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US PoliERA 2019 |OT1| You down wit' NDP? (Yeah you know me!) Who's down wit' AOC? (This whole party!)
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It's even spicier because Mueller didn't say they were totally wrong. So they're calling him out and asking for the specifics.
Buzzfeed seems adamant enough that there has to be something fishy going on here
A backfire like this pretty much kills your credibility forever with how large of a story this is.
A backfire like this pretty much kills your credibility forever with how large of a story this is.
I'm not sure what it matters right now either way. I don't think the Special Council will clarify their statement. I don't think Buzzfeed News will be able to 100% confirm the veracity of their reporting either way. The only thing that actually has a chance of having any impact in terms of impeachment proceedings, etc. is Mueller's report. That was the case before the news broke yesterday, and that's still the case today, even if the Buzzfeed News article is 100% accurate.
Those are my thoughts as well. BuzzFeed's report is its report and the sepcial council's statement is going to be its statement for the time being.
No question the SC will not issue a clarification. This isn't a debate, and I think BF are silly to expect a back and forth dialogue with Mueller.
Its actually possible for both to be right given the nature of how FBI investigators function, and especially one like this where they won't say anything on the subject matter till they are ready to report. For instance if its not something they have publicly acknowledged but could be deliberating internally they will likely state any position of guilt or conclusion into pieces of evidence to be false. They are likely disputing buzzfeed mischaracterized their evidence, as evidence of a specific intent since that is not a characterization they have made publicly yet and will not till they file a public report. They are speaking out at this time because they also know the implication of what was stated and they dont want those conclusions to be something they claimed at this time.
We keep speculating that Trump's people have been spreading the "Mueller's almost done" rumors but what are the odds that they're actually coming from SDNY leakers who are itchy to finish the investigation because they think they have all the evidence they need? They've proven to be super leaky between the Clinton stuff and now this. It would explain why the press keeps reporting it because they assume that these claims might be valid.
My thinking then is this is not a controlled leak at all and Mueller is fucking pissed.
A fucking airtight ship sprung a leak and he is fucking mad as hell.
A fucking airtight ship sprung a leak and he is fucking mad as hell.
If it leaked it wasn't directly from special counsel but from SDNY or a paper pusher between all the players. I am actually impressed with how well they have kept leaks out of the media.
Ben Smith on Maddow: their sources on the story stand by Buzzfeed's reporting post-publication. *shrug emoji*
This is like a prime case to de-anonymize your source, when they outright threaten the safety of the 2nd in line to the presidency
I was thinking of making a post taking bets
SHS? Miller? That Hogan guy with the weird hair?
I think Mueller trusts Barr then though to not fuck anything up. It'll all come out in due time.
I still think that Mueller needed to pump the brakes on all the impeachment talk. Members of Congress had started talking about wanting Mueller to give out info prematurely so they could start impeachment proceedings. He's not done and the accusations were too close to what was going on with Nixon and actually what Clinton was impeached for.
This is an amazing response that makes the detractors look absolutely terrible.
Her choice during that time (and especially this followup) should make people like her more, not less.
There is no fucking reason why she needs to explain what she did to misogynist pigs. Good response though.
No, my first mistake was back in 2016 when I put too much faith in America to do the right thing. And now we have a career criminal grifter with NPD causing chaos every damn day with no end in sight.
Yeah, that's a pretty thorough response. Hard to take issue with her rationale.
You pretty much HAVE to be a misogynist to take issue with what she did in the first place though.
The detractors are terrible, but this is an amazing response. Really brings the issue out of the world of politics and into the day to day reality she needs to message in if she is going to win the presidency. She isn't the biggest personality/name running but if she can master giving answers like this it won't matter.
The only tiniest negative is If she said this the first time during a debate, it would have got her more shine for it. I highly doubt any Democrat would have have challenged on this, but if they did, this would have been a dagger. If it's her in the general election, Trump will, of course, run full speed into because.....he's an idiot.
Description. Specific. Characterization. Accurate. The only thing I take from that statement is: "That shit didn't come from us, slow your roll folks.". The core of the story is true, but don't take BF as gospel, wait for our report. It was a statement directed at House Dems telling them to HOLD.
I think she will definitely punch above her weight class, so to speak, but if she were to get the nomination I think what excites me most is that it would free up an opportunity for AOC to run for (and probably easily win) a senate seat.
Mueller would never set out a controlled leak. He can't risk jeopardizing the public's trust in his work like that.
We obviously won't know Buzzfeed's sources, but I think the chances they are in Mueller's camp is very low.
He also said they ran the story by the SC and asked for a statement and they declined to respond.
In other, disputed reporting ...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-idUSKCN1PD02B
Except we do know. The leak is from SDNY (who's investigating Trump's criminal syndicate in parallel with the SCO's investigation).
If they want to keep doubling down on their 30% base with no thought to independents in swing states, then so be it.
It's a GOP tradition whenever there's a March for Life march. Don't read into it.
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