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[UNMARKED SPOILERS] Kingdom Hearts III & ReMind DLC- Spoiler Thread

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I cannot seem to get into III.

This is coming from someone that's been a fan for 14 bought the original soundtrack on CD in 2004, good memories).

II was really the peak of the series for me. Then it peaked twice with BBS.

Something is missing in III. Which is a shame considering this one's got the payoff I've been waiting 14 years for.

Maybe it's a spell, we'll see. It's gorgeous, but for some reason I just want to go back and play II whenever I'm playing III.
 
Neil98

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Imagine KH4: New York (Avengers), Tatooine (Star Wars), Shibuya (TWEWY), Insomnia-like city (Versus XIII remade), Zootopia (Zootopia), Radiant Garden, Jungle Mayhem (Jungle Book), Hawaii (Lilo & Stitch), Riley's Mind (Inside Out), Motunui (Moana). It could be legendary.
 
PlanetSmasher

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Neil98 said:
Imagine KH4: New York (Avengers), Tatooine (Star Wars), Shibuya (TWEWY), Insomnia-like city (Versus XIII remade), Zootopia (Zootopia), Radiant Garden, Jungle Mayhem (Jungle Book), Hawaii (Lilo & Stitch), Riley's Mind (Inside Out), Motunui (Moana). It could be legendary.
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Switch either Moana or Lilo & Stitch for Coco and it could work. I don't think two beach/ocean worlds would really work well in the same game.
 
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Neil98 said:
Imagine KH4: New York (Avengers), Tatooine (Star Wars), Shibuya (TWEWY), Insomnia-like city (Versus XIII remade), Zootopia (Zootopia), Radiant Garden, Jungle Mayhem (Jungle Book), Hawaii (Lilo & Stitch), Riley's Mind (Inside Out), Motunui (Moana). It could be legendary.
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Coco needs to be in as well.
 
saiko

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Wispmetas said:
I really liked the boss, it felt pretty epic to me, but more grounded than 1 and 2.

The first phase against those figures gets crazy, I mean look at this:

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That's crazy, the scope of this attack is enormous.

The second phase, Xehanort literally twists the city around you, and you fight on land, in the water and finally in the air!

The third phase, feels like the more grounded of them all, just like the final part of Xemnas. But damn when Xehanort calls Kingdom Hearts and you get to fight with it in the background is so cool!

I don't know, all the other final fights just felt like cool concepts, but they were all really abstract, yeah in KH2 you're going inside a giant dragon spaceship (that I just now found out is Xemnas in a dragon form?) I don't even know... And in KH1 you fight agains Ansem that for some reason transforms into another spaceship that looks like is made of flesh.

So maybe Xehanort should just have transfomed into a spaceship made with Scala Ad Caelum. And the music should have been better.
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The sad part is some people missed the DM in the first phase by being too overleveled. It really adds to the epicness of that fight.
 
Luigi87

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What an ending!
Finished it, loved it
... Went through the whole game without armor equipped, but the final boss was driving me nuts, so equipped it and breezed him <_<
I have so many thoughts and feelings right now about everything...


Although, Master Xehanort never transformed into a space boat dragon thing, so can we really say that was a true final boss ;)
 
Dary

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I cannot seem to get into III.

This is coming from someone that's been a fan for 14 bought the original soundtrack on CD in 2004, good memories).

II was really the peak of the series for me. Then it peaked twice with BBS.

Something is missing in III. Which is a shame considering this one's got the payoff I've been waiting 14 years for.

Maybe it's a spell, we'll see. It's gorgeous, but for some reason I just want to go back and play II whenever I'm playing III.
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The more I stew on it, the more I think the lack of original/hub worlds hurts it more than anything. They provided a foundation on which to build Sora's journey, and helped with pacing by giving the player a chance to breathe, and to interact with allies outside of cutscenes.

I mean, KH3 gives Sora a phone, but he can't even call people outside of cutscenes!

