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antonz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,309

The aircraft carrier is the symbol of American power – 90,000 tons of diplomacy, the Navy likes to say. Almost all of them are named after presidents – until Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly broke with tradition.

That's Miller as in Dorie Miller. The next aircraft carrier to be built will be named for the grandson of slaves and a son of sharecroppers. The official announcement is on Monday, Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, at Pearl Harbor. Miller was born in Waco, Texas – and his first name was actually Doris.

Miller has just finished serving breakfast, and was sorting laundry when the West Virginia was hit by nine Japanese torpedoes and two bombs. Miller was ordered to the bridge to evacuate the ship's captain, who lay mortally wounded.

As the air attack continued, against all rules, Miller manned a .50-caliber Browning anti-aircraft machine gun and fired on the Japanese planes. He also helped carry and move injured sailors to safety.

"The irony of this is that, back in the '40s, pre-World War II, African Americans were not allowed to have any jobs where they handled machine guns or any type of lethal force," said Modly.
Pleasant surprise out of the Navy on the next Carrier. Managed not to name it Trump or an equally horrible name.
 

Kinthey

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
22,275
Miller has just finished serving breakfast, and was sorting laundry when the West Virginia was hit by nine Japanese torpedoes and two bombs. Miller was ordered to the bridge to evacuate the ship's captain, who lay mortally wounded.

As the air attack continued, against all rules, Miller manned a .50-caliber Browning anti-aircraft machine gun and fired on the Japanese planes. He also helped carry and move injured sailors to safety.

I had no idea his character was based on a real person
 

DigitalOp

Member
Nov 16, 2017
9,277
Fantastic name to celebrate someone who overwhelmingly showed up for duty when they had no need to
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
It would not shock me at all for Trump to force a name change if he catches wind of it.
 

sangreal

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,890
Cool, but don't be surprised if Trump tries to stop it. See: Tubman
Almost all of them are named after presidents – until Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly broke with tradition.

I would call it a trend more than a tradition. Historically the vast majority are not named after Presidents
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
The push back on this will be quite the show.


I doubt there'll be much mainstream conversation but I'ma help them with a messaging shortcut,

"Of course we should celebrate the sacrifices of colored folk but it's also important to respect the naming traditions of navy vessels and an aircraft carrier, per rules outlined in section 1531 must follow certain guidelines - The vessels of the Navy shall be named by the Secretary of the Navy under direction of the President according to the following rule: Sailing-vessels of the first class shall be named after the States of the Union, those of the second class after the rivers, those of the third class after the principal cities and towns and those of the fourth class as the President may direct. While exceptions may be made for Senators only frigates may be named after NCOs, enlisted men or Thugs, Dehumanizing Student Athletes, Cadillac Welfare Queens, Octaroons and below. Aircraft Carriers must be named after battles, with the exception of the Kennedy and Enterprise and the proposed Hyper Starcarrier, USS The Donald.

We wish there was a way to make an exception but president Trump as you know is a strict traditionalist on these matters. And has even declined a ship in honor of the late congressman John Dingell, but only because he is possibly in hell*" - Whitehouse.gov


* many people are saying
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,446
Countdown till Trump takes credit somehow?
He won't because its one less carrier that could carry his name, he will hate it.

Now if it was
latest

Trump would try to pull all the funding out.
 

Hey Please

Avenger
Oct 31, 2017
22,824
Not America
Stephen Miller's gonna whisper in those fecal infested orange ear canals, soon.

Should the naming go without a hitch, then good on the Navy.
 

Blue Skies

Banned
Mar 27, 2019
9,224
Y'all dumb to think there'll be pushback for this.


This is the type of thing they use to say they're not racist
 

Br3wnor

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,982
Y'all dumb to think there'll be pushback for this.


This is the type of thing they use to say they're not racist

Exactly, if anything Trump will lean into it and say how great it is to show how not racist he is.

Otherwise very happy with the move, from what I read his story played a pretty big part in getting the Navy integrated.
 

Beef Supreme

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,073
To be honest, I did not know this guy was real. I only knew the bullet points of the attack and that movie always came across as 100% bullshit. That's awesome that it's not only real, but that this hero of our country gets recognized for it.

" I need u like Ben Affleck needs acting school
He was terrible in that film
I need u like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part
He's way better than Ben Affleck "
 

Blue Skies

Banned
Mar 27, 2019
9,224
Trump.

And Racists. White supremacists. The degenerates that support him. Which comprise a large portion of every branch in the US military.

Did you miss the freak out over Harriet Tubman or something?

Trump support in the military perfectly aligns with the gender ratios (male support for trump in the civilian population and military population is like 55-60 percent, female support for trump is more like 30-35 percent) just so happens that there's more men in the military.
If it was 50-50 it'd be exactly the same as gen pop


Hate the anti-military-member comments on here all the time.
 

Loudninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
42,191
Y'all dumb to think there'll be pushback for this.


This is the type of thing they use to say they're not racist

Nah. As others have said, trump will
Use this as a 'see, I'm not racist' tactic.

If it's military related, they do generally support their own. I don't think that Trump is that stupid, but who knows.
When has Trump ever care about that shit? where is this stuff coming from.
 

DarthWoo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,658
My family went on a tour of the Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate Knox class destroyer escort that previously bore his name back in the 90s. This is definitely a step up, and a well deserved one.

Edit: Wrong class.
 
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