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Iloelemen

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Oct 27, 2017
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Leftist Twitter is already talking about primarying AOC btw.
Probably the same type of leftist that have already cancelled her due to
a. Not Campaigning as a real ® Socialist back in June
b. Her interview about Palestine
c. The Mccain tweet
d. Her voting for the bill opening the government which included a line funding ICE. Also her tweet about ICE.

aka, they've already hated her from way back then.
 

torresregen

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Jan 13, 2019
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AOC has always been controlled opposition. No surprise to see her give pretence to the Omar smears. Her response to Corbyn was just as pathetic
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's absolutely no problem with critiquing AOC from the left, being that she's still on the right wing of socialism economically.

But she did the right thing in this case.
 

Doof

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AOC has always been controlled opposition. No surprise to see her give pretence to the Omar smears. Her response to Corbyn was just as pathetic

I'm glad that my feelings are completely invalid, you piece of shit. AOC actually understands how to behave around marginalized people, and actually cares about us, which is more than I can say for a significant part of the "left".
 

Linkura

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey, leftist Jews being upset about Omar's tweet is not bad faith backlash, and you can fuck all the way off with the assertion that it was. I am not in the mood to entertain your brain dead bullshit, so you should kindly shut the fuck up before you make an ass out of yourself. Go defend your fuckin incel anime horseshit or whatever it is you do when you're not regurgitating lukewarm chapo trap house hot takes. I have had enough of you people and your erasure of my people and our issues.
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My ignore list has gotten beefed up over the past few days. Not Jewish but what a great fucking takedown of all this bullshit.
 

Doof

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean your views are your views. But for most unbiased actors can see Omar was right and AOC has thrown her under the bus.

So I'm a ~~~biased actor~~~ because my fucking family was decimated by antisemitic violence, and I've spent my whole life dealing with the same bullshit dogwhistles about money that Omar looked like she was using, and because I was hurt, and because she apologized for causing hurt, and because AOC understands how to speak to a historically marginalized people instead of speaking over them, I'M the bad guy? Sorry, I don't know you, but you're a fucking monster.

Maybe you should log off, leave your fuckin dorito stained keyboard for once in your life, and talk to a real life Jewish person so that maybe you can one day understand a tenth of the pain that we've gone through. This Israel-Palestine shit is massively complicated, and as someone who is pro-Palestine, the way that idiots on both sides try to act like it's the simplest thing ever makes me sick to my stomach.
 

Linkura

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So I'm a ~~~biased actor~~~ because my fucking family was decimated by antisemitic violence, and I've spent my whole life dealing with the same bullshit dogwhistles about money that Omar looked like she was using, and because I was hurt, and because she apologized for causing hurt, and because AOC understands how to speak to a historically marginalized people instead of speaking over them, I'M the bad guy? Sorry, I don't know you, but you're a fucking monster.
This is why you're one of my fave posters, son.
 

torresregen

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Jan 13, 2019
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User Banned (permanent): trolling, account still in junior phase
Ah, yes. The Jewish bias, where being Jewish makes your opinion regarding Jewish people unreliable.

This is quality stuff here.
Where exactly have I said anything about jewish people? I was talking about Omar's comments which were directed at AIPAC
 

ak1287

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Oct 28, 2017
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Hey, leftist Jews being upset about Omar's tweet is not bad faith backlash, and you can fuck all the way off with the assertion that it was. I am not in the mood to entertain your brain dead bullshit, so you should kindly shut the fuck up before you make an ass out of yourself. Go defend your fuckin incel anime horseshit or whatever it is you do when you're not regurgitating lukewarm chapo trap house hot takes. I have had enough of you people and your erasure of my people and our issues.
Man, this shit right here.
Doof, I don't know you but I'm right there with you. The most painful part about this was being told, as a Jew, that I shouldn't be offended.
It feels like when, as a black man, I'm told I shouldn't be offended.
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
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So I'm a ~~~biased actor~~~ because my fucking family was decimated by antisemitic violence, and I've spent my whole life dealing with the same bullshit dogwhistles about money that Omar looked like she was using, and because I was hurt, and because she apologized for causing hurt, and because AOC understands how to speak to a historically marginalized people instead of speaking over them, I'M the bad guy? Sorry, I don't know you, but you're a fucking monster.
You're gonna catch a ban you don't deserve for someone who's gonna get their ass perm'd in about 4 months, but you're right to say it.
 

JustinP

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Oct 25, 2017
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Team sports political tribalism is toxic. Bad faith attacks from the right should be called out but that doesn't make it ok to use anti-semitic tropes, or to turn around and argue in bad faith that rep Omar only got flak for simply calling out AIPAC. A lot of people seem incapable of seeing things in shades of gray -- they think if one person is wrong, the other must be right, so it's all about arguing who is more wrong and then min/maxing it to make it a black and white binary comparison. This sort of thinking can happen on all sides even if well intended.

Political tribalism is one area where this happens a ton but it really does touch almost any aspect of society.
 
