True, but man, that's gotta be a blow to the ego. Junior to the Kennedy that primaried you.
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT7| It's happening
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Look who's using Kavanaugh's treatment by the ~~~evil Left~~~ to fundraise.
Disgusting, vile, horrible person who needs to lose in a landslide or just fucking retire. I hate her so much.
LOL no.
He won't. The polling has been absolutely hilarious. It would take a monumental collapse for him to lose
Her email says in BOLD PRINT, "I cast my vote for him last year, and I would do so again."
Just flaunting it and spitting in her constituents' faces and women's faces in general. And if she runs, she'll be touting her ~~~bipartisan~~~ record and probably using statements from fucking Manchin and Feinstein.
Ugh.
Just flaunting it and spitting in her constituents' faces and women's faces in general. And if she runs, she'll be touting her ~~~bipartisan~~~ record and probably using statements from fucking Manchin and Feinstein.
Ugh.
Terrified of being primaried for some fuckin reason. Also just plain evil.
If Pelosi is actively whipped against impeachment then she's doing an even worse job of that given that more than half the caucus is publicly in favor of impeachment.
I think his calculus goes something like "man, I'd really like to be President someday. I should be a Senator."
He's running because he knows he can win. That's about it. Typically this has to happen because the incumbent is politically bad or negligent (like in Crowley's case) because you couldn't possibly gain the edge needed to win otherwise. This is a special situation that few other people could pull off. Maybe if Chelsea Clinton tried to primary Schumer or something
If he is solid, he shouldn't have to worry about a primary challenge.
Also, if this is who Markey surrounds himself with, I'm rooting for Joe. Fucking disgusting.
It's infuriating. Would he move left if he won? Everything I've read does t point to it.
He figures he has a better chance now primarying another white man like Markey, than he would with an open seat, which may invite more challengers, women, women of colour, like Ayanna Pressley. Another generic white guy.
There's some speculation now too...
Since Kennedy has already started this shitfight.
Also, some bitchcrackers.
I didn't realise the HRC LGBTQI+ forum was actually announced in March.
The date coincides with the eve of the 31st National Coming Out Day. So it's pretty easy to remember!
At the time of the announcement, candidates would only need 1% and 60K donors, although this seems to have been escalated to the same as the debate criteria. Certain candidates though would have known they cleared this threshold way back in March.
I don't know how anyone could no-show due to a "scheduling conflict" unless they specifically scheduled a clash...
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I didn't realise the HRC LGBTQI+ forum was actually announced in March.
The date coincides with the eve of the 31st National Coming Out Day. So it's pretty easy to remember!
At the time of the announcement, candidates would only need 1% and 60K donors, although this seems to have been escalated to the same as the debate criteria. Certain candidates though would have known they cleared this threshold way back in March.
I don't know how anyone could no-show due to a "scheduling conflict" unless they specifically scheduled a clash...
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This is a weird framing of elections.
Often, elections arent meritocratic and they dont happen in a vacuum.
Rick Scott is a monster and he still won Florida, Beto lost to Cruz, Al Gore, etc.
Hell, Biden is running a horrific campaign and he has a ten point lead!
In this sense, Markey losing to Kennedy in MA wouldnt have much to do with "how solid he is", you are thinking about campaigns with a level of rationality that simply isnt there for a lot of voters
Joe winning has everything to do with the fact that hes a fucking Kennedy in Kennedy Country and that means that he only has to be a mediocre white cishet to have a legitimate shot at winning
A lot of things about this story confuse me:
Primary at the moment being, why the desperation to bring Ayanna into this? As far I know, she hasn't said shit. Also, she just ran the same kind of "time for fresh faces" campaign against Capuano that Kennedy is gearing to make against Markey. So why would she say anything?
What's the case for Markey remaining in the Senate from the prospective of someone who doesn't particularly care he's the more progressive candidate?
Primary at the moment being, why the desperation to bring Ayanna into this? As far I know, she hasn't said shit. Also, she just ran the same kind of "time for fresh faces" campaign against Capuano that Kennedy is gearing to make against Markey. So why would she say anything?