Radiant Garden is especially conspicuous in its absence. It was, in many ways, a character of its own, with its restoration a direct and visible result of our actions. Then, in BBS, we get to see it before its downfall, further emphasising Xehanort's villainy. KH3 could have given us the chance to see it again in full bloom. And it's not without plot relevance, either, as the copious cutscenes set there demonstrate. (There's also the issue of Aqua's armour - if she'd recovered that before racing off to the finale...)

Maybe DLC will fix all this. As it stands, though, KH3, with its relentless march forward and eagerness to set up future games, feels more like a spin-off - DDD especially - than either of its numbeted predecessors :/
 
badcrumble

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I think it's interesting (and likely quite intentional) that Xemnas's goat-Foreteller armor is quite distinct from his KH2/No Heart armor.
 
Tesser

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Neil98 said:
Imagine KH4: New York (Avengers), Tatooine (Star Wars), Shibuya (TWEWY), Insomnia-like city (Versus XIII remade), Zootopia (Zootopia), Radiant Garden, Jungle Mayhem (Jungle Book), Hawaii (Lilo & Stitch), Riley's Mind (Inside Out), Motunui (Moana). It could be legendary.
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...not before we see more Squeenix representation and Sora gets transported to the world of Octopath Traveler. Spending a few hours as a HD-2D® sprite - Sora finally getting in the mood, proclaiming his keyblade to be unbending and that it's a good day to fight rank 1 old ladies.
 
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PlanetSmasher said:
So here's a question: what's the thing about the final world that Nomura said he got into the game but didn't think he'd be allowed to do?

Was it killing Kairi? Or was it "lol time to fight the entire Organization at the same time"?
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I think he planned to include the location of the secret ending as the final boss fight area but wasn't sure if he was allowed to include it because of his history with Versus XIII.

The interview where he said that the endgame is something he always wanted to include since FF makes me think of this and his Versus obsession really shows in KH3.

But obviously some things got cut. My theory is that Scala ad Caelum was originally planned as the first world we visit (Cable Town) and was never meant to be the final boss fight area. Honestly, it looks too ambitious and polished to be used only for just that one fight. There were playable areas and gameplay back in 2014. No way in hell they had the last world ready that early in development.

It seems like Nomura is now obsessed with KH4 because he can make his Versus dream a reality. It fits his statement that he wants to make the next KH game asap and that he doesn't want to release that much DLC for KH3.

On another note, the game builds up hype for Roxas but in the end he didn't have such a big, important role. Also Nomura said that Roxas is a big secret in KH3 which is an odd statement now. I believe he had much bigger plans with him but it was changed in the last seconds.

Of course everything is speculation but I am curious of how plans for this game looked like.
 
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There are some parts of Kairi I liked. I mean she as a character is pretty resolved to no longer be a liability going forward. Everyone gets bodied by the heartless tornado so it's understandable for her to take the L there. Ultimately it was Kairi's belief in Sora that allowed him to come back at all to my understanding. So in a way she did effectively save him, just not with outright strength. Xehanort likely could have murked anyone, but was smart enough to see Kairi as a weakness for Sora and an easy target.
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So you're saying Kairi's belief in a man's ability to save the day was one of her positive qualities as a character?

Yeah no she was a complete disaster by the end IMO
 
Zimmy64

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So, what's everyone's favorite gummi twitter message/hashtag. My are...

The #DoSomethingDonald hashtag in Arendelle. I don't know why I just think it's hilarious.

The message in Monstropolis that's like "Turns out Ventus is in my heart and Vanitas wants him, IDK" #Awkwardtimetofindout, and

Kairi's "Me and Axel are having fun training in Merlin's secret forest" #SecretForest
 
WrenchNinja

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So when Young Xehanort says that the Power of Waking is supposed to be for "Traveling hearts to get to worlds, not traveling worlds to get to hearts", what does that mean exactly?

