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US PoliERA 2019 |OT2| #PresidentPelosi
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Why are you not puting the, government, you know people who's literal job is to keep the place running, accountable in this? I mean there's pointing out activist flaws, and then there's literally putting the weight on activists deflecting the government's shortcomings in their responsibilities.
The government (including the democrats) should be criticized at the times they faulter, because that's how they're going to become better.
The US is in a position of being one of the top CO2 emitters in the world, being one of the most powerful nations in the world while also having tons of government people who are climate change denialists whom caused their constituents to also be climate change denialists.
The US wants tons of power and influence on a global scale? Well sorry but that power and influence comes with TONS of global responsibilities.
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I dunno, I'll have to see if anything else is going on that date. At least he's giving advance notice!
He just invented the fourth of july. Why didn't this country do anything on that date before, ever?
It's more like, massive disappointment especially since impending global doom.
But tbh your right, why the shock?
I agree with all of this. Why aren't you angry that the people who are supposed to be holding the government accountable are bad at their jobs? Of course activists should get weight in how the world needs saving, that's what they signed up for. But I'm supposed to be relieved my life is the hands of people who can't get a vote from an old lady? How are they supposed to save me from real problems like flooding if they can't even do that?
No, one would be unrelieved that powerful person and ideologically like-minded powerful people have not been and continues to not be doing enough to combat global catastrophe. Though I guess one wouldn't be unrelieved if they conveniently find scapegoats.
And yeah, sorta equating activists with senators is weird
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They're not scapegoats when it's their chosen responsibility to accomplish that specific goal. When a politician I voted for fails to uphold their oath and serve their constituents I will blame them, if a police officer is corrupt I will blame them, if a mechanic fixes my car poorly I will blame them.
This is their activist mantle to bear, so they get the blame for not saving us from climate change. There is no excuse for incompetence, they've wasted decades being unable or unwilling to find the right solutions to protect us from this. So yeah, I'm going to blame them for not being up to the task for saving this planet from disaster.
They had one job to convince the world and they choked. Some heroes there. Why should I be grateful for that?
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I believe in marching children off to ancient buildings with no air conditioning every day for 10 months out of the year where they will be forced to learn multiplication tables and have their penmanship graded by old crones who lost the will to live at least 20 years prior. OH and the only choice they will get is what kind of MILK they get!
The sooner people realize that Mueller isn't going to take down Trump, the better...
Need? No.
Want? Yes.
Still love Barry though. It's very obvious what he is trying to accomplish. He should do an updated "buy land" song with Lil Jon
Americans in general need about that to actually get by. I think thats the sentiment... But when everyone else is making nothing.. Yeah... Seems a bit of a bad taste considering its tax money.. And just your crew..
People already see politician's as gouging them.
People have to take deep deep breaths so that fear doesn't end up the foundation of new viewpoints on crucial topics.
We have enough tangible fears to base views on as is. Deep breaths.
We have enough tangible fears to base views on as is. Deep breaths.
Oregon has a real low key systematic problem with racism.
It reminds me of abusive gaslighting tbh.
Yeah, I was trying to hint at OR's historic issues with white supremacy.
This is the big thing, that there's always a job for these creeps. That's why Trump needs to go down so hard that even the right-wing media machine disowns him, so we don't have all of his hangers-on spouting nonsense for the next 30 years.
I don't know if it's all that low-key, but then again, as someone from the PNW, I knew from an early age about Oregon and it's "Whites Only" history, etc.
It probably is low-key to people who think that "Portlandia" is an accurate representation of Oregon and who haven't stopped for gas in, say, Wolf Creek and felt kinda uncomfortable (like this poster has).
I heard from a Portlander that a lot of the white liberals there are hyper sensitive about being racist because of that history (and the state still being white as fuck).
I think so. I've been many, many, many times, but I've never lived there, so my perspective is different. I think a significant number young liberals from Portland really want to display their inclusivity and sensitivity, which honestly doesn't bother me because I appreciate the effort. A lot of folks down there are typically just defensive about any suggestion of racism, though, and the cops are really bad, just awful, and they need a legitimate DoJ to come through like it did up here in Seattle and force reforms.
You get south of the C&D Canal and you're definitely in Trump Country, and unlike larger states where there's population centers to counterbalance the rural sections, Delaware has a pocket of civilization at the north end and that's about it.
