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Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5
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Geoff just driving more views to it which IGN is quite happy about I'm sure.
The point of what they were saying was that you can just pull in assets like that, which is insane.
A lot of the time, game assets are done at far far higher poly count than they appear in game. That's what they were talking about at the start. Artists have to pare things down to make them work. Here, they just drop them in and it works. This is a really huge advancement. I didn't even know like, it was a thing we could look forward to. This is going to be yet another thing that makes dev's lives easier. They can just take their production quality models and drop them in without having to painstakingly pare them down manually. That's how I understand it.
Go on things like Artstation and you'll see assets that have appeared in games but they look way way better. That's usually because they are higher poly and the lighting is baked, with the image able to take as long as it needs to render.
I could be wrong about this since I haven't looked into modeling and zbrush and all that good stuff in a while, but that's how I remember it.
I already feel bad sprinting through Destiny 2 dungeons at mach speed.
The gazillion reflections of Kamurocho and Sotenbori in the evening.
Has this eurogamer article been posted?
This is next-gen: see Unreal Engine 5 running on PlayStation 5
We've seen the specs, we've heard the pitches - but what we haven't experienced is any demonstration of a genuine next-…www.eurogamer.net
They mentioned 33 million triangles per statue, and billions of polygons of polygon every frame. For reference, how many triangles would we expect from a similar statue in a game like Uncharted 4 or God of War on a current gen machine?
Current-gen games only have like 5 million polys per frame on the whole.
They did say it was scalable all the way to mobile phones. I think the Switch will be fine.
There will obviously be cut backs tho.
I thought Switch was supported? I daresay you aint gonna see a bajillion polygons on Switch games but the chances are it will still improve on what you can do with UE4 on Switch.
I'll say probably not on Series X, for a couple years at least. MS said their first couple years will be cross gen. Also I'm not sure how their HDD compares, and how that will affect games.
PS5 maybe. If so, likely from a first party studio, I'd guess.
Some cross gen games could still look pretty great scaled up to take advantage of some of the new power.
Holy fuck, adding to my previous post, straight from the official site:
"Lumen erases the need to wait for lightmap bakes to finish and to author light map UVs "
AAAAAAAAAHHHSJDGHSKDGHKFSDGFJDSJFLDS!!!!!
From a creators point of view, even if it's not gaming related, I almost feel like crying. This brings me joy.
"Lumen erases the need to wait for lightmap bakes to finish and to author light map UVs "
AAAAAAAAAHHHSJDGHSKDGHKFSDGFJDSJFLDS!!!!!
From a creators point of view, even if it's not gaming related, I almost feel like crying. This brings me joy.
Global Illumination doesnt have to be Raytraced, why they are stressing the no need to prebake is because Unreal is known for needing the bake lighting into scenes and textures it was/is always cumbersome and a chore to do....being able to have lighting calculated on the fly is an advancement.
CryEngine 3 was using Global Illumination way back when.
Hell if you want to see really cool GI you could boot up Ryse on an OG XboxOne no Raytracing present.
All it means is that light bounces off things in the scene in a more realistic manner but it isnt as accurate as Path tracing.
If you feel comfortable answering questions like these I just wanted to know they said triangles are now the size of pixels. I always thought that was the case. How large were they before technically speaking?
You should watch the video, it's about Nanite and the illumination system.
There's many realtime GI techniques that are not ray-tracing. It's possible ray tracing is leveraged in parts of this algorithm... but it appears not to be per-pixel, from-scratch-every-frame type of ray tracing. Will be interesting to see the details anyway, whatever it is it might be a good quality/performance compromise vs full-fat ray tracing. It seems like it might be a better quality compromise than other non-RT GI algos we've seen.
Indeed, but I don't think I've ever seen quite as pointed an endorsement of one console's technical focus as is here. I mean it's not that incredible anyway if it was the case... this stuff is clearly data heavy. Is it 'PS5-levels-of-throughput' data heavy? Maybe this specifc demo is or is not, or won't be after optimisation, but it's quite believable that in development, PS5 has been easier to experiment with because of the headroom there.
Its apparently an in between tech. To quote DF from there UE5 video. Not as good but not that expensive to render.
I thought an engine reveal wouldn't be enough to hype me but this was impressive enough to make me eat crow
Did you miss the conversation about scaling? It sounds like this is perfect for cross gen.
The tech sounds amazing, Lumen finally being an implementation of what seems to be an evolved version of the SVOGI tech from the initial UE4 tech demos that got cut from the released version and never re-implemented due to PS4/XONE limitations apparently. Nanite pushing the boundaries of asset creation & implementation, but don't expect a game targeting Native 4K60FPS having tens of billions of triangles in a rendered scene like this demo but it will still scale well and offer a geometry fidelity unseen before outside of CG films. VR in this engine will be fucking bonkers, you thought Half Life Alyx looked good?
