Betting $100 the State Department learned about this when it broke on CNN.
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US Department of Defense confirms it targeted/killed Qasem Soleimani, commander of Iran's Quds Force, outside Baghdad Airport
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Betting $100 the State Department learned about this when it broke on CNN.
Americans should be seriously worried right now. You clearly underestimate Iran if you think that they neither can nor will retaliate directly against US soldiers and citizens.
I kinda wonder what the Google Trends for "Does Iran have nukes" were, and how many people Googled that to decide if this is a big deal or not
A moral argument does not need to rest on first capitulating to a war mongers narrative.
the counter moral argument is simple, it avoids catering to American Exceptionalism and Republican capitulation and simply makes the case that extrajudicial assassination was dangerously escalatory, breaks international law that threatens our own self interest and security, puts American lives at risk at home and abroad, including at the embassy in Iraq that is at the center of this tinder box, goes hand in hand with a policy abandoning our non-proliferation agreements that has pushed us closer to another unnecessary and avoidable war that will cost trillions in treasure and countless lives. Leave the "he deserved to die" appeals at the door and it already goes without saying that hewas a bad guy. And when bad faith pundits press you that is when you can get indignant and point out the obvious but pivot back to the central contention here.
Can't let them know. Info might leak. Eric Trump, however.
You can't just go and say "I declare warzone" and start killing people, this is not how this works, this is not how any of this works.
You can declare war, but the US has not done that, not with Iraq and not with Iran.
Oh I know. That's why I was responding to the tweet specifically. Because Pompeo using video of cheering Iraqis is Bush-era propaganda bullshit. It didn't work then, it definitely won't work now.
DigitalOp: Fuck Americans, I hope they die in an Iranian terrorist attack so I can feel vindicated!
Has only been 2 days and these pigs are already banging their war drums.
Welcome to the 20's.
Welcome to the 20's.
No the countries don't declare it a warzone. Another body does.
Hence why Russia has actual soldiers in Syria but "patriots" in Ukraine.
He's just repeating what you said already in more explicit terms.
Lol, that isn't what he said but go off. Stop being alarmist and actually comprehend what others are saying here.
It is always fascinating seeing the predictable way people start arguing softly something and by the sheer act of doing so will strengthen their resolve and dig in harder and harder.
You started by slightly defending the rhetorical prefacing, with sustained opposition you have slowly just started defending the entire operation.
Those are not moral arguments! They're political and strategic and utilitarian ones. It is impossible to argue this was a guy who made the world a better place and who should be walking around a free man. Which is why you don't try.
I said this was the wrong action to take. I never said killing a commander of irregular forces was a war crime.
If you think that's what I said then you need to go to bed too. Y'all in this joint wildin.
Gotta love it, especially coming off the embassy thread where a handful of middle eastern and muslim posters got banned for expressing their anger about US foreign policy and the cowardly moderates here to excuse it.
24 hrs later and we got folks being cool with war crimes and shit in the name of pragmatism. Someone even mentioned we should wait for the polls aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
These people are fucking insane
EDIT: Oh and let's not forget the 'Hezbollah sleeper cells lying in wait on US soil ready to be activated at a moments notice' because you know, life wasn't hard enough for brown folks and Muslims in 2019 so let's ramp it up and make everyone a potential threat.
There is no international warzone designation body.
Seriously, that's not how any of that works. What the US did is an act of war, and undeclared one, which make it illegal by many definitions of the term, but this term is pretty meaningless because there is no real enforcement mechanism for it, and even if it was, no one can force the US to do shit it doesn't want. It least not by legal means.
Get out of here.
I never said I was cool with it and you people are just putting words in my mouth now.
That's been pretty clear last few pages. They are baiting you and it's obvious.
Sanders said this in 2016 during the primaries. He then went on to explain the concept of blowback and was thoroughly booed.
I think it's fair that when you make 50+ posts downplaying the severity of it, some people may think you're cool with it. Like you can see where people are coming from, yeah?
ME posters got banned in the embassy thread? For real?
What of the people who're rationalising/downplaying this shit happening real time?
Us Muslims and Middle Easterners are about to have a fantastic decade...
I'm not cool with it and it's very bad but let me type out a whole bunch of posts explaining why it's not THAT bad and you know if an airbase is used for military purposes then what's the big deal I don't get it but y'know i'm not cool with it but i'm going to keep downplaying it because i am very smart and logical unlike the Chapos
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It started with me defending Warren and Biden from the inevitable Dems suck and guess what.
We managed to turn it into rhat. And also me apparently being for this because I dared argue killing a commander in a warzone wasn't a war crime.
I guess I'm cancelled!
fuck it
if it's 2003 again the least I can do is rewatch teen titans
In a thread where a war is breaking out, some would prefer to cry about ''chapos'' or those ''lefty's going at it again''.
Have some perspective please.
Have some perspective please.
You're empathically arguing that Franz Ferdinand was a bad man and that Sarajevo was basically a war one anyway. Pure nonsense or something nefarious.
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