Like someone explain it using the examples we've seen of this power? (Riku waking up Sora in DDD, Sora waking up Ventus in this game, Sora saving everyone in this game from the Lich)
 
Hailinel

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Trigonometrize said:
So you're saying Kairi's belief in a man's ability to save the day was one of her positive qualities as a character?

Yeah no she was a complete disaster by the end IMO
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That's not what was argued.

Kairi guided Sora to the others so that their hearts could be freed. She herself wasn't in that same peril, but she's also not a Keyblade wielder anywhere on the level of Sora, Aqua, or the other more experienced characters.
 
PlanetSmasher

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So, uh. Here's a question.

If Xehanort's Guardian has been Terra all along...how the hell did Riku have access to it?
 
Kinsei

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PlanetSmasher said:
So, uh. Here's a question.

If Xehanort's Guardian has been Terra all along...how the hell did Riku have access to it?
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Cause Nomura makes this shit up as he goes.

In universe explanation. Something something Riku calling upon the remnants of darkness Ansem SoD left behind gave him the ability to control Terra's heartless.
 
Zimmy64

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WrenchNinja said:
So when Young Xehanort says that the Power of Waking is supposed to be for "Traveling hearts to get to worlds, not traveling worlds to get to hearts", what does that mean exactly?

Like someone explain it using the examples we've seen of this power? (Riku waking up Sora in DDD, Sora waking up Ventus in this game, Sora saving everyone in this game from the Lich)
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I think that's supposed to be a wait and see thing. My guess is that it's somehow related to traversing worldlines. Although that implies that YX is aware of the existence of Multiple worldlines.
 
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WrenchNinja said:
So when Young Xehanort says that the Power of Waking is supposed to be for "Traveling hearts to get to worlds, not traveling worlds to get to hearts", what does that mean exactly?

Like someone explain it using the examples we've seen of this power? (Riku waking up Sora in DDD, Sora waking up Ventus in this game, Sora saving everyone in this game from the Lich)
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The way I see it, it's about retrieving hearts from worlds inside of a person (like Dive to the Heart), and not going to actual worlds to awaken the hearts.
 
ApexNorth

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Can I get some Gummi Ship help. I am trying to get 20 treasures for the trophy, but I am a little confused.

I can't seem to find anymore battles to do in Starlight Way but I am still missing three treasures. Is the only way of getting them by getting a A ranking in battles?

As I am talking about battles, I have noticed a gold star on some while others have red stars. I assume the gold stars are the ones I have completed?
 
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ApexNorth said:
Can I get some Gummi Ship help. I am trying to get 20 treasures for the trophy, but I am a little confused.

I can't seem to find anymore battles to do in Starlight Way but I am still missing three treasures. Is the only way of getting them by getting a A ranking in battles?

As I am talking about battles, I have noticed a gold star on some while others have red stars. I assume the gold stars are the ones I have completed?
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You need A rankings on the missions for unique treasures. I think some or maybe all the prize spheres also give you unique treasures. The gold stars are normal missions while red stars are bosses. I don't think there's an indication of what missions you've already done, other than going through your mission list and placing your marker on every mission you've done with the same number of stars and seeing if the mission you're near is one of them.
Also, I don't think the trophy pops until you open the menu with the treasures. That was tripping me up for a while.
 
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Hexa said:
You need A rankings on the missions for unique treasures. I think some or maybe all the prize spheres also give you unique treasures. The gold stars are normal missions while red stars are bosses. I don't think there's an indication of what missions you've already done, other than going through your mission list and placing your marker on every mission you've done with the same number of stars and seeing if the mission you're near is one of them.
Also, I don't think the trophy pops until you open the menu with the treasures. That was tripping me up for a while.
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Damn, this forum is incredibly helpful! Thank you, I have made note of the opening menu thing just in case the trophy get's stuck.
 
