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Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5
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Wonder how many of the same people excited for this were naysaying the ability of these consoles because Valhalla won't do 60fps. I just think people need to remember the leap we are about to take here. we are leaving behind nearly ten-year-old architecture to what these consoles will offer...and SSDs. It's gonna be something.
I understood it as virtual texturing, so there is no 8K texture sitting on the ssd. Its generated on the fly?
facepalm. lol
Didn't even think of those. Next gen is going to be insane. Just a little over 5 months to go. Hopefully we get a couple of next gen only tittles that push the system more than current gen games.
I don't think it look that much better than something from this gen with ray-tracing, but the big thing here is how much easier it makes the process to artists. No need to worry about triangle count and optimizations means that the art assets can be developed much faster, also lighting adjustments don't need to take hours anymore like it used to in UE4.
Wow. Do you have ANY actual facts as of why this is only possible because of "the power of streaming 10GB/s on a custom SSD"?
That was impressive in terms of detail to say the least with the nanites technology in Unreal Engine 5, and everyone should be excited about the potential for next generation games. But there are a couple of disappointing things with this demo: (1) This was mostly at 1440p with dynamic resolution per Digital Foundry and only 30 fps. Sure it looks nice, but that isn't exactly top tier performance expectation here for next generation gaming when we don't even have a ton of things going on in the world for the demo. (2) It was really strange for them to include a "shimmy through a crack in the wall" segment that has been described by many as a current gen "trick" to hide world loading in a next gen engine demo where they talked about SSD performance making world streaming such that we won't need this.
People on this site constantly made it seem like there is this massive insurmountable different between the series X and the PS5 when the reality is that both have advantages and disadvantages owing to their different hardware approaches. The demo will likely not be much different on the series X.
For once a tech demo looks like a game I'd actually want to play, lol.
The tech involved here is great too, I'm really glad they actually tried to innovate in an interesting way this gen by using faster loading from the SSD tech to be able to push more geometry, lighting and so on rather than just a brute force "more FLOPs" approach. I think it will make this coming gen stand out a lot more from the last.
As someone did mention though, the infamous wall shimmy did rear it's head here, so maybe loading times can still be a factor the devs will need to be clever about, unless this was a case of doing it purely by choice (which would be strange since devs certainly know the memes/stigma of those scenes).
The tech involved here is great too, I'm really glad they actually tried to innovate in an interesting way this gen by using faster loading from the SSD tech to be able to push more geometry, lighting and so on rather than just a brute force "more FLOPs" approach. I think it will make this coming gen stand out a lot more from the last.
As someone did mention though, the infamous wall shimmy did rear it's head here, so maybe loading times can still be a factor the devs will need to be clever about, unless this was a case of doing it purely by choice (which would be strange since devs certainly know the memes/stigma of those scenes).
Oh yeah for sure, but at the same time I also think it will be possible to use some of the tech here to squeeze more out of the Switch which is also exciting.
Horizon ZD's Thunderjaw was 550,000 polygons.Has this eurogamer article been posted?
This is next-gen: see Unreal Engine 5 running on PlayStation 5
We've seen the specs, we've heard the pitches - but what we haven't experienced is any demonstration of a genuine next-…www.eurogamer.net
They mentioned 33 million triangles per statue, and billions of polygons of polygon every frame. For reference, how many triangles would we expect from a similar statue in a game like Uncharted 4 or God of War on a current gen machine?
Edit: Kratos was 80k polygons
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Looks awesome. Time will tell how these new features truly pan out. Can't help but be excited though.
LOL he wasted no time.
In Cerny's talk about the hardware, he said that won't be the case. It should actually be quieter because the fans aren't supposed to go in turbo mode now.
This isn't a console thing, and you won't see games using it until 2022 or later.
Yes, I did miss that conversation, but I don't see how this would scale down reasonably well with everything going on.
I guess I'll better understand when I can start messing with the engine itself, and the tech demo they ship with it. My system is probably part way between XBONE and One X, with a pretty standard HDD, so that'll be a decent test, I think.
Ah, makes a lot of sense, though I'd imagine most would still not want the highest quality assets to always be pulled in if ultimately they are background stuff, which was more what I mean by not using them. More a super high end PC setting for actual games.
I'm just guessing, as I've not seen their pipeline (obvs), but you can use textures as atlases. It costs less to have the largest possible texture in memory and just access that over and over for multiple pieces of the scene. This is a common technique. However, that is huge and amazing news.
