Part of it existed as a flash game, which is what spurred the idea of expanding it into a full-fledged game with better visuals and everything.
https://timsoret.itch.io/the-last-night
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Part of it existed as a flash game, which is what spurred the idea of expanding it into a full-fledged game with better visuals and everything.
https://timsoret.itch.io/the-last-night
I wanna make this game now. Where you play as an MRA and everything is 100% fine and dandy but your dialogue options are completely unhealthy for someone even saying "Hello" to you.
Everyone talking about some "Those were just Tweets from 2014. He's changed!" It doesn't even take five minutes of Twitter searching to find a host of shit from this year that is evidence to the contrary.
We had plenty of representation in the 80s. Black Panther's representation is just manufactured for money!
Identity politics dog whistling with a healthy dose of "Americans are too obsessed with race."
More identity politics dog whistles: https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1012984190105804800
Some nonsense about Techno McCarthyism he retweeted. See if anything sounds familiar.
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1075411268477931521
It's impossible to make art nowadays because everyone will get offended.
https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1034030420940271616
Why won't everyone leave ScarJo alone for taking trans roles!
https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1014309853542731787
Again, that's all from this year, and it took longer to organize this list than it did to actually do a quick search. Go back a bit further than that and there's still plenty of ranting about how SJWs and social justice is ruining lives and how GG is purely devoted to making games journalism more ethical.
We had plenty of representation in the 80s. Black Panther's representation is just manufactured for money!
Identity politics dog whistling with a healthy dose of "Americans are too obsessed with race."
More identity politics dog whistles: https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1012984190105804800
Some nonsense about Techno McCarthyism he retweeted. See if anything sounds familiar.
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1075411268477931521
It's impossible to make art nowadays because everyone will get offended.
https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1034030420940271616
Why won't everyone leave ScarJo alone for taking trans roles!
https://twitter.com/timsoret/status/1014309853542731787
Again, that's all from this year, and it took longer to organize this list than it did to actually do a quick search. Go back a bit further than that and there's still plenty of ranting about how SJWs and social justice is ruining lives and how GG is purely devoted to making games journalism more ethical.
Where did all the "Keep politics out muh vidya games" people go? Y'know, the ones who complain every time somebody dares to put a woman or a POC in a leading role in a game.
It's funny that for a group of people who love to decry left win criticism as straight out of 1984... it's these fucks who use all the tools Orwell warned against in Politics and the English Language.
Based on the reality I seem to be living in I can only assume the game will come out and make its creators billions of dollars so they can join Notch in telling everyone about the truth that rich white guys are the only people with real problems.
This is just sad.
certainly posting on Twitter about ess jay dubbleyous being uppity again
Did you really just compare this game to Nazi propaganda..? Oh internet, you never cease to amuse.
What's his ERA account... dude has the same Racism is an American thing that so many Euros here have XD
In their twisted world view, women are inherently inferior. Therefore if society treated everyone equally, the system would properly reflect our inferiority with fewer opportunities and recognition. Feminism in their world view is a threat to undermine the status quo, which they see as a meritocracy. It's utter bullshit, of course, but that's basically the line of thinking. Propagating that point of view is toxic and should give institutional funders pause because they'll be associated with it by proxy.
No one said anything about death threats, and implying that anyone here wants that is pretty disgusting honestly.
You're trying to argue that a game claims universal income/healthcare and feminism will cause the downfall of society as we know it is "original" and "great."
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Why do you, a troll poster of shit, get to have an animated avatar?
Heh. I was honestly asking for clarification of the premise while making fun of it. Come on, "too many equal rights?" As if "they got one equal right and now they want them all at my expense" was the plot of this dumbass game.
Considering the basis behind the world in this game, it's strange to me that it isn't on the banned games list.
Why do people even make threads for this game?
*clicks*
Oh, it's just eight pages of people dogpiling on this shitstain of a dev. What a pleasant surprise. Carry on then.
*clicks*
Oh, it's just eight pages of people dogpiling on this shitstain of a dev. What a pleasant surprise. Carry on then.
I don't either. Somehow even Kingdom Come was allowed.
Game doesn't even really look good without taking into account what a fragile tosser Tim Sorbet is tbh.
I mean, if I missed a video of the gameplay that makes it look amazing somewhere along the way I'm happy to be proven wrong here.
I mean, if I missed a video of the gameplay that makes it look amazing somewhere along the way I'm happy to be proven wrong here.
The obligatory "I, as a straight white guy, think you're being overly dramatic #outrageculture" post.
Wishing for someone's death is a bannable offense, fyi. Not that I'd mind if some dumb troll account got banned, mind you.
Could you elaborate on what's so original about the premise?
Edit: lol, already banned. Nevermind.
it sounds like they might have been missing milestones. this could have been why microsoft pulled support (see also: scalebound). that would make sense with the legal & financial issues that they can't talk about. what it sounds like to me is that the game was proceeding on a certain path, soret got a sweet deal from microsoft, which led to a dumb expenditure of cash that bought them all the nice things they always wanted and also put the game behind schedule because now they could make it 'better'.
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Can't say I feel sorry for him. Any publisher that supports this man and his ideals will deserve a boycott.
I gotta say, if The Videogame Awards thing is true, I am really disappointed that Geoff was gonna allow him on the show. I'm actually surprised that more people aren't paying attention to that. But I guess it's no surprised with how many sexist streamers get nominated there.