What's the case for Markey remaining in the Senate from the prospective of someone who doesn't particularly care he's the more progressive candidate?
Bingo.
He lives, breathes, and eats crime. Was born into it. Owned by it. He may fire the internal pollsters tha tgive him bad news, but he knows how he's polling in battleground states that's why he did it. And so like you said he will go again and again to cheating, lawbreaking, and sedition in desperation over the next 13.5 months. It is inevitable.
Not acting like this is going to happen, and ESPECIALLY to stand stronger against this rising desperation is indirectly allowing it. Standing against it wont stop him from trying, and brings everyone down. Worst case scenario given what you said isn't that it works but makes it EXPECTED and we see blatant begging or demanding of interference from foriegn companies, mafias, and spy services from now on.
And that's back to where we are with the 60-odd Dem Reps and 200 GOP reps who wont do their duty. Congress weakens, our sovereignty weakens, and the reputations of the political parties weaken and the sack of shit still loses after trashing the place with late pushback.
I think it's doing a slight disservice to both voters and to Kennedy with that point of view.
Joe is/was considered a rising star in Congress. It's not a foregone conclusion that there is support for him not just because of his name, but he is a well liked Democratic politician. The only reason he's getting any blowback is because Markey is a darling of the progressive movement.
Furthermore, to my point about an incumbent being 'solid', do you think that he'd have the audacity to primary Warren, let alone be leading her in polls before even announcing, even with the Kennedy last name? The fact of the matter is, Markey is vulnerable because despite a 37 year career in Congress and strong progressive record, he lacks the incumbency advantage because he's as dry as burnt toast.
Look at Virginia. The only person who could successfully primary Warner or Kaine is McAuliffe.
That was a read.
Frankly, the borderline infantilizing of Markey has been...strange.
Yeah I also had him mixed up with Conner Lamb in my head. Lamb is from a swing district in PA.
Even McAuliffe couldn't pull it off. The incumbency advantage is strong unless you have a huge name recognition advantage, which is impossible without some major outlying factor.
Like, George Clooney could probably primary Feinstein (if CA didn't have the jungle primary system, anyway), but that's the kind of power it would take.
Maaybe George P Bush could try to tackle Cornyn or Cruz and do it successfully too.
if John James and Bill Schuette want to remind us all the reasons we didn't like them last year, uh, go for it?
I'm going to talk to my wife about it tonight. This was over a month ago, if not longer, and I suspect they've moved on, but I can't stop thinking about it.
You know, this raises a question. Why can't Kennedy wait and run for governor?
He'd likely be a shoe-in, and governor positions have in recent history been far more electable as presidents for numerous reasons.
Look who's using Kavanaugh's treatment by the ~~~evil Left~~~ to fundraise.
Disgusting, vile, horrible person who needs to lose in a landslide or just fucking retire. I hate her so much.
LOL no.
Fucking hell man, how can someone be so evil for money? Threw her gender under the fucking bus and is now whining about it?
I still remembered how she was so fucking GIDDY and gleeful to defend Kavanaugh in that speech. Just had the happiest time on Earth like a pig in the fuckin' mud, man.
Since when has a politician who represents you being more self-promotional rather than less been an asset? Markey has low name recognition, but to dump an incumbent, you need a compelling justification. Markey's record is strong and it's in line with the electorate. I don't buy the soft polling at all other than he's never needed to spend much of his campaign war chest so his numbers are middling.
This show is such a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's petty, but I love seeing people fight back when Meghan shoves her privileged ass to everyone's faces.
Sorry to take so long to answer. I had to clean our church today.
So, she's being vague in just blaming "congress." It lets anyone read into it what they want. If you're upset at Pelosi, you can read it as a read on her. Or, if you're not yet mad at Pelosi you can read it as a read on the inaction in the Senate. It's worded precisely to give everyone what they want, without actually being antagonistic.
It's a good statement.
Hmm...well I'm thinking of someone who Trump struggles with remembering her full name...
Why can't the people of Massachusetts just not vote a Republican to gov every few years.
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