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US forces in Iraq under attack from Iranian cruise missiles. [IMPORTANT STAFF POST]
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This will probably get under Trump's skin more than anything else, because he's just that petty.
Yes because killing each other is a fucking competition now.
Get a fucking grip.
Iran more capable than iraq and Afghanistan, and after 20 years we still in both countries and cant leave.
Iran may get their butts kicked in a war with the USA but you have to realize we will likely lose 10s of thousands of our own fighting a country that china and russia will back in a war.
People actually think a boots on the ground situation in Iran is possible? No.. just no. Go pull out an atlas and take in what Iran is for 10 minutes.
It would make the Vietnam War seem quaint, short and clean.
It's not like the US has been some arbiter of moral good before Trump was elected.
Can't without nukes. We probably don't have the air power in the region yet to do sustained heavy bombing (I think we just have one carrier group and then whatever's in Iraq/Saudi Arabia/Kuwait). Even in Iraq Saddam kept power for years after being bombed.
US can hurt Iran a lot but there will be a good number of US causalities in any sustained engagement.
Nations at war with each other throwing Twitter shade at each other.
I want a new reality please.
You need a citation of the military might difference? If we're talking just straight head to head, the US has more firepower currently parked in the Strait than Iran has as an entire country.
The most important factor here is going to be "have Americans died?"
The next will be Trump's state of mind, if his inherent cowardice will make him pull back or double down.
You know like 99% of US military equipment was designed to fight an enemy like Russia and China.
They spend ridiculous money on stuff that was absolutely useless against stuff like guys in caves or hiding with the citizens.
The B2 and F22s for example
US is absolutely fucked if they want an occupation though, never gonna be successful
I hope US citizens still backing Trump in any way shape or form whatsoever, do understand that right now, the US won't even have allies anywhere in the world, Europe included? Trump has been insulting and condescending everywhere he went, European leaders and citizens alike despise him and think he's a gigantic buffoon, so if y'all think you're gonna get the support of your usual allies in this shit war Trump started by himself, I'm afraid to tell you that the answer for any support is gonna be incredibly non-existent. Feels more and more like the US is backing themselves against the wall right now.
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Israel and Turkey will give Trump permission to launch against Iran from their hosted bases, most likely. But he can probably do it from carriers and subs in the Gulf just as well.
It's 8am here in Taipei, and I'm already pouring one out for all of the civilian casualties that will most certainly result from this.
I mean killing an Iranian general already started that ball rolling. The US can not claim that what they did wasn't an act of war, but Iran responding back is.
If the US tries to conduct all out war against Iran they don't have to attack the american homeland. Even without nukes Iran has the capacity to devastate the entire gulf region with swarms of surface to surface missiles.
The tweet was a reminder of that leverage.
The tweet was a reminder of that leverage.
American bodybags going home isnt a good look and any war with Iran will see many many bodybags.
Based on everything we know about this administration, trumps gonna hold a very cinematic press briefing by midnight tonight talking about how we just launched the BIGLIEST response to this.
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people are nuts. We're still fighting in Afghanistan and we're still in Iraq. Iran is very unified compared to those places and with very harsh terrain.
not to mention that no one other than this administration wants this war.
The UK would step up to be the usual lackey that it is, certainly under this government
The US lost 500k lives in WW2, 50 k in Vietnam Nd 5k in Iraq. A war with or in Iran is probably gonna result in many, many deaths but the US is definitely fighting from a position of absolute military superiority.
This war won't be good for the US, but it would be 1000x worse for Iran. The US Navy is the most powerful military force in history and that's just a fact. I hate that there may be a war, but even if you look at Iraq, the regime change happened right away, the bad part of Iraq in the US's perspective was occupying it years later.
Is it possible that Trump might try to get out of this by claiming a "false flag operation" and the US didn't assassinate Soleimani, and but were framed by Muslim Extremists, so that this missile response is a "totally unprovoked attack," and it wasn't his fault at all?
I mean, you don't even have to look at a historical conflict - just look at Afghanistan.
Some strong words there buddy. I'm sure the US will just back off and de-escalate the situation like reasonable actors. What world have you been living in? We all better hope these reports are exaggerating.
All these "Iran must be suicidal" comments are triggering the fuck out of me.
It's always coming from Americans. You can't even fathom the idea of another country not wanting to be America's bitch. What fucking country in this world would just do nothing after a high ranking official of theirs was killed by a different party?
Tell me that country. It certainly wouldn't be America, now would it. And always there is this proudness of your military swinging with all of it. It's sickening.
This bullying mentality of "yeah we killed him but you retaliating is dumb because we will 'flatten you' lul" is the worst. I know you folks value the life of one American Soldier more than 1000 Iraqi lives, but at some point it's time to stop and get some fucking perspective.
It's always coming from Americans. You can't even fathom the idea of another country not wanting to be America's bitch. What fucking country in this world would just do nothing after a high ranking official of theirs was killed by a different party?
Tell me that country. It certainly wouldn't be America, now would it. And always there is this proudness of your military swinging with all of it. It's sickening.
This bullying mentality of "yeah we killed him but you retaliating is dumb because we will 'flatten you' lul" is the worst. I know you folks value the life of one American Soldier more than 1000 Iraqi lives, but at some point it's time to stop and get some fucking perspective.
Well shit. I hope our military people are okay, iraq citizens, and the iran citizens when we bomb the shit out of them. Trump was just waiting for someone to bomb hardcore and probably started all this shit because of it.
Only difference is the US will use the latter as justification for war while disingenuously claiming the former was to avoid one.