Re: Feinstein and those kids, I'm going to quote a book whose politics I disagree with. This line pretty much sums up how I feel about the whole thing, though:
"I have never been able to see how a thirty-year-old moron can vote more wisely than a fifteen-year-old genius."
None of those kids are geniuses, but we've got enough thirty-year-old (and up) morons running around out here voting and making feeble attempts at governing that the kids supporting the (totally under-baked) GND and demanding a legitimate response to their support have my personal support first and foremost.
"I have never been able to see how a thirty-year-old moron can vote more wisely than a fifteen-year-old genius."
None of those kids are geniuses, but we've got enough thirty-year-old (and up) morons running around out here voting and making feeble attempts at governing that the kids supporting the (totally under-baked) GND and demanding a legitimate response to their support have my personal support first and foremost.
Oh cool he's doing that Rose Twitter thing where he equates "liberals" with "centrists." Because only socialists are actually left wing in that world.
"Oh but theyre using the traditional definition of liberalism which is centrist"
Ok then they shouldn't be referring to anyone as socialist unless they're currently demanding that the workers seize the means of production because that's the traditional definition.
Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1
NEW: Trump has disliked that his own government's climate reports contradict his global warming skepticism. So the White House is convening a group of scientists to reassess findings with a "mixture" of views. W/@eilperin & @brady_dennis: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/white-house-to-select-federal-scientists-to-reassess-government-climate-findings-sources-say/2019/02/24/49cd0a84-37dd-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html …
12:20 PM - Feb 24, 2019
Juliet Eilperin @eilperin
"The president wants people to be able to decide for themselves," an aide says of the proposed group on climate change, which will include researchers who question the extent to which human activity is fueling climate change. W/ @jdawsey1nd @brady_dennis https://wapo.st/2NrqvN5
12:20 PM - Feb 24, 2019
NEW: Trump has disliked that his own government's climate reports contradict his global warming skepticism. So the White House is convening a group of scientists to reassess findings with a "mixture" of views. W/@eilperin & @brady_dennis: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/white-house-to-select-federal-scientists-to-reassess-government-climate-findings-sources-say/2019/02/24/49cd0a84-37dd-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html …
12:20 PM - Feb 24, 2019
Juliet Eilperin @eilperin
"The president wants people to be able to decide for themselves," an aide says of the proposed group on climate change, which will include researchers who question the extent to which human activity is fueling climate change. W/ @jdawsey1nd @brady_dennis https://wapo.st/2NrqvN5
12:20 PM - Feb 24, 2019
WaPo: White House to select federal scientists to reassess government climate findings, sources say
The White House plans to create an ad hoc group of select federal scientists to reassess the government's analysis of climate science and counter its conclusions that the continued burning of fossil fuels is harming the planet, according to three administration officials.
The National Security Council initiative would include scientists who question the severity of climate impacts and the extent to which humans contribute to the problem, according to these individuals, who asked for anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The group would not be subject to the same level of public disclosure as a formal advisory committee.
The move would represent the Trump administration's most forceful effort to date to challenge the scientific consensus that greenhouse gas emissions are helping drive global warming and that the world could face dire consequences unless countries curb their carbon output over the next few decades.
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During the Friday meeting, these officials said, deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman said Trump was upset that his administration had issued the National Climate Assessment, which must be published regularly under federal law. Kupperman added that congressional Democrats had seized upon the report, which is the product of more than a dozen agencies, to bolster their case for cutting carbon emissions as part of the Green New Deal.
Attendees at the session, which included acting interior secretary David Bernhardt and senior officials from across the government, debated how best to establish a group of researchers that could scrutinize recent federal climate reports.
Happer, who headed an advocacy group called the CO2 Coalition before joining the administration in the fall, has challenged the scientific consensus on climate change inside and outside of government.
Public records show the coalition, which describes its mission as informing policymakers and the public of the "important contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and the economy," has received money from far-right organizations and donors with fossil fuel interests.
In 2017, according to federal tax filings obtained by the Climate Investigations Center, the group received $170,000 from the Mercer Family Foundation and more than $33,000 from the Charles Koch Institute.
One senior administration official said the president was looking for "a mixture of opinions" and disputed a massive inter-agency report in November that described intensifying climate change as a threat to the United States.
"The president wants people to be able to decide for themselves," the aide said.
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