John Kennedy on MSNBC is fucking angry about Pelosi doing this and spinning like a motherfucker
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US PoliEra 2019 |OT7| It's happening
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Literally my biggest fear. The blowback would be debilitating.
They're moving on this because it's a softball: easy to communicate (though Pelosi almost flubbed it in the PC), believable bc it fits the pattern of his conduct whether or not you support him, and in the act rather than bearing the baggage of a past election.
The other thing to note is that the speed at which this has evolved means that the Dems control the narrative for once - the propagandists haven't yet found a spin that resonates and dumb ass Trump admitted the thing in full over the past day.
Perfect storm.
The other thing to note is that the speed at which this has evolved means that the Dems control the narrative for once - the propagandists haven't yet found a spin that resonates and dumb ass Trump admitted the thing in full over the past day.
Perfect storm.
Not only is it damn good messaging, it's the complete truth.
Trump is too stupid for that. Yet he gets away with everything.
Very little. It gives them legal justification that they may have lacked previously, but everything is still going to get tied up in the courts (because this administration will never cooperate).
Assuming we win the vote in the House (everybody should be nervous about this right now), it's not going to change anything. Maybe the media will provide adequate coverage and the narrative will shift... but I wouldn't hold my breath.
We know what happened. And it demanded impeachment (Nancy stalled as long as she could to protect the caucus, but that was no longer viable with this latest action—she needed to get on board or get out of the way).
The only question is whether it can be proved.
I still can't believe he tried to make that a thing, make it seem like he was a victim.
As opposed to what? No investigation? I guess waiting to see the whistleblower documents would have been wise. But if all the reporting is accurate, and there seems little reason to believe otherwise, why not start now?
That's one hell of a rallying message. The house must impeach the motherfucker to protect the republic.
But we know a) Money was withheld seemingly completely verified and b) Trump put pressure on Ukraine to investigate after the fact as admitted to by Trump.
MSNBC is fucking terrible. I never really watch anymore but just tuning and seeing Chuck Todd mewl about how bad this is for Dems is absurd.
Of course the media will basically be pushing the dems in disarray angle. I bet tulsi will get tons of interviews
What a two hours to miss.
Official impeachment hearings with no equivocation, Senate votes to release whistle-blower report, Trump melts down on Twitter.
Speaking of which do we know if anyone is trying to primary her yet? If they haven't they should be by now.
There are no transcripts. Only notes. And yes, they do. Transcripts are worthless.
Hawaiian state senator Kai Kahele announced a while ago. seems to be a very legit challenger.
Chuck Todd is openly laughing in this guy's face. Well this is a first.
the republican response to this has been just "wow, that will be bad for them!"
it's like when the scooby doo villain yells "I'll get you!" as he's being pulled away by the cops
it's like when the scooby doo villain yells "I'll get you!" as he's being pulled away by the cops
Ok. So they wont be worth anything unless the IC has a recording.
As many or more people probably believe the stuff about Biden actually has merit (and the media gladly indulges).
I think it ends up in a wash. Whose mind is going to be changed?
Its amazing to me how today you have both Trumps from the UK and US get fucked. So much cosmic energyyyyyyy~
Even though the Biden thing is bullshit, but lets pretend it was true...it still doesn't matter at all versus what Trump did is impeachable and self serving. This "lets investigate Biden too" spin they are trying is a massive miss.
This is also how you know this was the right one to go all in on.
The nihilism is a core tenet of trumpism, tho: "everything is fucked, how bad could I really be by politicians standards? my flaws are just trash-talk."
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Not dismissing your point, as you're right. Just pointing out that Republican misinformation works not by getting you to believe it, but getting you to entertain it.
I probably just have ptsd from 2016, but I'm really worried how pro-releasing the transcripts trump is, and how pro-releasing the whistle blowing complaint Mitch is.
I can only think of two explanations. Either the actual thing isn't bad, or they're going to release something that isn't really representative of what happened but it'll muddy the waters. Both of those options are no bueno.
I can only think of two explanations. Either the actual thing isn't bad, or they're going to release something that isn't really representative of what happened but it'll muddy the waters. Both of those options are no bueno.
I'm not scared. Trump wants to put the genie back in the bottle.
Transcript can be doctored or spun.
McConnell's bill is non-binding and gives him cover if this blows up.
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