Every part of this demo is just nuts
That's incredibly petty lol
Both consoles will look amazing, we had our fun with tech talk. It is time to let the games do the talking.
I'm sure this will look fantastic on a 4K display too, the upscaling/reconstruction sounds pretty solid. In my opinion this resolution should be the target for AAA games.
For someone who claims to be above console wars, he seems pretty attached to it.
What is with the hot takes that XSX wont be able to run this as good a PS5? I mean wtf, this is gonna run just as good on both, even a little better with the extra cpu/gpu grunt the XSX has. The ssd is great in both, loading and asset streaming speeds will be greatly enhanced next gen. But thats never going to eliminate pure cpu/gpu advantage.
This is a tech demo that Sony probably paid to be promoted by, its a game engine that will be used by every device worldwide even mobile. It will scale up and down depending on requirements.
If anything PC gamers should be bloody excited, this engine with Nvidias 3080ti rumoured to be 23TFlops is going to be insane!
This is a tech demo that Sony probably paid to be promoted by, its a game engine that will be used by every device worldwide even mobile. It will scale up and down depending on requirements.
If anything PC gamers should be bloody excited, this engine with Nvidias 3080ti rumoured to be 23TFlops is going to be insane!
More that the textures are streamed from the SSD at the level of detail that's visible on screen at the time, rather then loading the entire 8K texture at once even though the asset only takes up a few hundred pixels and the backside isn't visible. Basically a bit like Google Maps and how it only loads up the satellite data that's actually visible even though the total amount of data is in the dozens of petabytes.
You can read up a bit about it here since there's already an early implementation in UE4: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Rendering/VirtualTexturing/index.html
Sorry I misunderstood, you probably know more than me lol. No idea! I am also confounded. But fascinated!
I did see on Twitter this was meant to be demoed at GDC, so I'm assuming we'll see a deeper dive in the coming days/weeks.
O.o ? Streaming that many assets of that quality with that sort of speed is going to be possible because of the custom SSD hardware of next gen consoles. That's the entire point of that sequence, to show that off.... why are we angry?
Maybe it secretary is and they're actually making Horizon 2 in UE5?
No mention of RT in the demo is a bit annoying. Was hoping we'd get something more than that appears to be the shoe-horned stuff in UE4.
Also, it'd be great to see an updated version of the Samaritan demo.
Also, it'd be great to see an updated version of the Samaritan demo.
Totally. Microsoft are already all in with Epic anyway so Sweeney didn't need to boost that partnership. It's interesting because we don't even know if Sony first party are using Unreal yet so basically a great PR moment for Sony.
That's not exactly true. I've heard of Nvidia and AMD trying to make similar tech but it seems the hardware that existed before now couldn't properly support their efforts. I think we are seeing a convergence of proper hardware with software development. Now my big question is if this feature will be exclusive to Epic for the next 2 years or if other engines like Unity, CryEngine and Source 2 have already been working on this within their own houses. If these engines are significantly behind in integrating this tech into their engines I don't see any reason but to go with Unreal for the short term regardless of licensing models.
Because they're working with companies across all different kinds of media and are trying to merge those streams. You're not likely to see games running 8K textures, though.
And this is where we are going to have to wonder, do i want this in fake 4k, or current gen games at 4k ? I think the answer will be pretty easy cause that looked damn good on my 4k screen, even if not the sharpest. All i want s perfect iq and no aliasing etc.. To achieve the next gen feel, they're going to have to prioritize what people notice. The resolution obsession is about to get old i think.
AFAIK Days Gone/Bend is the only studio using Unreal Engine. Could be wrong.
Has this eurogamer article been posted?
This is next-gen: see Unreal Engine 5 running on PlayStation 5
We've seen the specs, we've heard the pitches - but what we haven't experienced is any demonstration of a genuine next-…
They mentioned 33 million triangles per statue, and billions of polygons of polygon every frame. For reference, how many triangles would we expect from a similar statue in a game like Uncharted 4 or God of War on a current gen machine?
Kratos had 80,000 Polygons with 32,000 going to his face alone.
Im pretty sure other characters and single assets would be at maximum 100,000 polygons.
Millions of Polygons is productin ready level stuff, which is why they demo'd megascans for the scene and the statues....they are basically telling us, you can import the stuff youve made at its max quality into the engine.
Detail, even when close to the textures. And because they just can.
That high poly statue model. All of this makes me wonder how much time it takes to even make such a thing. Jesus.