motivated by "radical Islam." In November 2015, she traveled to Egypt as part of a congressional delegation and met Egyptian dictator Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, part of an effort to strengthen US-Egypt relations. Sisi may be a blood-soaked tyrant who's killed hundreds of Egyptians and imprisoned many thousands more, but as Gabbard made clear at the time, he's tough where it counts.
"President el-Sisi has shown great courage and leadership in taking on this extreme Islamist ideology, while also fighting against ISIS militarily to keep them from gaining a foothold in Egypt," Gabbard said, urging US political leaders to "recognize President el-Sisi and his leadership" and "stand with him in this fight against . . . Islamic extremists." Some of the Sisi government's fantastic accomplishments in this fight include killing a group of Mexican tourists and quite possibly torturing and murdering an Italian PhD student.
Huh, strange that she keeps meeting with fucking dictators who are murdering their own people when it's about "Islamist Extremism"
Not to mention her love of Modi
But most appalling was his role in the 2002 anti-Muslim riots in the western state of Gujarat, which left one thousand people dead, nearly eight hundred of whom were Muslims. Modi was the state's chief minister at the time and has long been accused of allowing the riots to happen, with a former senior police officer testifying in 2011 that Modi said the night before the riots that Muslims needed to be taught a lesson.
Despite all of this, Gabbard has been one of Modi's most prominent boosters in the US. "He is a leader whose example and dedication to the people he serves should be an inspiration to elected officials everywhere," she said of Modi in 2014.
When a congressional panel was held in April 2014 on "the plight of religious minorities in India," with witnesses testifying about the mistreatment of Muslims, Gabbard said she didn't "believe the time of this hearing is a coincidence" and that it aimed to "influence the outcome of India's national elections." Gabbard voted against House Resolution 417, which criticized India's record on religious violence and called for specific measures to guarantee religious freedom in the country, explaining that its passage wouldn't help US-India relations. Yet two years later, Gabbard introduced a similar resolution that covered neighboring Muslim-majority Bangladesh, saying she was "particularly concerned over issues of religious freedom, and specifically, attacks against minority Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, and others" in the country.
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It's honestly in our best interests at this point. The US benefits a lot from soft power, and developing a community of, at least on paper, like-minded cultural allies is going to be very important now that we're moving back into a Great Powers era. Establishing the lines on things like "do we acknowledge war crimes" or "genocide bad, y/n?" is really, really important now, and not just for the reasons it always was. Realpolitik demands it!
I'd be down.
And it's clear she only backed Bernie because she wanted to cause more chaos—esp with this DNC is rigged bullshit.
Sanders, if he has a spine, she tell her to fuck off at this point
She's been right about everything which is why it's infuriating for CNN to immediately go into "she's pushing conspiracy theories" bs
I'm telling you this Doral thing is a bridge too far for many of them. It's straight up illegal to award yourself a government contract and many people have gone to prison for doing that very thing.
The fact that they won't let anyone see the bids means they didn't even bother. Oh and Jr saying he knows Doral was the lowest quote means he's lying (there were no other bids) or that he saw the other bids (also illegal).
That Meghan McCain quote is what people thought about Trump, even some older former natsec and diplomatic men who became cable contributors, until I guess it got too obvious, even for them.
It's kind of sad that this is The Thing for many people, but I'll take it.
To give more credance to the fact that this is not necessarily just some conspiracy theory by Hillary. Referring to someone as an asset on behalf of another does not necessarily mean 'spy' you can be an asset or disruptor without even realizing you are one... with that in mind tulsi is literally an asset for Russia.
Kids in cages, inciting white terrorism, quid pro quo with Ukraine, the Mueller report, on and on... but Doral is the thing that makes them say "wow this guy is just too much". Republicans are so weird.
I know, but this is a very clear crime. There's no wiggle room in it. There's no "he said, she said". There's no underlings he can point to and say, "They did it. Not me."
There's just the president literally putting taxpayer money in his pocket and daring them to stop him. And you know he's going to use taxpayer money to renovate his bedbug palace too.
My husband was on the "I want to get all the facts before I decide if it's impeachable" fence about Ukraine. He came home the other day after the Doral announcement and said, "He's gotta go." He was mad as hell about it.
So yeah, I'll take it too.
Edit: This isn't just a breach of the emoluments clause. This is a federal crime.
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Cable news breakfast nook noting that in the whole response Gabbard never denied being a Russian asset, heh.
I don't know what's more desperate at this point.
Tulsi. Just everything about her.
OR, the people whose hate for Hillary has gotten so freaking irrational that all it takes is a comment on a podcast about something everyone can already see for themselves to send otherwise "thoughtful" people into a mouth-foaming rage about how Hillary is going to going to "ruin everything," and should "go away already"...which apparently at this means just stop breathing.
Tulsi. Just everything about her.
OR, the people whose hate for Hillary has gotten so freaking irrational that all it takes is a comment on a podcast about something everyone can already see for themselves to send otherwise "thoughtful" people into a mouth-foaming rage about how Hillary is going to going to "ruin everything," and should "go away already"...which apparently at this means just stop breathing.
Shitbirds of a feather.
Not even her ceasing to breathe would quell the rage of the Mommy Issues Caucus. They'd just say she hogged too much attention while doing it.
Remember that, when asked by Congress, the DOJ said there is no actual case that Durham is working. There is no paper trail or authorization at DOJ for anything he is doing. It's a complete shadow investigation.
Liberal veteran who worked with the Sanders campaign in 2016 confirms that Tootsie is full of shit and only pretends to care about her fellow vets. Shocker!!!
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