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US forces in Iraq under attack from Iranian cruise missiles. [IMPORTANT STAFF POST]
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It was either this or an all caps REIGN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION tweet from a year ago and I'd much prefer this.
Well, this concluded Iran's overt response. They still can wreak plenty of havoc ambiguously through proxies, but they decided to have a military response for this as well. This isn't the end of things, even if the US doesn't respond.
So the attacks don't seem to have killed any US personnel (but perhaps casualties for poor Iraqis stuck in the middle)...and Iran gets to save face by claiming they retaliated in self defense under UN conventions? Welp. It's a nice out for the US to pack up and leave, but Trump is a narcissistic asshole, so I wouldn't be surprised if he declares war over Twitter tomorrow 🙄
The US will likely still be kicked out of Iraq. Trump and the US military ambitions lost here.
Iran had the nerve to attack though, which he said they wouldn't, his gloating can be halted almost immediately.
Someone talked him off the brink. Incredible. This is a man whose personal motto is if someone hits you, punch back twice as hard. Now he's trying to dismiss the loss as nothing. (Which it honestly was for taking out the adversary's No. 2.)
So far this is all pretty textbook. No US casualties because Iran didn't want any. Everyone saves face and life goes on.
Unless Trump fucks it up.
Unless Trump fucks it up.
IMO whether Iran will be able to see today's events as a win will all depend on if they can convince the Iranian population that this was a proper, successful response which might be hard to do if word comes out that indeed no American blood was spilled (providing those reports are true of course). And that's also providing Trump doesn't retaliate anyway.
That's also quite likely. This was the public "saving face" show of force to de-escalate tensions.
The actual revenge will come later.
They've been doing that for years though. But it's obvious no war with Iran is coming.
Lol first thing that came to mind.Trump saying "all is well" when we're within inches of an American-Iranian war is truly a Baghdad Bob moment
This was not a win in any way if you really assess the current geopolitical situation. US looks really fucking dumb putting the entire region in the cusp of war, their soft power is at an all time low, Putin is laughing his ass off, Iran will put it's Quds operations into overdrive, Iran's entire population is unified, and Iraq wants the US out.
This was a huge own goal, Suleimani got more than he could've dreamed of by getting assassinated. It puts US personel and operational ability from Lebanon to Pakistan at varying levels of jeopardy.
I say Trump co-wrote that Tweet. It´s crazy enough.
China´s and India´s military got the US beat btw who cares who would win:
China´s and India´s military got the US beat btw who cares who would win:
Nah, he sleeps till 14:00 usually. They told him this was important, though, so the crack of noon it is. All is well, after all.
I just don't know what Shia vs Sunni shit has to do with American lives.
Can't we just let them figure this shit out themselves, and only use diplomacy instead of war?
Can't we just let them figure this shit out themselves, and only use diplomacy instead of war?
The tone makes absolutely no sense. Either he didn't write this and someone tried to make it sound like him, or he's on drugs.
Some of our bases got fucked and there may have been injuries.
So far so good!
Da fuck?
from what i've read, old man trump wakes around 5 am every day, but then he has "executive time" until like noon
executive time means he watches cable news (especially fox) and browses twitter
I think when people say this is a "win" for Trump they mean more for him personally (and his political power within the US itself) and not so much the long-term implications of the wider events. He and his goons will eat this shit up. "We killed their general and they did nothing."
Just go play golf.
I'm sorry I gave you shit about that, seriously, just go hit some balls and forget about this whole thing.
It's because he didn't send that. He doesn't talk like that at all.
Sounds like the best possible outcome. We killed one of their top generals...Iran had to "save face" so-to-say. From what it sounds like it seems they intentionally targeted places where causalities are minimal to none (which doesn't always mean death, injuries are casualties as well). From what Iran's saying this is basically their response and they will not escalate further if we don't.
EDIT: Of course the situation could always take a turn for the worse if our current administration escalates further.
EDIT: Of course the situation could always take a turn for the worse if our current administration escalates further.
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I mean the best possible outcome seems like it would be we stop fucking killing each other at all but sure okay.
so has anyone decided to differentiate between suuni militias and jihadist wahhabi fundamentalists yet...
that's the main point of concern right now. We're literally waiting on how Trump decides to respond to this, which is probably exactly what he wanted. The decision is in his hands now and he pretty much determines the fate of Iran within the next 48 hours. The moron is probably sleeping with a full belly in his jammies by now and will be up in the morning with a huge ugly grin on his face.
What? Why. That is ridiculous. Humor in the face of adversity can be incredibly healing. Why stifle the thread to just doom and gloom and uneducated guesses at the situation by random forum people.
Tweet reminded me of "The Dead speak!" part of the opening TRoS crawl...Trump saying "all is well" when we're within inches of an American-Iranian war is truly a Baghdad Bob moment
You know the answer to this...
Get me on my soapbox stating that every time this country uses force (which is a violation of the U.N. Charter except in specific situations, such as self-defense), it needs to explain against whom, why, where, when, how, and for how long... oh, and under what specific legal authorities.
I feel like that sentence should be attached to the end of literally every single official statement from the US government.
"All is well"
wth. what a bizzare twist.
wth. what a bizzare twist.
I could swear his name was comical aliTrump saying "all is well" when we're within inches of an American-Iranian war is truly a Baghdad Bob moment
His hour was basically "Trump is a dove that doesn't want war, the left politicizes war, but we should bomb the shit out of their oil fields."
Oh that it is Obama's fault, too.
"Largest army" doesn't mean much. Iraq had a larger army than the US in the Gulf War, it was swiftly defeated. China is actually actively reducing the size of its army to make it smaller, more mobile, professional fighting force.