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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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I was the first person he quoted, and I haven't specifically talked about AOC in months lol
Which is something everyone should be happy about.
That would be a good primary if/when (don't nitpick me on the language here people) Bernie and Warren or Warren and Bernie are the top 2 people running.
Hilarious, but I honestly think we overestimate how much spending actually helps poll numbers. Hillary out-raised Trump and I don't think it really helped her, Bernie's out raising everyone and spending it and his polls numbers are pretty much static. Get out the vote efforts are important, though.
I think this confirms that this is what AOC met with Bernie and Faiz about in Burlington 2-3 weeks ago.
So it was likely happening sooner than later anyway.
its ok, they asked only for people from the us to vote
I mean this is the poli thread, we deal in tactics most of the time. Fanboys don't understand it.
im with you man. Yes she is winning the dem primary as it stands but she has work to do.
Btw, the only thing I like about Booker is that he's dating my childhood crush.
Rosario Dawson could make a man go Vegan....
Rosario Dawson could make a man go Vegan....
Spitting FIRE on... deleting the man's Twitter account? I can't believe Ian Sams has her on this tirade
Well, no, I'm afraid you're being short-sighted here? I apologize if I'm being rude here.
AOC's endorsement will mainly only hold relevance to the progressive side of the Democratic candidates, and as you and others already stated, Sanders is the closest running candidate to where AOC is on the spectrum. AOC, as popular or unpopular as she may be, isn't going to make Biden or Kamala supporters suddenly ditch their favorites to start rooting for Bernie Sanders. Likewise if AOC had (somehow) opted to endorse Biden or Buttigieg or whoever, her endorsement likely wouldn't cause many progressive voters to ditch their support of Bernie or Warren for a more moderate candidate.
The context surrounding this endorsement (the time, circumstances, position in the running) absolutely has an impact on the varying weight of worth that AOC's endorsement to a candidate has. Her endorsing Bernie right now primarily impacts the competition between him and Warren, most likely to help stem the bleeding of voters he's been facing after his heart attack. Could it result in a major shift where Warren loses a big chunk of supporters? Possibly, but considering the other circumstances going on in the race right now and Warren's continued upward swing in the polls in early states, I personally doubt that will be the case.
In contrast, if AOC had opted to endorse Warren here and now over Bernie, that would have most likely resulted in a rapid acceleration of decline for Bernie by her essentially supporting a consolidation of progressive-leaning voters to the candidate who didn't just have a heart attack, who is currently winning polls in Iowa and who is now the frontrunner of the primary.
I really like her when she's on her game. She had so much potential; I'm not sure what went wrong.
Banning Trump isnt a policy position. I'd love to see him removed too. But I really think this should be legislated. His actions on Twitter should be 'fire-in-a-movie-theater' level illegal
Is there a point to anything on an anonymous heavily moderated forum meant for video game enthusiasts?
I liked that he thought he was the adult in the room and kept asking the children to stop fighting.
i mean, it seems a bit less historic than his actual contest wins in 2016
Even amongst all voters, Warren's net favorability is not nearly as bad as Hillary's. The latest Quinnipiac had even had hers basically even with Biden's. The point is just to relax, and listen to the data and not to concern yourself with just the people around you who, once again, say they are not to be ecstatic for voting for another woman for vague reasons.
Sadly the Supreme Court seems to become very partisan during "1st amendment"
Court cases
With a CoH figure for Biden can work out
$10.9M + $15.2M - $17.1M = $9M
Burn rate = 113%
I.e. He spent about $2M / 13% more money in the last quarter than he raised.
$10.9M + $15.2M - $17.1M = $9M
Burn rate = 113%
I.e. He spent about $2M / 13% more money in the last quarter than he raised.
I do appreciate (despise) where this thread is going though. Idiot pops in with stupid shit (ignores response)
evades detection, great success. Fuck off.
evades detection, great success. Fuck off.
I think this is pretty unrealistic. We aren't getting a repudiation of Trump or Trumpism because this is what the Republican party is. This is 40+ years of the southern strategy at work. Trumps just the first guy who is saying the quite parts out loud. We will probably get more of these Trump types in the future. Right after Trump it might go back to "normal" for a bit, but sooner or later the base is going to get what it wants. The only way we could ever get a repudiation of Trumpism is if the modern Republican party folds and is split. Which is not going to happen in our life time.
