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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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Bernie bros may like Warren up there after this. It's like Bernie and Warren are forming medicare4all voltron
bernie has the "you're damn right it's going up" answer that I fully support. Taxes go up, health care costs go down.
She should just say, "taxes will go up on the wealthiest 1% of Americans to pay for it" which is technically not even a lie
I get it, but Warren should attempt to refocus here.
The second she says 'yes' about taxes going up, they'll have her super imposed on a soviet parade.
The second she says 'yes' about taxes going up, they'll have her super imposed on a soviet parade.
I'd be more worried about Bernie going poison pill on that. Can't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind, though.
But why doesn't she say that? Just say the focus on taxes is clearly a right wing framing. Look at costs. Instead of just saying COSTS COSTS COSTS
She said that climate change lightbulb policing was a right wing framing and was great. Here she looks like a dead fish.
Too nuanced to fit into a line that'll resonate with the average American.
Agreed. She's had this answer before and needs to answer it better and quicker.
Yup. Bernie can afford to be more honest because he ain't going to win this primary. That's a luxury he has here in this debate.
The moment they get Liz to admit that taxes will go up, she's going to be bombarded by attack ads with the soundbite.
You might be kidding, but I think that part of Warren's strategy is for Sanders to say the "taxes will go up" part out loud and Warren calculates that she can take a smaller hit by avoiding saying that than actually saying it.
it might work. There's still more time for other big moments to be made available to her during the debate and keep her momentum going or at least not suffer damage.
Pete really came off as an asshole, even if you don't like Warren.
I don't know. Maybe her debate prep team needs to be mixed up because she was asked this shit before and had a poor answer. Anyone who watched the previous debates knew this was coming, and it's not hard to come up with a reasonable fucking answer.
Yeah, Warren's healthcare answer is evasive, but it hasn't hurt her poll numbers yet. Should be interesting to see if there's any movement after tonight.
I told y'all. I told y'all weeks ago. Warren's playing a dangerous game being the "I have a plan for that" candidate. The dangerous game being, churning out plans like a McDonald's means.....that a lot of those plans are fucking bad. If a candidate has the guts to call her out on that, she's toast on a response.
She is desperately trying to not get caught saying M4A will raise your taxes. So she says costs. And now 5 people challenged her on it and it's clear that it's a flimsy answer.
I'll say no. I think this impeachment news cycle pretty much puts a freeze on any of this.
Which is infuriating.
Do any of these losers think they have a chance?
Why would Klobber hurt the party when it's painfully obvious to everyone it's not going to happen for her.
no the difference is she's defending a plan she didn't even write
It's not an inherently bad plan to raise taxes. There is a way to message it correctly. Evading it is not going to keep working.
Everybody understands that "total costs will go down for the middle class" means taxes for the middle class will go up by less than the current costs will decrease. Demanding a particular soundbite is silly, but it's what some have.
That's the whole problem! It's so transparently evasive that everyone can tell she's being evasive. If you can actually fool people by evading the question then it wouldn't be a bad strategy.
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