The transition of Fortnite from UE4 to UE5 will be the litmus test as to how painful the transition will be, just upgrading a few UE4 iterations forward can leave developers scratching their heads for a while to fix things and they're saying the transition will be akin to that.
The transition of Fortnite from UE4 to UE5 will be the litmus test as to how painful the transition will be, just upgrading a few UE4 iterations forward can leave developers scratching their heads for a while to fix things and they're saying the transition will be akin to that.
The demo apparently took about 24 people 6 months to make (with a lot of high quality assets taken from Quixel).
The tech demo was cool and impressive. I laughed out loud when the character began to squeeze through the opening to get to the other side. Sure enough, people are being hella cynical online. Everyone needs to chill.
Also, triangles 🔺
Also, triangles 🔺
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Lol
Klob mad
Klob mad
Yoooo.. ok. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after she got outside. I feel like this is where we will likely get blown away next-gen: all of that detail combined with the loading speed of the SSD, being able to GO places and see very large sudden changes without needing to hide anything. Even when the lighting changed in the dark cave that got me too, in a smaller way. I was just sad to see "2021" honestly, I was hoping it would be here even sooner!
Yeah.
Show how fast they could stream in that level of closeup detail and still do everything else like that ending sequence.
Plus stylistically it fits the setting of a Tomb Raider or Uncharted going through a cave. Even if it's not needed just like the end of the demo showed, it's still very fitting do it occasionally due to the setting to add to the awe.
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It uses GI just refers to the lightning model that simulates both direct illumination and indirect illumination (light bouncing, etc...). You can use different ways to achieve, or simulate this effect. RT GI is the 'best' one but requires a lot of computational power. UE5 probably uses some kind of variation of VXGI, that uses voxels for indirect lightning or something entirely new.
Even if it doesn't look as good as RT GI, it still looks very good and far ahead what we saw this gen.
As far as I understand it, what UE5 is doing is very fancy real time lighting that interacts with the 3d environment, but is still 'set' as a light source. Its an artist placing those lights but them interacting with the environment without much cost so they can end the days of pre-baked stuff being the only good lighting in games with good shadowing.
Ray-tracing, or how a lot of companies have been showing it, is a lot like just dumping an artificially simulated sun into a videogame world and it does everything from that point of view on a molecular level. Its not an artist doing it and placing 'RAY TRACING POINT A', its code going nuts and doing everything, hence why its a big teraflop user.
Thats at least how I understand it, unless UE5 is a bit of both in some way. Its also a good indicator that not every game is going to need ray-tracing to look incredible. You're still going to want artists in control of directly placing some impressive aspects of lighting themselves. The real TL/DR is goodbye baked environments, hello fully interactive destructable ones again.
So people will be making these kinda of games in 5 years with a respectable budget.
That's amazing news!
How?
Nobody said it wasn't powerful, they just said it wasn't powerful in comparison to the XSX. Which hasn't been proven to be untrue.
The question now is how much better will this demo run on the XSX?
There's no way the y get stuff like Global Illumination working on a Switch. I was always an advocate for the fact that the Switch is more powerful than most people believe but everything seen in this reveal feels far beyond what is imaginable on the Switch.
Why the fuck are they using 8K textures. Jeebus. I mean it's good to know they can but why would someone do that in an actual game on PS5?
This is an amazing piece of marketing/PR on Sony's behalf. And to think that it doesn't even form part of their 'official' PS5 reveal.
The casual gaming audience are going to see "running on a PS5" plastered all over this footage and assume that it alone is capable of this level of performance, especially given the massive own goal that was Microsoft's XSX 'reveal event' last week.
I'm sure that MS are going to pull out some similarly impressive stuff over the next couple of weeks but they are waging a marketing war with Sony and they just took a major victory against the XSX and they didn't even have to 'do' anything.
The casual gaming audience are going to see "running on a PS5" plastered all over this footage and assume that it alone is capable of this level of performance, especially given the massive own goal that was Microsoft's XSX 'reveal event' last week.
I'm sure that MS are going to pull out some similarly impressive stuff over the next couple of weeks but they are waging a marketing war with Sony and they just took a major victory against the XSX and they didn't even have to 'do' anything.
Yep, real time GI is a game changer. Here's an example that everyone should know. Assassin's Creed Unity, the only reason that game looks so good is because of baked GI. Because of the baked lighting there was no day/night cycle and The lighting data took up most of the game's installation size. So imagine a game that can look as good as AC Unity, but can have a day/night cycle and small install size.
Yeah. I was just wondering yesterday what could happen if devs target 1440p or 1080p even next gen. Extremely pleased devs, moreover engine developers, are not letting some march to 4K native get in the way of new rendering techniques.
I wonder what the extra load will be on studios needing to generate insane high quality assets. Maybe procedural techniques might help out on that front? But more complex procedural stuff is pretty hard to combine with raytracing, hmmm.
SMH about any adult who keeps using these demonstrations for console wars. 💢