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US forces in Iraq under attack from Iranian cruise missiles. [IMPORTANT STAFF POST]
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Dude swore he was Mr Anti War. This is folly. I'm no fan of Iran but there's a way to deal with them without continuing to destabilize the region.
Meanwhile John Bolton is in a room somewhere just massively ejaculating...
No good will come of this.
Meanwhile John Bolton is in a room somewhere just massively ejaculating...
No good will come of this.
How to you expect a country to react when you openly declare war on them?
It's not like their highest military general and 2nd leader got assassinated or something. Or is it?
Iran isn't some pushover that we could just bomb the hell out of with no repercussions.
I broke this news to my supervisor. Her response?
"I can't wait to leave this world and take my kids with me — looking forward to nuclear armageddon!"
She wasn't kidding. She's a Trump supporter and she's loving this.
This is America
"I can't wait to leave this world and take my kids with me — looking forward to nuclear armageddon!"
She wasn't kidding. She's a Trump supporter and she's loving this.
This is America
Exactly.
Invading Iran is invading an economy the size of Texas with nearly 3 times the population and more than twice as much area to cover with 10 times the logistical issues. This ignores that this would almost certainly lead to a cascading series of events that would incite massive conflict in the region. Nearly every probable scenario would result in the deaths of millions as a result of the conflict and its secondary impacts. You cannot sell this to America's allies when the resulting conflicts would send hundreds of thousands of refugees to Europe.
I think they also know that the US is tired of war. Maybe this is my being optimistic about my country but I think if Trump goes to war then he loses in a landslide.
multiple waves of misile strikes on American bases doesnt feel very "assymetric" to me.
true enough; but I can't imagine the spin needed to make him do this AND make it look good for him.
Saudi Arabia and Israel, both of which are already in the region.
I'm not really wanting to get into this chest beating contest but the U.S. handily dismantled a very large and modern Iraqi army in Desert Storm without any real effort. Under no circumstances would anyone try a land invasion of Iran or to occupy it. It would just be a dismantling of their military capability until they (hopefully) press for peace.
The Allies thought the same of George W, but still followed him into an illegal war. Decades of military cooperation won't be held back because Trump is twitter troll.
Wasn't one of Trump's campaign promises that he wouldn't go into another stupid war?]
But then, Trumpers hate brown people so any excuse to kill them is a win, I suppose.
Most of them want to literally watch the world burn from my experience.
You think this is all on Trump? It's the Pentagon, the one that's there no matter what asshole sits in the white house. Trump is just the puppet to give his ok. Fuck them instead.
its so scary, there are no rational people on this administration.
Indeed. I cannot believe there are people in this thread actually boasting/pridefully making remarks about the destructive capabilities of an army or crushing a country, when they should be absolutely horrified that it has come to this, where two nations will be at war with each other, and there could be countless collateral damage as a result.
Fuck.
Shit, I was in Al Asad on my last deployment to Iraq last year. Crazy how shit can fly off like this.
Yes, it'll be measured disproportionately against cultural civilian targets. - his OWN fucking words in context.
Does the US need an occupation? Haven't there been bouts of civil unrest in Iran for the last decade? Wasn't Sulemani the guy in charge of crushing those protests?
That, and the younger generations have never lived through a "declared" war. I wonder how unnerving it is for them...or if it feels real at all.
Carrier groups still have an effective range of roughly 1250 nautical miles. Putting aside anti air capabilities for sortied craft there isn't a safe distance at which the USN would be able to attack with impunity.
The practical advantage of american military tech is much smaller then the expenditure gap would lead one to believe
UAE would get wrecked if those air crafts do end up hitting Iran. Bad move.
Unless ICBM's get involved, Trump is a fucking moron that has a boner for the US' nuclear arsenal so that's a combo that fucking terrifies me.
I remember reading something a while ago about the US putting a bill through or something to prevent the president from having the power to do something like that anyway though so... hopefully that's the case.
Oh fuck. I hope they aren't sending our pilots in to Iranian air space.
These people existing makes it so hard for me to want to continue.
If bush and obama had not expanded their executive powers and subverted congressiona authority, yes
Love reading insightful posts from posters educated on the matter.
This isn't one of them.
American evangelicals are a legitimate doomsday cult. They pine for the end of the world so they can go to their kingdom in the sky. It's why they love things like Israel - They know it brings us closer to bigger, maybe even nuclear, conflicts.
All the shit they attack Muslim extremists for, they are guilty of themselves. Just in the name of a different religion.