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US PoliERA 2019 |OT1| You down wit' NDP? (Yeah you know me!) Who's down wit' AOC? (This whole party!)
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Trump campaign colluded
Trump also colluded
But Trump has multiple personality disorder and it was only just one of his many personalities that did the colluding so it's not the Presidents fault when he's actually himself he's not capable of collusion and is very tough on Russia
Trump campaign colluded
Trump also colluded
But Trump has multiple personality disorder and it was only just one of his many personalities that did the colluding so it's not the Presidents fault when he's actually himself he's not capable of collusion and is very tough on Russia
I sometimes wonder when seeing stuff like this if Lindsey playing the long con and doing evil in the short term to get close enough to Trump and his inner circle to politically lead Trump to failure.
Rebecca Ballhaus @rebeccaballhaus
Giuliani response to Buzzfeed story: "Haven't checked it out but if you believe Cohen I can get you a good all cash deal on the Brooklyn Bridge?"
Then added, "Also why does SDNY say he is not telling the whole truth, ask him about his father in law," before liking his own text.
Giuliani response to Buzzfeed story: "Haven't checked it out but if you believe Cohen I can get you a good all cash deal on the Brooklyn Bridge?"
Then added, "Also why does SDNY say he is not telling the whole truth, ask him about his father in law," before liking his own text.
He is 100% doing this and setting himself up quite well to win a future republican primary
Said it before. Senator Starscream
I think they still have to wait for Robert Mueller's report that is said to have cooberating evidence of this, instead of just taking Michael Cohen's word for it.
I mean, with this out in the public, maybe the House should question him about it. Perhaps there's legal reasons they don't want to step on Mueller's investigation, but, uh, letting Trump coast with this known feels wrong.
This is HUGE.
Doesn't matter if this gets lost a few news cycles from now. This is clear obstruction of justice related to the Russian investigation. End stop. And it's a Federal crime committed against Congress. Will the GOP Senators really "hand-wave" the President directing people to lie to Congress? They can try initially but once the Mueller report is released and this clear crime is listed along with Trump's other wrong-doings, it will be extremely hard to ignore without them certifying it's okay for the President to commit crimes and direct people to lie to Congress. It would be a terrible precedent.
This news alone is impeachment worthy. But we all know this isn't the only witness Trump leaned on. He assumed Congress would always be in his pocket so there would be no consequences for instructing people to lie to them. But we could end up in a situation where Trump leaned on or instructed a half-dozen witnesses to lie to Congress. The GOP will be faced with defending a criminal going into the 2020 election and all the fall-out that will entail (including potentially losing the Senate) or cutting ties with him and starting fresh. I could easily see the GOP machine making the determination that Trump is damaged goods and they'll have the Fox News and other media apparatuses start turning on him to gradually condition the Trump base that he's corrupt and needs to be jettisoned out of the airlock.
Lindsay keeping himself close to guys like McCain was functionally no different than what he's doing here
It's just that before Lindsay thought that moderating was the best way forward for the GOP to win long term and it was the far right base that made them adapt crazy positions that hurt them on the national level
But Lindsay's seeing that maybe if you dial the crazy up to 11 you can get the rural waves you need more often than they previously thought possible
People forget he ran for POTUS last cycle. He's ambitious
Mentioned this a couple times but I remember Al Franken ( I know, I know) said in 2016 to Lindsay that if he could vote for anyone in the GOP primary it would be him. To which Lindsay said "I know and that's my problem"
A problem he's fixed I think
Even the ghost of Warren Harding thinks that Trump is a special blend of stupid and corrupt.
I'm still thinking he'll finish. He might get impeached and that process might start, but his crimes are so complicated the actual trial will take years. And he's so damn egotistical he'll never step down.
So the phrase Rudy was going for is that he's got a bridge in a desert or ocean view property in Kansas or whatever. But the Brooklyn Bridge is just a real bridge.