I gotta say, if The Videogame Awards thing is true, I am really disappointed that Geoff was gonna allow him on the show. I'm actually surprised that more people aren't paying attention to that. But I guess it's no surprised with how many sexist streamers get nominated there.
Good times.
The guy should've really just shut up and got on with the game development.
This is a good example of the perils of indie development when you're no longer a few people working from someone's house. Things can go very bad behind the scenes when large amounts of money and significant numbers of staff are involved, and you can end up shit creek without a paddle. Having a solid publisher who has your back and enough money to keep the lights burning is more important than having a great gameplay concept or a cool trailer. I suspected something was wrong behind the scenes when the game didn't make any appearances in 2018.
Of course the Eidos Montreal Deus Ex games completely ignored this and went right back to cyberpunk cliches, cackling old dudes in towers as the source of all evil, and oppressed underclasses the audience is supposed to automatically side with.
From what I remember, the game's premise is a dystopia driven by the absence of need and purpose. Most cyberpunk stems from a fairly samey and ultimately myopic worldview where all the evils in the world are caused by greedy corporations being greedy. Billowing smokestacks, rampant poverty, rich people living on top, poor people in the underbelly. While is is true that in the real world, the love of money is the root of all evil, in the absence of such structures, new types of dystopia could form. Cyberpunk as a genre basically has a giant fetish for 1984. Brave New World, not so much. A lot of popular cyberpunk has been politically unimaginative. Deus Ex is a rare example of cyberpunk, I feel, that looks past the cliches to some of the underlying problems of government and society and how creating a seeming utopia can potentially backfire in horrible ways.
Of course the Eidos Montreal Deus Ex games completely ignored this and went right back to cyberpunk cliches, cackling old dudes in towers as the source of all evil, and oppressed underclasses the audience is supposed to automatically side with.
I haven't been following this game. What exactly did he do to deserve all that hate?
If only there was a thread in which people talked about this.
i mean its been said time and time again in this very thread....
I haven't read up on everything he's written/said, so I don't know to what extent the stronger reactions in here are justified vs hate campaigning, BUT, from what I do know about him and the game he was making it just seems like a dumb and tasteless concept for a cyberpunk premise, doesn't it?
His "literature stopped being as smart after 19th century england" phrasing and whiney attitude towards critics are not a good look when your game is marketed as relevant art and, based on the timing of its development, it seems like a reaction to #metoo, Anita Sarkeesian, anti-gamergate, and other equal rights movements happening rn. THAT's you're oppressive dystopia? A world with more equality where feminism is more influential and where poverty might be addressed, possibly fixed via UBI? Sounds like another typical "I read Ayn Rand, of course I'm woke" tech bro philosophy. Maybe the game is smarter than its premise lets on, but it's understandable that a concept like that will not get overwhelming positive feedback, and should be open to criticisms if the critics know something the general public does not (which is often the case).
If he can't make his point well via tweets, it seems pretty unlikely he's capable of making a full game that matches the ambition or relevance of what he's trying to present it as. Make your case guy and hold your own in discourse or just admit your concept is probably dumb and you're just whining about critics who probably have more progressive views and emotional sensitivity than you and are more aware of it than you are.
Inb4 he's claims he's being targeted on twitter and books himself on Fireside Chats to have a prepared, defensive soliloquy about how relevant and important his game is, lmao.
His "literature stopped being as smart after 19th century england" phrasing and whiney attitude towards critics are not a good look when your game is marketed as relevant art and, based on the timing of its development, it seems like a reaction to #metoo, Anita Sarkeesian, anti-gamergate, and other equal rights movements happening rn. THAT's you're oppressive dystopia? A world with more equality where feminism is more influential and where poverty might be addressed, possibly fixed via UBI? Sounds like another typical "I read Ayn Rand, of course I'm woke" tech bro philosophy. Maybe the game is smarter than its premise lets on, but it's understandable that a concept like that will not get overwhelming positive feedback, and should be open to criticisms if the critics know something the general public does not (which is often the case).
If he can't make his point well via tweets, it seems pretty unlikely he's capable of making a full game that matches the ambition or relevance of what he's trying to present it as. Make your case guy and hold your own in discourse or just admit your concept is probably dumb and you're just whining about critics who probably have more progressive views and emotional sensitivity than you and are more aware of it than you are.
Inb4 he's claims he's being targeted on twitter and books himself on Fireside Chats to have a prepared, defensive soliloquy about how relevant and important his game is, lmao.
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That does make a lot of sense as far as a possibility. Even if Microsoft didn't pull the plug specifically because of the game or Soret himself, if his team was consistently unable to deliver what they promised on time, that would give Microsoft reason to just cut their losses without controversy. And now Soret is up shit's creek unless he can find someone else to fund a game he's already overspent on and is loaded with bad PR of his own making.
I've looked through some pages and haven't seen anything too bad... maybe I'm missing it. Regardless of the mans views there are other people working their so I wish no evil upon them.
It's not just his views, it's also the core premise of the game.
Yeah apparently your disdain for feminism is somehow allowed here. It's sad to see someone being a reactionary
if what you read here wasn't enough then idk what to tell you dooder
So you think that islamphobia, strongly disliking women having their own agency, complaining about identity politics and claiming that social progression is a bad thing isn't "too bad" and these are normal thoughts to have?
Imagine hoping a game is shitty to women for your own entertainment.
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