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[UNMARKED SPOILERS] Kingdom Hearts III & ReMind DLC- Spoiler Thread
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Of course he didn't. He's been eating sea salt ice cream since it was cancelled.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it could be that it really did pass a loooooong time for Aqua, even if the time flows differently in the RoD, but at the same time it could be that people also don't age (or not properly) in the RoD
Nah man, Repliku and Riku are bros4lyfe now.
Is it the line which apparently states that 'the one who wants to see you most will come to pick you up?'
Regarding the woman that Lea and Isa were talking about:
Could it not also be that they meant Kairi? We know that Kairi was a part of the experiments before she landed in DI and maybe they two just don't recognise teen-Kairi and this all was just brought up to show that everyone is somehow connected?
Could it not also be that they meant Kairi? We know that Kairi was a part of the experiments before she landed in DI and maybe they two just don't recognise teen-Kairi and this all was just brought up to show that everyone is somehow connected?
According to the reports the girl they talk about is 15 or so and Kairi is like 5 when she's in radiant garden
Have you read the secret reports?
It's a 15 year old amnesiac that says "may your heart be your guiding key".
It's Skuld.
I hope he isn't someone we know, but the fact that he wears the black cloak with the hood makes me think he's somebody we know, otherwise why hide it?
Anyone else felt nothing when Kairi was struck down by Xehanort? If Nomura was trying to pull an Aerith, it had zero impact on me.
If anything, it made me mad that Kairi was a damsel in distress again
If anything, it made me mad that Kairi was a damsel in distress again
Yeah I was more refering to the Japanese version which only had VR. The US release was much closer to Final Mix, so from what I recall it was a bit of a case of them having extra content ready for Final Mix, so they had time to add some of it to the US release. (MF, Crowns to collect)
The artbook that comes with the game mentions something about 'his secret feelings/thoughts' that he put into the game and how he wonders if you can pick them up.
He's not fooling anyone though, it was obviously Versus 13 and how he can't let go of that game :P
Could also be Ava. Four friends could be the other foretellers. A man with an eyepatch coming to get her I think also fits Luxu/Xigbar getting a foreteller better than Xigbar getting Skuld, since Skuld & Luxu have not interacted (to our current knowledge).
Yep, absolutely nothing. If it were Aqua or Xion I would have felt something. But Kairi? Nah. Worst character in KH without a doubt, nomura lost his chance to make her into someone worth caring about here.
Nah, Kairi getting owned to motivate Sora is a running joke now. The game even acknowledged that in the ending. I don't think it was meant to be particularly dramatic or surprising. More like "lol not again..."
I made a shocked face at first, maybe because it looked kinda brutal. But after I immediately thought "oh please she isn't dead lol"
Because Luxu has a black-coat and was meant all along to be someone in the Organisation. Also, it indicates that Master of Masters, from the very beginning - had some hand in the ongoings of Xenahort saga, either directly or indirectly.
I won't say I felt nothing, but I felt nothing for Kairi specifically.
I felt really sad for my boy Sora.
If it was Ava, she would have said 5 friends, since she was still friends with Luxu until their battle right before the first Keyblade War.
Luxu also talks about the New Union leaders jumping world lines but doesn't bother to mention Ava having already done so when he talks about wanting to reunite with his friends.
Yeah, that was a really badly executed scene on all fronts. From fridging Kairi at all for "motivation" (as if stopping mass murder/genocide by Xehanort isn't motivation enough) to how its handled in the moment to the aftermath (apparently Sora saves Kairi easypeazy out of screen between the fridging and the ending but disappears/dies in the process). The only thing it makes me hopeful is that Kairi gets more of a spotlight in the next KH game. If Sora is dead/lost to the dark abyss, then I hope KHIV doesn't start with Sora but has a sizable chunk where we play as Kairi, to make good of that whole "no, this time I'm gonna protect you" talk that she gave Sora (that was utterly betrayed in KHIII itself)..
IIRC, time passes, just at a weirder/slower rate.
That's exactly what I'd imagine, considering that's more or less the reason why he designed them in the first place.
I already knew what they were going for when Xemnas kidnapped her.
until nomura writes her, Kairi won't be a character, just a pretty dressed plot device.
Even without altering the actual plot development of "Kairi still weak, ends up being killed, Sora has to sacrifice himself to bring her back", I feel like there's quite a few ways that Kairi could've gotten a better spotlight and handling of her character.
For example, if I were writing the Keyblade War sequence:
- I'd make it so that from the very beginning of the Final World sequence, it's shown that Kairi was the one who saved Sora ( basically both Kairi and Sora make it to the Final World )
- you play as 2-party team (Sora and Kairi) during the Final World sequence and Waking the Dead sequence going from world-to-world to revive the dead guardians
- highlight that it was Kairi's light and strength that kept both of them alive during the whole thing (because power of waking is dangerous etc etc)
- don't have Xemnas kidnap Kairi and she follows you to the top
- or even if Xemnas kidnaps Kairi, you save her after defeating Xemnas
- Xehanort decides to attack/kill Sora to forge final key
- Kairi steps in between to take the blow and die to protect him
For example, if I were writing the Keyblade War sequence:
- I'd make it so that from the very beginning of the Final World sequence, it's shown that Kairi was the one who saved Sora ( basically both Kairi and Sora make it to the Final World )
- you play as 2-party team (Sora and Kairi) during the Final World sequence and Waking the Dead sequence going from world-to-world to revive the dead guardians
- highlight that it was Kairi's light and strength that kept both of them alive during the whole thing (because power of waking is dangerous etc etc)
- don't have Xemnas kidnap Kairi and she follows you to the top
- or even if Xemnas kidnaps Kairi, you save her after defeating Xemnas
- Xehanort decides to attack/kill Sora to forge final key
- Kairi steps in between to take the blow and die to protect him
Luxu wasn't with the other Foretellers anymore, so it would have been four. Though now that I think about it more, the Foretellers only come back at the end of KHIII and Skuld makes more sense combined with the fact that she, Ventus, Marluxia & others jumped to another timeline or whatever and seem to have lost their memories. Technically Ava could've been with them too but I'm not sure we have anything to prove that.
