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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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Warren and Bernie have a secret pact im convinced they will endorse the other. EVery answer is constructed so carefully to avoid each other.
Biden made a strategic error by taking credit for Warren's achievement.
Biden was yelling about how Warren's bills were passed because of his effort to get them votes in late 2000's/2010's
Warren turned around and thanked "President Obama" for helping get votes
Biden said he helped pass Warren's CFPB in the Senate. Warren was asked to answer that and she said "I thank President Obama for helping... and others" and everybody went "oooohhhhh".
She clearly thinks Biden wasn't that helpful.
But Biden came off as an ass for trying to get credit for Warren's accomplishment. He was almost waiting for a "thank you" from her. Warren clearly didn't like that.
He didn't take credit for it.
He just pointed out that he went out to lobby votes for the CPB...which he did.
Lol. I mean I'm in the tank for Warren, but I thought she was sly in basically pointing out... Biden keeps taking credit for other people's achievements.
I don't know how influential Biden was in getting CFPB passed, but her dissing Biden hardly gives us a clue on how important he actually was. He was being a dick and he got a slap back.
Like, Biden keeps on talking like he was POTUS. Yea, he did important shit, but he's walking around like he was the Obama administration.
you're wrong. As a campaign position sure. But if you have the pres, house, and senate:
kill the filibuster. Add 5 states. Pack the court.
Hold the senate in perpetuity and deny any GOP sc picks unless theyre a left center justice.
If you somehow lose the senate in 20 years or whatever I don't care. It was worth those 20 years.
Hell maybe kill the senate if you can.
Yeah, it wasn't just the dissing on Biden. Biden was yelling at her and she had to calmly throw the shadiest of shade at him.
He totally took credit for it lol.
"You have me to thank for getting the votes."
Like, the fact he is going on on this take when we got a bunch of first hand people now on the books means he is flailing al the fuck around.
It was also very rich how Biden actually chuckled at Warren for invoking Obama. You go, guy whose literal only reason he is currently polling over 5% is because he was Obama's VP, and who took credit during this debate for a lot of stuff Obama got done.
It was a weird thing to yell about.
"I started the CFPB"
"AND I HELPED YOU! DON'T YOU FORGET THAT!"
Don't compare state courts to the Supreme Court, they are different universes. As far as Garland, that was dirty as fuck, but not court packing. Also, there is polling out there, court packing is not popular. Doing it at the Supreme Court level is beyond dumb, and will turn away Independents like crazy
Where is the power level chart?
Klobber getting the 3rd most time is criminal.
So then she responded by...giving the credit to Obama?
CNN has hidden trap doors under everyone right?
The debate is going to end with everyone but Warren, Sanders and Biden getting sent into the furnace... right???
The debate is going to end with everyone but Warren, Sanders and Biden getting sent into the furnace... right???
I always fear anything like that could lead to another Waco Texas situation.
They really do.... which is why she needs to take him out in preparation for Trump. This shit is a shonen tournament arc and we get to see it in real time
When your campaign is failing because people think you're a dinosaur, you can't yell at a woman during a debate. This is basic stuff.
That's why her answer was actually great. The audience laughed because they knew exactly what it meant. Biden is Mr 'i love Obama', so she just threw it in his face.
I'm trying to give Warren a chance but her answer on healthcare in the first part of the debate really pissed me off.
I don't care if she's trying to "avoid a negative soundbite", she's not only coming off as dishonest, she's BEING dishonest by not just being upfront with the implications of her medicare for all plan. It's like she doesn't trust the American people to handle the truth or she's so afraid of the GOP political machine that she has to hide the truth from the American people. Neither is good and makes me worried how she'll handle difficult times if she's elected President if her immediate instincts is to go into a shell and obfuscate the truth from the public if it's to her political benefit.
No thanks.
I don't care if she's trying to "avoid a negative soundbite", she's not only coming off as dishonest, she's BEING dishonest by not just being upfront with the implications of her medicare for all plan. It's like she doesn't trust the American people to handle the truth or she's so afraid of the GOP political machine that she has to hide the truth from the American people. Neither is good and makes me worried how she'll handle difficult times if she's elected President if her immediate instincts is to go into a shell and obfuscate the truth from the public if it's to her political benefit.
No thanks.
He's the dude that comes in at the last second and demands a woman acknowledge his token contributions to her years long effort.
I wonder how a gender split would look at this. Old white guy trying to take credit for a woman's accomplishments is... Well, there's going to be plenty of women who think "Yeah, that happens to me, too", I'm sure.
you do it after you have a locked down senate by killing the filibuster and adding 5 states. Don't campaign on it sure. Then kill the senate and get rid of the EC altogether.
after it happens people will forget about it as we'll be living in the liberal democracy we deserve.
these are ideas yeah you dont campaign on but you just to foster the end of the GOP as a meaningful party as it rightfully deserves.
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