It's a demo to showcase their new engine's graphical improvements......what exactly do you expect? It's not a real game.
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Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5
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Hell yeaEpic uploaded some wallpapers in case you wanna look at those pixel level triangles.
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Well, next gen all games will feature fast flying and super man powers from what I see on the forum.
There's noone blinder that that who doesn't want to see...
If you can't see some of the implications this will have for gameplay I don't what to tell you
Most first party PS5 games use their own engines i'm sure they show some amazing stuff.
Maybe but my main concern right now is the Series X, because if this is beyond its streaming capabilities we're _definitely_ not getting games like this beyond a few Sony exclusives.
So can the demo run on the Series X??
lol yes thats the only reason they showed it on PS5. smh. You guys are losing it.
To me it was clear that the flying part was to go in line with what Sony showed with the Spiderman demo. There will be more to be revealed from this demo this week we heard and I feel the flying part will be a part of that.
At this point Epic isn't the one making flagship UE games, it's basically The Coalition with their Gears games. Gears has always come out with the latest and greatest in Unreal engine for its time, even after the franchise left Epic. So will be exciting to see what The Coalition does with it.
So games in development now but won't be appearing till possibly 2021/21, it really depends on how quickly a port from engine to engine can be done.
I can picture a time in the future where people love fake loading screens. They'll feel it's super immersive to be reminded they're playing a videogame.
Of course the demo can run on Series X. Epic has a partnership with Sony and had a hand in the console in terms of giving feedback etc. Im sure they just felt it was a cool way to show PS5s super fast SSD. Xbox will be able to do the same although its SSD is definetly slower, itll just make up for it in GPU power.
What other reason(s) if not marketing?
Are you saying this demo isn't possible on SeX?
The UE4 demo on PS4 actually makes me more convinced that this will be in games than the other way round.
Really happy about the animation bits that they mentioned. They should've talked more about that.
Can you shed some light on the differences in platform holders tech focus then? MS opted to tackle a stronger GPU, Sony tackled a Stronger SSD. I keep seeing than Xsex is "good enough" for no noticeable differences between SKU's, so I'm still trying to wrap my head around why we don't have nearly identical pieces of hardware. is the really fast SSD (when just fast is good enough) solely to make lives easier for devs? Would that even show favorably when sites like digital foundry do side-by-sides?
So, you're saying it might not take PD another 4 years to make Gran Turismo 7 right?? lol...
Is the jump to SSD big enough for linear games (Uncharted 4 for example) quality to be matched in an open world as big as Botw or Witcher 3?
They have a partnership with PS5 and had a hand in its development by giving feedback and what not. Maybe, JUST MAYBE they are ALSO excited about the super fast SSD. Does the Series X have a faster SSD? Cuz thats part of what they were showing with the flying at the end. The benefits of streaming on the fly.
Which SSD is faster?
Why would someone looking to release their in-development game port to this engine? Expect few to be stressed about jumping to UE5. There are still games coming out on UE3 to this day.
I promise the games will look better than the tech demo 4 years into next gen. Its always the case.
We have no idea of when Gears 6 is coming, though.
~3 years has been the dev time so far, but who knows if that will change with Series X.
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You sound so insecure. With copious amounts of desperation sprinkled on top.
It just dawned on me that you can just pull the JJ verse Star Trek starship models into this and play around with them. I was a huge Star Trek Bridge Commander nerd when I had a PC with a optical drive and now I'll be sad if no one uses this tech to give me ILM level Star Trek ships in real time.
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Some lovely lighting. Character model wasn't anything new but it did look great overall. They couldn't have picked a more "Sony" looking game to show off the tech so the demo makers knew how to pull the strings of the intended audience. A good marketing decision.
lol, yea, pretty funny that the demo has a loading screen. Still impressive, but, yea...
Extra features? Better performance? Maybe just so they can say they are on UE5 as props? I am sure some people will be unsure about moving to UE5, just because it now demands more expertise etc. It always takes time to adjust to a new engine but its still just UE.
The Sony SSD is faster. You're asking the wrong question. The question is how much that difference matters for this demo. Tim already said this same demo runs will on current mid-high end PC configs, without the fancy SSD tech. So maybe it's not especially important here at all. Which means maybe the XSX can run it equally well or better given it's GPU advantage. Who knows.
Why would I be insecure when Im fortuate enough to own and game on all consoles? Sounds like youre projecting. Im not the one saying the only reason they did the demo on PS5 is cuz of marketing and money. Some people in this thread cant wrap their head around the fact perhaps Epic is excited for the PS5s capabilities.
If you move a game to UE5 from UE4, you're going to get benefits but if you're deep in development, pipelines are set and content is coming together, you're not going to make a drastic switch to Nanite and upend all that work you've already done unless you're pushing your game back.
Games built from the ground up with Nanite and Lumen are going to look incredible but we're years away from that.
Have you seen the UE4 demo on PS4 it was far surpassed.
Unreal Engine 4: Real-Time PS4 Tech Demo
Epic Games shows off a new tech demo for Unreal Engine 4 running in real-time on PS4.
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so SeriesX isn't exciting.
100mb/s streaming industry standard shifting to 4800mb/s isn't exciting. it must be 9000mb/s to drop our jaws.
BCpack - MS's new compression tech, which handles the most demanding asset bottleneck in games - Textures, 30% more efficiently than Sony - isn't exciting.
this is so funny.
This is great.
