This administration is a pack of wolves. When things get bad they will eat each other.
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT7| It's happening
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This administration is a pack of wolves. When things get bad they will eat each other.
That's literally not what it was for Hillary though. The fact that all these years later folks still wanna discount Hillary's connection to the black party base with "electability" is maddening. I do think Biden's is rooted in that, but there are the Obama ties, as well as, yes, being more moderate than some of the other candidates.
Warren has time to improve things. I think she will.
Curious, because they shouldn't know who it is.
Not even considering they're willing to meet with the intelligence committees.
Yup , you don't win with those margins without putting in the work for sure.
THIS. Bolton gtfo when he knew shit was fucked. Unfortunately for Mulvaney, he is an idiot and true believer and him not leaving when he could may be his downfall if they can pin anything on him.
True.
You mean the prosecutor that was involved in investigating the Fossil fuel company that his son was a board member on?
Even taking into consideration that he is totally and completely innocent on this, this story isn't going to go any where anytime soon. And you can't dismiss this as "bbut the EMAILS!" because that's what resulted in Clinton losing the damn election!
This will be brought up in Democratic debates and if he gets nominated then it will most definitely will be brought up during the general election. I can already see the two incoherent old buffoons arguing about wanting to investigate each other and all this does is suppress voter turnout. I don't want there to be a repeat of a 2016 election and I am well within my right to be concerned about the optics on this.
And what did Biden do besides get chosen to be VP lol
The fact that there's already finger pointing and soon to be competing narratives going on on this story certainly doesn't spell good news for the White House on this scandal. I mean what does these days but still.
Yep.
And right now Biden vs Warren is reminding me a lot of Hillary vs Bernie when it comes to the black vote.
Warren is consolidating young white progressives. But if Biden keeps it close in that demo while maintaining his hold on black support, black voters will deliver him the nomination.
And, what's worrying me, is I'm starting to sense that similar patronizing approach to winning black voters from the Warren camp. Certainly nothing as wreckless as Sanders and his "they just don't know that I marched with King yet," but I feel it. But yeah, she has time to correct that.
It's brilliant for him insofar as none of his rivals would possibly lean into it because they'd instantly draw the entire party's ire.
Yeah this is a point. This really only gets brought up if the debaters bring it up and package it into Biden's donors also being from fossil fuel companies. But right now the heat and focus is o Trump as it should be.
It would be the greatest heel turn of all time. Unfortunately it's more likely it's Coats if we're talking about biggies being the whistleblower. I wouldn't 100% count Bolton out though.
Even INGRAHAM the fucking Nazi is laughing at his dumb ass!
A line has absolutely been crossed with this shit. R Congressmen/women are shook as fuck and their loyal lackeys on TV are acting seriously off.
Biden has done all of jack shit work with PoC communities lol. I'm really not seeing the connection here and this shouldn't be a narrative.
I certainly think that the positive way that the campaign has carried itself so far will be a significant difference with Warren on this one as opposed to Bernie.
Anecdotally, several older black folks that I know and have spoken to on this are at the very least keeping Warren in consideration which again, is much more than I can say from the last time we went through this with Bernie.
But he has done a ton of outreach. That and his history with Obama could be enough.
However, Warren has a thing going for her that Bernie doesn't: likeability beyond her base, and a willingness to use it.
You mean the investigation that wasn't even active at the time this supposedly happened?
You mean the prosecutor who the West (the EU and US) was long united in being hell-bent on removing to try to stem the tide of corruption in the Ukranian government (the US wasn't even leading the charge here)?
It's fine to say "I worry about the impact these baseless smears may have on Biden as a candidate". It is not OK to pretend they have any legitimacy. If you have arguments to make against Biden, then make your case based on facts.
I mean, the problem is that Warren is putting in the work. I don't think she's doing anything less than she has to in order to court black voters. She has the highest favorability rating of any of the candidates, so it's not like she has to convince them to like her. What she does have to do is convince them she's a better option than Biden, whether that's taking into account policy or electability.
The way people talk about Warren's issues with black voters makes it sound like she's Buttigieg, who's made very little effort by comparison to draw them in. Everyone who's not Biden is having issues with black voters, including black candidates like Booker and Harris.
Granted my theory all along has been that if Warren notches wins in IA, NH and NV that'll turn enough heads in SC and the Southern Super Tuesday states to help her not be totally blown out there by Biden's margins among black voters. That's not really something that can be quantified right now. I don't think she even has to win - the problem Clinton had in 08 and Sanders had in 16 is they didn't get ANY traction among black voters. Tempering those margins and simply losing by less would have given Clinton the nomination in 08 and made Sanders far more competitive.
Well sis, you and I know this, but as long as he keeps positioning himself as the continuation of Obama's lagacy and going to black voters, that's the reception he's going to get.
There WAS an attack aimed at him at the last Dem debate that I thought had a hint of effectiveness if an opponent were willing to go hard on him, and that was the idea that Biden is leaning so hard on Obama's accomplishments that it's starting to sound like taking credit for them.
I mean if people are taking these bottom of the barrel attempts as outreach then I guess.
Thankfully when black voters start looking at her there won't be tons of scandals and other shit drudged up like I feared Kamala would face.
It's actually kinda hilarious how much black Twitter attacks have been focused at Kamala while Biden just skates by. Like y'all parents are out here vowing to vote Biden to polling agencies and youre focused on putting Kamala is a Cop in your profile name. Let's focus on the actual fights.
Lmfao @ Ingraham getting Gosar'd
Also, digging in there, I had no idea Thunberg has Asperger's. God fucking damn. She's incredible.
Depends on how far he's willing to cover for Rudy Guiliani it seems.
My money is on Bolton and it's a better twist than anything game of thrones did in the last 4 years
Oh wow. 😯
We getting another one of those "I've had a huge scandal and I'm gonna make it 1000x worse by holding an off the wall press conference where I admit to everything and more"? We haven't had one of those in a min, gotta say. Should be interesting.
well there is the obama association but i would expect a massive drop off if he loses those states.
It's happening.
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Am I the only one who gets irrationally angry every time Guliani is the news because nothing ever came of him and SDNY leaking in 2016?
As much as I would enjoy this immensely,I think they both have clear conflicts of interest.
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