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Just finished Frozen and wow that was disappointing. Up until now the worlds have been pretty great (even Toy Story), but they dropped the ball big time with this level. Sora and Co. just showing up for the briefest story tidbits was like the movie theater employee coming in to check the theater sporadically throughout the movie. They recreated all of Corona why not actually add Arendelle in this? At least Larxene and the boss fight were cool (LOL at Hans not even speaking though)
 
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Aqua wasn't so bad in III, she spent a decade in the most physical and emotionally draining place ever.

Sora got back to level 1 by just a close encounter
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It was just annoying to see the coolest character in BBS get her ass handed to her constantly despite being a Keyblade master. Just as annoying as it was to have Kairi train for an enture game only for her to do jack shit in the end.
 
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VPplaya said:
Just finished Frozen and wow that was disappointing. Up until now the worlds have been pretty great (even Toy Story), but they dropped the ball big time with this level. Sora and Co. just showing up for the briefest story tidbits was like the movie theater employee coming in to check the theater sporadically throughout the movie. They recreated all of Corona why not actually add Arendelle in this? At least Larxene and the boss fight were cool (LOL at Hans not even speaking though)
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It honestly feels like Frozen World had the most 'Disney restriction' since they were doing stuff that no other Disney worlds were doing including the Let It Go piece.

The whole Frozen arc was basically Sora being 'blocked' from being allowed to be a material emotional impact on the Disney character's personal arc. He was allowed to watch and chat with them a little, but beyond that is NOPE.
 
Iloelemen

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So is it true that the events of this game is canon to Toy Story?
What about Big Hero 6? Will there be two Baymaxes in the newest episodes of the animated series?
 
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I think Nomura lost his mind and actually made Verus XIII featuring Disney characters. You fight against 13 darkness so that's literal Versus 13, then Verum Rex, then secret ending. I don't know if he's salty his game got canceled, but i sure am salty he showed this much in KH3
 
SolVanderlyn

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My question is why Terranort still had his younger, just-possessed appearance when the last time he was complete he was slightly older, and with different clothes and a different hairstyle.

I wanted to see Apprentice Xehanort in the present for once. I get that that's who Terranort is, but still.
 
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My question is why Terranort still had his younger, just-possessed appearance when the last time he was complete he was slightly older, and with different clothes and a different hairstyle.

I wanted to see Apprentice Xehanort in the present for once. I get that that's who Terranort is, but still.
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Apprentice Xehanort doesn't have a fighting style though. He's just a scientist, after all
 
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SolVanderlyn said:
My question is why Terranort still had his younger, just-possessed appearance when the last time he was complete he was slightly older, and with different clothes and a different hairstyle.

I wanted to see Apprentice Xehanort in the present for once. I get that that's who Terranort is, but still.
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Because Numora wasn't thinking ahead when he made that scene on KH2. Also if only Mickey realised who was right in front of him lmao
 
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Iloelemen said:
So is it true that the events of this game is canon to Toy Story?
What about Big Hero 6? Will there be two Baymaxes in the newest episodes of the animated series?
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Supposedly KH team talked to the creative minds of those series and came up with those scenarios. And how it was worded in that interview it seems they are considerated Canon. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do change that.
 
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I also felt like Aqua got really done dirty, and it bugged me more than I thought it would. Most of her scenes are about her failing, and somehow Terra, Mr Not A Keyblade Master And Was Tempted and Possessed By The Darkness For Most Of The Series' Timeline, was promoted to the Leonardo of the group over her the moment he changed hair-colours. What's that all about?
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That's not how I took that at all. He saw Terra as his son, he felt he failed him by not trusting him back then. Failing at the test was Xehanorts doing playing them all and is what started Terra down the road of darkness. Eraqus asking him to take care of them is passing down his will to his son and letting him know he does trust him.
 
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finally some of these fucking disney characters are pulling their weight. just get sully to fuck up all of organization 13 and we're done with this series in one game
 
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- Sora
- Sulley
- Woody
- Pence
- The Lingering Will
- Ephemer's Ghost
- Jack Sparrow's mouth bacteria

MX shaking on his boots.
 
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