Epic has been submerged in the Fortnite life for a very long time now, and a large part of that is probably learning first-hand how difficult it is to take a single idea, or a single set of artist produced assets, and take them through a pipeline for each and every platform to optimize along that path. The idea of mapping 1 pixel to 1 triangle (and theoretically culling everything else, through whatever virtualization this is), makes rendering seem more like a cost relative to resolution, which naturally scales up and down depending on how powerful the hardware is. This *seems* like it would take a huge load off of the shoulders of artists who have been given the difficult task of making sure their crazy high-poly models can exist in that iPhone version of their game. It's a horizontal scaling method that seems really powerful and will save a lot of pain and time on behalf of larger companies that can afford to think in the direction of many skus, and make that considering a possibility for even the smaller teams. It kind of makes sense that some of this is born out of the battle-testing grounds that is Fortnite -- it's more than just a game to them at this point, or some social experiment, it's an honest-to-god testing ground for the latest and greatest technology.
I'm a little... confused, or maybe underwhelmed that the solution here for GI is not RT. I actually don't know exactly what it is, but I am reminded that at some point there was a voxel octree GI solution (or something like that) made for UE4.x that got cut due to hardware not being there; my guess is, this is that, brought back, better and more refined. It looks great, mind, and I realize that this doesn't mean reflections or shadows are going away -- those are still options. But it does mean, I think, that Epic has chosen to steer clear of the route taken by, like, the Metro guys or Remedy. This is their solution, and they think it cuts a perfect middleground -- for consoles, they are probably right on the money, and this leans in hard to the earlier point I was trying to make.
Overall, super excited. This stuff really does seem next-gen to me -- and a huge paradigm shift in terms of how we deal with detail in games. It reminds me about the granularity MS was showing off with meshlets in DX12; being able to cull to almost perfect precision high density models bought them a lot of performance, so it stands to reason that if you can cut off all waste you can reasonably do what they have set out to do here.
Epic has been submerged in the Fortnite life for a very long time now, and a large part of that is probably learning first-hand how difficult it is to take a single idea, or a single set of artist produced assets, and take them through a pipeline for each and every platform to optimize along that path. The idea of mapping 1 pixel to 1 triangle (and theoretically culling everything else, through whatever virtualization this is), makes rendering seem more like a cost relative to resolution, which naturally scales up and down depending on how powerful the hardware is. This *seems* like it would take a huge load off of the shoulders of artists who have been given the difficult task of making sure their crazy high-poly models can exist in that iPhone version of their game. It's a horizontal scaling method that seems really powerful and will save a lot of pain and time on behalf of larger companies that can afford to think in the direction of many skus, and make that considering a possibility for even the smaller teams. It kind of makes sense that some of this is born out of the battle-testing grounds that is Fortnite -- it's more than just a game to them at this point, or some social experiment, it's an honest-to-god testing ground for the latest and greatest technology.
I'm a little... confused, or maybe underwhelmed that the solution here for GI is not RT. I actually don't know exactly what it is, but I am reminded that at some point there was a voxel octree GI solution (or something like that) made for UE4.x that got cut due to hardware not being there; my guess is, this is that, brought back, better and more refined. It looks great, mind, and I realize that this doesn't mean reflections or shadows are going away -- those are still options. But it does mean, I think, that Epic has chosen to steer clear of the route taken by, like, the Metro guys or Remedy. This is their solution, and they think it cuts a perfect middleground -- for consoles, they are probably right on the money, and this leans in hard to the earlier point I was trying to make.
Overall, super excited. This stuff really does seem next-gen to me -- and a huge paradigm shift in terms of how we deal with detail in games. It reminds me about the granularity MS was showing off with meshlets in DX12; being able to cull to almost perfect precision high density models bought them a lot of performance, so it stands to reason that if you can cut off all waste you can reasonably do what they have set out to do here.
Hey, man... I can't speak to what's going on in someone else's house.
As a lifelong fan of the series, I hope not! I really cannot wait to see what PD cooks up on PS5. Phewwwwww!
Youre right it might not be important. But I am just taking tims word as is, people in this thread cant accept that they didnt demo on Xbox instead because they are convinced it is objectively better in all possible ways. Im sure there are pros and cons to each console and perhaps tim wanted to showcase the streaming abilities on PS5 because the SSD is faster and to show best case scenario in terms of streaming. All we know is they decided to do a demo using PS5. Im sure their partnership had to do with it but that doesnt mean tech wasnt a factor either.
Except it's not a loading screen? This thread is a wild ride with all the baseless drivel being shoveled around.
Was this available or downloadable for the average PS4 user?u sure?
Unreal Engine 4: Real-Time PS4 Tech Demo
Epic Games shows off a new tech demo for Unreal Engine 4 running in real-time on PS4.
Agreed. It would be a massive jump for some but Epic have always pushed towards helping people migrate. I guess it depends on how different UE5 is from UE4. I am guessing the workflow will be similar and stuff like blueprints etc.
I can see teams like the Coalition already adding features from UE5 into their plans now, so maybe it will be easier.
I guess we will find out soon..ish...
Here quick webm, didn't find good cutoff point for the end :(
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Storage size will continue being a limiting factor if you target unique detail at high density. Obviously consessions will be made to fit things into "shippable" sizes.
Production pipelines were another challenge though.
Says the man who said this:
Preordering a XSX the second it goes up. I'll wait for the PS5 until a few good exclusives are out or there is some kind of Pro version.
Meanwhile I'll enjoy both lmao. Youll be okay.
