US may not be back to normal until 2022, Fauci says
Nationwide, the average number of daily new cases this past week is up 21% compared to the previous week. But testing has increased only 6.63% over the same time frame.
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US may not be back to normal until 2022, Fauci says
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There have been far more deadly pandemics in the past that didn't change what "normal" was. There is no reason to believe covid-19 will change much or anything. Once a vaccine is widely available you will see packed clubs and bars and concerts again.
Whether it's a year from now or 5 normal will eventually return. Why deny that?
I think you're both right, if you see this in the short and long term.
In the short term (1/2 years?) we will need to get used to the new normal. Whatever this shit is, it's going to last a while longer and we should try to consider this the new normality... for our sanity's sake.
In the longer term (3 years? optimistically) this may just become a bad memory and we will likely be back to pre-covid gatherings and behavior.
At least, this is what I'm trying to convince myself of to still keep a cautious behavior right now, but avoid falling into depression for what life has become :/
Maybe a good time to ask but can you get an airfare refund if the USA has a current ban on travel to that country? Hedged my bets on a trip next Spring but not looking likely now.
When your point hedges on "1918 flu, AIDs, and The Plague didn't change the game", cause those are the ones that come close to COVID.
I had this sober realization weeks, if not months ago. I likely won't be visiting my beloved library or seeing my nieces and nephews -- or at least not on a regular basis -- anytime soon thanks to every last selfish asshole who can't be arsed to wear a mask, let alone grasp how your "personal freedom" means nothing in the face of an infectious disease.
Everything about this makes me so goddamn angry. Fuck every last individual in power that enabled this.
Everything about this makes me so goddamn angry. Fuck every last individual in power that enabled this.
No one has explained to me, since this started, what it takes to be normal again. My sister told me normal may never happen again. Starting to believe her.
Plague and 1918 were far more impactful. In fact, the attitude back then was the same: some didn't care and just got drunk at bars while others quarantined.
Covid-19 isn'tt going to change the normal. All it did was speed up things like WFH (which was increasing anyway), and we will see changes in how we respond to pandemics (like how we have with each one). There is no reason to believe things will permanently change when history has shown that to be false.
I don't see why tbh. Vaccines will come out, we'll continue to understand the virus and how to mitigate it and things will eventually return to normal. I highly doubt we'll still be in this predicament years and years from now.
At least...if Trump is gone...
There's not going to be a normal, as in what things were in 2019. There's going to be something very different in a lot of small ways, and probably in a few big ways.
This, really. This is reality. Now we just have to deal with it.
The vaccine is just another freedom that you can't force people to take.
I'm sure there will be sham doctors ready to write out fake vaccination records for their freedum clients.
I'm not sure why people think this. If people are already coming back to normal like it was before even while the pandemic is still happening what makes you think people won't be doing the same when this is over? It makes no sense.
Yeah no way this was going to be fixed entirely by next year. And just like y'all said, Trump getting reelected will only add more time to that hypothetical clock.
Should we return to normal? I mean, normal resulted in massive amounts of needless deaths; normal elected Trump; normal is loads of people who are anti-mask and anti-vaccine. We need a cultural awakening a la Japan's reaction to 1918, but we know that won't happen because individualism (read: selfishess) is hailed as one of the cornerstones of Western democracy. It's foolish to assume the release of a vaccine tons of people won't even take will usher in "normal."
Well I don't want to be pessimistic, I hope this shit is over asap, I lost family to it. But really, all it took is one bat, one human. This shit could start all over tomorrow. It's just a matter of bad luck, and what can protect us onward is learning, educating ourselves. There is too little of this and it is becoming a socio-economic threat, let alone in preparing us for other potential crises in the future like the fall out of climate change. Look at how little cooperation there has been among countries in the EU of all places.
Some things are changing, especially how we view social-cohesion and its resiliency, or lack-thereof.
This. The pandemic has revealed another disease, which we contemplate but for which so far no solution has been offered. Where is the outrage about the lack of education, the lack of willingness to work together, the lack of the government's ability to organize society in times of crisis to face challenges while we can?
Back to normal, and then what? Another bat bite, and this all over again?
This depends on vaccine distribution and efficacy. The more effective the vaccine the less people need to be vaccinated for it to hit herd immunity.
So let's hope for a real good one.
So let's hope for a real good one.
100% in line with what I thought. Vaccines/therapeutics not available til maybe late spring - need time to disseminate to others + hopefully a different administration in power who will balance a safe reopening that won't kill the economy, with science. It's about a balance.
It's going to be at least 3 years for things to be normal over there, sorry to say. Victoria, Australia are just coming out of a 6 month lockdown and our cases and the logistics to solve this is nowhere near what it is in the US.
5-10 years before "normal" returns imo (eating out, large crowds, frequent air travel). That said, too many variables in the future to tell for sure. Idiots keep being idiots so I don't have much hope for 2022. Spring/Summer 2022 was what I was hoping for about three months ago.
I will have graduated from university in a crappy online format, taken an entire year off that I didn't want to take off due to COVID, and then completed at least my first half of a year of medical school in the same crappy online format if that's the case. Sounds dreadful, which judging by how everything has gone recently, probably means it's reality.
it depends on how fast a vacine is adobted. if it comes out mid 2021, and has high uptake, it could be 2022, if not, than longer.
I have decent hopes for a vaccine. I have far less optimism for adoption rates given the already large, entrenched gaggle of anti-vaxxers.
Normal is now. It isn't going to get better than this in a lot of places.
There aren't enough anti vaxxers to make a serious difference in this case.