As Adam pointed out, endorsements in-and-of themselves are meh, it's just the context around them - and the possibility of them being surprising - that makes them big. Here, I'll give an example:
AOC endorsing Sanders right when the heart attack was first announced would not be meh, even if her policies line up with his. It would've been a truly great show of support, and signal a belief in Sanders that he can overcome whatever ailments he has.
But AOC endorsing him on Saturday, and not just that, but leaks on Tuesday night saying she's expected to endorse? That's not big. That's an obvious attempt to staunch the bleeding and turn the page in the media on the heart attack that's costing him poll numbers. But the heart attack has entered the public consciousness now, and that's not going to go away, no matter who endorses.
Edit: Warren both wins and loses in WaPo's Winners and Losers of Debate night:
End of the day- it's all about principle. Damm all that pageantry you just mentioned when it's all about policy.
Emma is a Warren supporter as well as Bernie. She regularly catches heat for it
Speaking for myself here, but I wouldn't have cared very much. I'd be surprised for a moment.
Welp my thread got #canceled
Anyways....
I love Warren and all, but she fuckign lost that debate.
if you've experience a meteoritic rise to frontrunner, you better prepare for the onslaught of attacks that are gonna come on a 12 CANDIDATE DEBATE ON CNN, and it feels like she was running her same "be chill and smart as fuck" strategy that won her the previous debates. It didn't work this time, and nownis the first time since she started that I doubt her.
Anyways....
I love Warren and all, but she fuckign lost that debate.
if you've experience a meteoritic rise to frontrunner, you better prepare for the onslaught of attacks that are gonna come on a 12 CANDIDATE DEBATE ON CNN, and it feels like she was running her same "be chill and smart as fuck" strategy that won her the previous debates. It didn't work this time, and nownis the first time since she started that I doubt her.
It's a little frightening no doubt. I'm actually nervous for the 2020 Democratic National Convention.
Just checked twitter and to no surprise nobody likes Tulsi Gabbard.
I think Klobuchar and O'Rourke will probably have to drop out next.
They won't get onto the next debate and they're burning money faster than their cash reserves can probably sustain.
They won't get onto the next debate and they're burning money faster than their cash reserves can probably sustain.
If only we warned you a thread like that would be locked and serves no purpose.
Ok?
TYT is trash regardless, twitter peoples opinions are less than dirt and more worthless than cow shit on a 100 degree day. I initially thought it was actually some CNN post debate polling or something.
I don't disagree with your sentiment, and in an ideal world, the masses would vote on policy over things like pageantry, popularity or charisma. Unfortunately we don't exist in that world right now and we have to be smart of how to get that policy through and make it a reality.
That inherently means that you have to win the race first. So for now, the stuff that you may not enjoy about the process are absolutely factors that play into this. You can say "damn it all" as much as you want, that won't change the reality of the situation here and now.
Im gonna disagree. People would have cared a lot, but only because Warren is surging to #1 and isnt carrying the socialist baggage boogeyman Bernie is. That's why this is just a critical error all around. Selfish assholes everywhere when they learn Bernie isnt it and have an AOC endorsement are gonna do the same shit i heard in 2016 which is 'well there just isnt anyone in this election for me'.
This is the sort of thing we'd actually have time for if the DNC grew a pair of gonads and limited the debate field.
Aaahaha
Sanders should use those endorsements as a reboot to his campaign. Shake up the staff, and try to figure out a new strategy going forward. His entire focus should be on the first four states and super Tuesday. If he can win a couple of the first states and do well on super Tuesday he has a real shot, but if he's consistently in third place it's going to be over pretty quick.
I was really disappointed that the debates so far hasn't covered gerrymandering and redistricting, I don't know why it hasn't been brought up.
I wish we could get any news organization to be as dogged in the pursuit of an answer from Trump on any question as they are on their pursuit of making Warren say the words "I will raise taxes on the middle class."
We know what she means. They know what she means. The other candidates know what she means. The American people know what she means. But it is vitally important we make her say the magic words. She should just say Mexico is gonna pay for it.
We know what she means. They know what she means. The other candidates know what she means. The American people know what she means. But it is vitally important we make her say the magic words. She should just say Mexico is gonna pay for it.
Not really an executive branch issue, those are state election issues
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