It won't make games run better on PS5. It's still Unreal Engine.
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Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5
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It won't make games run better on PS5. It's still Unreal Engine.
I don't know, it feels pretty substantially more detailed than those games. Maybe the player controlled character model is equal, but the environment shown is just so many leagues beyond what we've seen previously. Everything has consistent detail up close and far away. Draw distance appears to be completely non-existent. Ground textures are the same detail level as far out as the eye can see. Lighting appears completely perfect and interactive.
The sheer detail of the statues is beyond what we've seen in current gen character models, and there's hundreds of them on screen at once.
I really do wish companies would release high quality versions of their videos for download. Streaming is great for convenience but this should have a High Bitrate, 4K, HDR, 10-Bit video available for download in x265; for those of who want it.
No one cares about quality anymore and it sucks.
No one cares about quality anymore and it sucks.
Delete this
Which is only possible because it's a very curated set of animations made specifically for situations like that. What people are saying is that this demo absolutely is full of very scripted animations that require no input from the player. If every jump required you to wind up like this it would feel awful to play. And I can't believe it has to stated but you can literally spot the moment control is wrestled away from the player so that the character can smoothly transition into a premade animation specifically for this one jump:
It's very very different from Spiderman.
I always walk back a few feet before I jump, so it looks more realistic.
This level of detail would requires several gigabytes worth of data, even with a 5.5GB/s SSD you'll need 2-3 seconds for it to be read and loaded into the RAM and clear the RAM of data you don't need.
Cerny gave the same number iirc 2-3 seconds of access time for data.
The vimeo vid is quite a bit better than the stream and youtube version.
Thanks!
I just saw a Geoff tweet, they were discussing it. Guy from Epic (no disrespect) said its fully playable, and a little bit different each time.
1440p and 30 fps but being that impressive and clean....definitely next-gen!
Nice demo. Suddenly Microsoft's cross-gen strategy makes even more sense. They knew UE5 wouldn't be ready till late 2021 so they're just going with the games already in production on UE4. Has Hellblade 2 been confirmed to be UE4 or just Unreal Engine so it could be UE5?
still gotta unwrap that bitch for texturing and animation. that would put a bit of a damper of straight importing
I didn't say that.
As I've been saying for a while - I'd take extra drive speed over extra GPU strength any day of the week. The faster, the better. For that reason (and others), PS5 is is just a wicked piece of hardware on paper.
To me, pretty graphics is just like "meh" at this point. I'm way more excited due to developer reactions on how it decreases the amount of work they have to do and makes for more efficient pipelines. That's the stuff that's got me really interested, especially if it can reduce the cost of development.
Two things that haven't been mentioned. UEV's temporal upsampling and motion blur are exceptional.
The insane flying segment at the end gives me hope for crazy fidelity flight in Horizon Zero Dawn 2. Maximise that SSD throughput. Let me ride a Stormbird across vast and intricate looking landscapes and cities.
I don't think that's been released, but there is precedent in mesh shaders.
No one knows except a few Epic engineers yet. You'll have to wait (not very long) for some more details.
The system is only working for static geometry (at least for now), so doesn't really apply to animated character. Laser scans are definitely a more common use case.
Yep. I am happy Audio is a focus for next-gen too. In terms of immersion it will add a lot. Audio/music is so important in games & movies.
DualSense might be the extra thing more. I am very excited to test it.
Yeah this.
Youtube craptastic bitrate Is just not good enough.
Yea lol it's crazy how new advancements can negate different methods completely.
I really want to see the GDC talk they had planned. I'm trying to wrap my mind around of what they were doing with the whole Nanite thing but except reducing geometry on the fly when doing calculations (like lighting calculations) I don't see how it is possible to do what they are doing.
Please quote me with theories on how this could possibly work.
Please quote me with theories on how this could possibly work.
Not to mention devs have always designed game levels keeping the poly budget in mind. Carefully occluding the view with buildings, turns etc...now they can design it in whatever way they wish.
4K video on Vimeo is 1.5GB H264, for a 9 minute video. That's pretty good quality IMO. It's not HDR though. They also have a 1440p video, which is probably native rendered resolution of this demo PS5, from what I understand. That video is 700MB.
Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5
Unreal Engine 5 empowers artists to achieve unprecedented levels of detail and interactivity, and brings these capabilities within practical reach of teams of all…
vimeo.com
surely Epic are pointing out the reality of existing development/design using high detailed assets - but that rather than having to take slow, additional steps of using high res models to bake normal maps, then generate a lower res model, then map the normals to that lower res model - now you can just take the original model straight into the engine and they'll take care of the rest.
It should shorten timelines, not lengthen it. In particular it should speed up iteration if any changes are needed from artists and level designers.
I assume the engine is less efficient than prebaking stuff, but the increased power of next gen consoles and high end PCs allows for that flexibility for developers.
Sounds good for everybody.
Bring on next gen, eye melting candy!
Geometry data can be turned into a 2D texture using implicit surface parametrization, and then you could apply usual virtual texturing tricks such as sampling only at desired resolution, depending on context.
Industry Wide I am not sure.
But looking at Xbox Game Studios,
From a known/rumored 12 odd AA games they are working on 6 are using Unreal Engine.
You watched it on Vimeo? I know that is still not the same, but much better than youtube?
I don't think it matters at this point. They fumbled their first and most important impression so badly.
I believe Sawyer has tweeted his stance on all these gains to be "I'll believe it when I see it in production."
Im ignorant on the subject but how do you make current dynamic lighting systems work with 2D textures?