Jan 15, 2019
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I'd be very surprised if more than 5% of the electorate is meaningfully left of AOC. There is no need to worry about primarying her from the left.
 

devSin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Where exactly have I said anything about jewish people? I was talking about Omar's comments which were directed at AIPAC
You replied to somebody who has very clearly stated they were Jewish and repeatedly dismissed their own opinion on the situation.

If you want to say to a Jewish person that it's only their bias that causes them to reject your nonsense, go for it. Don't expect it to be celebrated here, though.
 

torresregen

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Jan 13, 2019
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To be fair, AOC probably has a higher approval rating in the UK than jeremy corbyn so this might be why his stans are mad
And Corbyn is way closer to power than she will ever be and is an actual leftist. I mean look at how successful Corbyn has been from turning the agenda from austerity to free tuition, renationalising everything, state run social media, recognising Palestine. While AOC is busy talking about a never happening green deal that achieves absolutely nothing and smearing the few people calling out AIPAC.
 

Vector

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Feb 28, 2018
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And Corbyn is way closer to power than she will ever be and is an actual leftist. I mean look at how successful Corbyn has been from turning the agenda from austerity to free tuition, renationalising everything, state run social media, recognising Palestine. While AOC is busy talking about a never happening green deal that achieves absolutely nothing and smearing the few people calling out AIPAC.
AOC has been in Congress for approximately one month. Your intellectual dishonesty is showing.
 

ratcliffja

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm glad that for the most part, I can avoid adding people to my ignore list from here because I can be fairly confident they'll be banned shortly anyway.
 

Ithil

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If you ever claim that you alone are an "unbiased actor" but others aren't if they don't agree with your narrow claims, you're a twit who should be promptly ignored.
 

torresregen

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Jan 13, 2019
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You replied to somebody who has very clearly stated they were Jewish and repeatedly dismissed their own opinion on the situation.

If you want to say to a Jewish person that it's only their bias that causes them to reject your nonsense, go for it. Don't expect it to be celebrated here, though.
The person above replied to me. My original comment was about my objection to AOC smearing Omar.

It's sad to see the depths that some will go to smear the only two muslim congresswomen. Islamaphobia is still a massive problem in America unfortunately
 
Jan 15, 2019
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And Corbyn is way closer to power than she will ever be and is an actual leftist. I mean look at how successful Corbyn has been from turning the agenda from austerity to free tuition, renationalising everything, state run social media, recognising Palestine. While AOC is busy talking about a never happening green deal that achieves absolutely nothing and smearing the few people calling out AIPAC.
I was gonna go through a point by point breakdown of this, but I think I'll just say that you're out of your depth here. What you just posted makes so little sense, and you seem so unaware of how little sense it makes, that I don't think it's worth the effort.
 

Autodidact

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Oct 25, 2017
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And Corbyn is way closer to power than she will ever be and is an actual leftist. I mean look at how successful Corbyn has been from turning the agenda from austerity to free tuition, renationalising everything, state run social media, recognising Palestine. While AOC is busy talking about a never happening green deal that achieves absolutely nothing and smearing the few people calling out AIPAC.
LMAO

His biggest achievement is coming second in an election and having no real power.
 

Pixieking

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And Corbyn is way closer to power than she will ever be and is an actual leftist. I mean look at how successful Corbyn has been from turning the agenda from austerity to free tuition, renationalising everything, state run social media, recognising Palestine.

Except Corbyn's anti-globalisation/pro-Brexit leanings have fucked-over the UK as well as any chance Labour has of winning a GE on anything other than "At least they're not the fucking Conservatives".

 

Snake

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Oct 25, 2017
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The person above replied to me. My original comment was about my objection to AOC smearing Omar.

It's sad to see the depths that some will go to smear the only two muslim congresswomen. Islamaphobia is still a massive problem in America unfortunately

Thanks for letting everyone know that you're purely a bad faith troll. Honesty is always a virtue.
 

gutter_trash

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Oct 26, 2017
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Except Corbyn's anti-globalisation/pro-Brexit leanings have fucked-over the UK as well as any chance Labour has of winning a GE on anything other than "At least they're not the fucking Conservatives".


naturally, young Brits are pro-EU and are against Brexit. Their future is at stake

but you got nutjob Corbyn who is in his heart in favor of Brexit fucking over those young people's future
 
Jan 15, 2019
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I almost fucking died
To be fair, there are maybe a few hundred people suggesting this in a country of 325 million. Statistically, basically no one is suggesting it.
I think Cuomo would appoint someone from upstate to replace Gillibrand
Maybe, but I think as soon as people recognize the seat's open there'll be a huge groundswell of people wanting him to appoint AOC, and he's shown himself willing to give in to pressure from the left. And, like, it would be very dumb not to unless the democratic party still, in two years, wants to pretend she and the dem socialists are not the party's future.
 

Pixieking

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naturally, young Brits are pro-EU and are against Brexit. Their future is at stake

but you got nutjob Corbyn who is in his heart in favor of Brexit fucking over those young people's future

Yup. All the "But he's a true socialist/Leftist" arguments in the world don't matter when mostly everyone under the age of 30 knows being in the EU is better than being out of it.
 
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