There's a secret report by Luxu that says the new union leaders jumped worldlines to avoid destruction and it came "at a cost".
Basically how Ventus and Marluxia exist in the present and why they don't remember anything.
Basically just parallel universes or KH's (convoluted) version of such.
How long until we find out that Sora is the Master of Masters? As someone who is familiar, but not 100% fluent in KH lore, I thought Nomura was leading us up to a wicked plot twist like this in the final act.
They mentioned Sora had three hearts in him and... I figured they were Ven, Roxas, and (somehow) Xehanort. Then that scrap of Xehanort would lead him down a path that would eventually make him the Master of Masters. Which could address why Luxu seems to be aware of what's in store for Sora. It would betray every major theme of the story so far, but it would have been awesome as far as the story is concerned, dramatically changing the course of the narrative. I like this version of the story much more. It will be my headcanon.
They mentioned Sora had three hearts in him and... I figured they were Ven, Roxas, and (somehow) Xehanort. Then that scrap of Xehanort would lead him down a path that would eventually make him the Master of Masters. Which could address why Luxu seems to be aware of what's in store for Sora. It would betray every major theme of the story so far, but it would have been awesome as far as the story is concerned, dramatically changing the course of the narrative. I like this version of the story much more. It will be my headcanon.
If it was Riku I would've lost my shit. They're the real OTP. Kairi deserved more stuff to do than to get her ass kicked then die
I wanted to see more interaction between Ven and Roxas outside of Ven looking a little uneasy.
Kairi continues to be somebody of such insignificance in the series that I don't get why she's still even around, really. Unlike everything else, we really haven't seen her or her relationship with Sora grow, we're just kind of told it's a thing.
So when Xehanort kills her it's like... I get why I'm supposed to care, I just don't.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Yeah I haven't read/collected the reports yet
That would be 100 times better really, simple changes all around too.
I mean, how are we supposed to care about anyone dying when the series has made its point that everyone can somehow be saved? There are no stakes.
Roxas demise was sad because we wouldn't see him again. The same goes for Axel and Xion. Now that everyone is back and even the bad guys are somehow the good guys, what's there to care about when someone dies?
Nomura, for all the flack he rightfully gets with his writing, really can do emotional character moments. Kairi is written as though she deserves the same emotional weight as Xion gets in Days, but we don't have nearly enough time with her for there to be any sort of payoff. She's just cardboard, all we know about her is that she likes Sora, is from Radiant Garden... is a girl? We never get any actual growth or development for her like we do Sora and Riku, and barely see them interact outside of her being a damsel who needs saving.
Knowing that she can be saved is a given, but the moment should've had more gravity. Could've had Xehanort play up the demise he was giving her to be some sort of next level death... it wouldn't be the first time they've changed the rules to put characters in mortal peril.
Btw I forgot to ask this but do we know what was the moment that the first leaker's brother hated so much?
The first scene at the keyblale graveyard?
Kairi dying?
The first scene at the keyblale graveyard?
Kairi dying?
I agree. Unlike VII / Crisis Core and several other FF titles, there is nothing at stake here in KH. Everyone in the series never truly dies, even the "bad" guys. I would rather have these characters live on as legacies (like Zack etc) rather than being "saved" to appease their respective fan bases. Don't get me wrong, I love Xion, Axel and Roxas. In fact, they're amongst my favourites but I felt that their "resurrections" just made their deaths a lot less emotional. Xion's death in particular will always be one of my top KH moments. And Roxas saying "Guess my summer vacation is over" is another top tier moment too.
Again, don't hate me but I felt the trio should have remained dead.
There is absolutely no official statement that says time flows faster in RoD.
Kairi in general, just doesn't have a compelling arc of her own.
Nowhere close to Xion or Namine in the least.
Xion's arc in Days is well-documented, and although it's bite-sized, Namine's overall arc that is spread across CoM, Days and II was really good. She went from a demure girl who was manipulated by the Organisation, and touched by Sora, becomes one of his silent guardians that works to ensure that he would be restored, no matter what.
Also, she saved Kairi in KH2. :D
#giveherakeybladeinKH4
Nowhere close to Xion or Namine in the least.
Xion's arc in Days is well-documented, and although it's bite-sized, Namine's overall arc that is spread across CoM, Days and II was really good. She went from a demure girl who was manipulated by the Organisation, and touched by Sora, becomes one of his silent guardians that works to ensure that he would be restored, no matter what.
Also, she saved Kairi in KH2. :D
#giveherakeybladeinKH4
At least the other trios got their well deserved return. Was a long time coming.
Yeah hahaha. back then the leaker accidentally posted a video on Reddit with Riku RoD gameplay and on the background of the video he was saying
something about Aqua dying.He deleted this video like a minute after he uploaded it so no one had time to make a copy but some people saw the video
and that's who this whole speculation started xD.
Btw you missed some really funny moments back then , I recommend you to try and check the first pages of the spoiler thread, it was really wild