This is like the Happy/Shooter exchange in Happy Gilmore:
Happy: "I'm gonna win this whole thing."
Shooter: "Yeah, and Grizzly Adams had a beard."
Bystander: "Grizzly Adams did have a beard."
Bernie is a hot mess and tbh he's not going to withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny this time around. He was reputationally saved by his voting record (obviously vital) but more noisily by the travesty of the entire election. I'm genuinely surprised he's going for it again, because he's not really the person his honest supporters think he is (much who I thought he was during the primary and generously still believe is buried under ego and ambition) and he's completely failed to address those problems - which in some ways is worse than having them in the first place. Even the worst carpetbagger in the lineup - Tulsi Gabbard, had the sense to make a mealy mouthed mea culpa and try to get ahead of the inevitable scrutiny (the two of them would be the most stunningly bad ticket possible) but Bernie can't seem to understand that opportunity.
If Bernie came out and said, "Look, I realize my campaign last time was eventually massively compromised by bad actors - I want to tell you that I realize that and want to sterilize that and the problematic support it garnered. And I want to win, but ultimately support whoever can fix this shit" then I'd even take another look at him, even over the raised salutes of the deep-Bros and the already visibly resurgent dishonest support) but he's encouraging it. He needs the momentum. He needs the bad numbers too to emerge from the pack. He will NOT abandon them unless he gets the nom. And I He's basically got all the issue Biden has, from race to age to mythos, but none of the positive momentum or potential ticket-amplification. I wish him well, and I hope he can use his platform as a voice for change, or push. But damn if he hasn't blown two chances now. If he goes deeper with his baggage, then I will have to start wondering if there was ever anything honest in there.
If we were ever going to have a crazy old white working class icon, I wanted Barney Frank tbh.
Trump rn: "obstructing justice is not collusion! There is no collusion!"
I thought this was kind of a silly thing to point out. Why would someone who lies constantly care about lying on a tv show? I don't think he phrased it the way he did in order to avoid lying, he was just babbling as usual.
I thought this was kind of a silly thing to point out. Why would someone who lies constantly care about lying on a tv show? I don't think he phrased it the way he did in order to avoid lying, he was just babbling as usual.
It will be waved away by the right because the source is Buzzfeed.
Right before the drop.
Thats fine. But all things being considered, they may try to waive but it may not work this time.
Some news folk and legal pundits seem to be swayed by the severity of "oh shit, there's an actual factual crime being mentioned now so we can't shrug as easily as before."
Began with the wall, gonna end with the wall.
Oooh boiiii we might get a dem trifecta here in Michigan in 2020?
If we win every seat in AZ,CO,GA,IA,ME and NC what will our numbers be then?
These two are good!
There was a conman named George C. Parker who used to sell the Brooklyn Bridge to people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker
Lol, implying it wouldn't be waved away if it had come from anywhere else.
They'll wave it away because they don't care. Period. They got their guy, and they'll do anything and everything to keep him.
Something tells me Cohen is going to have to appear before the House now whether he wants to or not...
Because Buzzfeed has something that works like the old Newspaper model: use a proven cash-generator to subsidize the prestigious investigative journalism. For newspapers it was classifieds, for Buzzfeed it's clickbait.
But anyway, let's go back to those 2020 polls, because I have no faith in the GOP to do the right thing here. Ever.
He's already booked for an open hearing in 3 weeks, after being cleared by Muller on what stuff cannot be discussed. He volunteered for it, I believe.
Rudy is the embodiment of the "I have the worst fucking attorneys" gif
He's testifying on the 7th and I believe behind closed doors about Russia
Yes, but there was reporting tonight that he might be thinking about backing out. My point is that at this point he will probably be subpoena'd if he tried to back out.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mic...an-to-testify-to-congress-adviser-says-2019-1
The twist being potentially backing out due to fear of the president, who has been applying pressure according to Cohen.
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