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Umm... Elon Musk shipped CPAP machines to NYC hospitals... These are not ventilators.
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i mean, sure, be an asshole, but if there starts being demand for cpaps as a makeshift ventilator replacement, i don't think my question was much of a stretch.
If you drink bleach because it contains water and Trump/Musk said water is good for you, it is not their fault.
First you'd need one.
Musk stans? Funny. You make something up in your head and believe it to be true. I couldn't care less about Elon. All I know is he's made an effort to help, while you most likely haven't. Shocker coming from the Era elite.
Its beautiful. It sets up future expectations quite beautifully. Life story material right here.
Dr. Jeff Sippel, a critical care specialist at UCHealth, based in Aurora, Colo., said BiPAPs could be used for COVID-19 in a closed system without a mask, if patients are first fitted with a breathing tube.
"The hardware actually fits," he said.
The jury-rigged devices could then be used for less severe COVID-19 patients, as well as for other patients who might not be first in line for a ventilator.
www.npr.org
"The hardware actually fits," he said.
The jury-rigged devices could then be used for less severe COVID-19 patients, as well as for other patients who might not be first in line for a ventilator.
CPAP Machines Were Seen As Ventilator Alternatives, But Could Spread COVID-19
Doctors say the machine that helps some people with sleep apnea keep their airway open at night won't be enough to help an ill COVID-19 patient breathe and could spread the coronavirus to bystanders.
www.npr.org
Yeah the stuff they took had a similar name but wasn't the actual medication.
And I assume "considering" means doing trials, which are definitely happening and are being done seriously.
You got serious issues try using language that isn't homophobic.
Dr. Jeff Sippel, a critical care specialist at UCHealth, based in Aurora, Colo., said BiPAPs could be used for COVID-19 in a closed system without a mask, if patients are first fitted with a breathing tube.
"The hardware actually fits," he said.
The jury-rigged devices could then be used for less severe COVID-19 patients, as well as for other patients who might not be first in line for a ventilator.
CPAP Machines Were Seen As Ventilator Alternatives, But Could Spread COVID-19
Doctors say the machine that helps some people with sleep apnea keep their airway open at night won't be enough to help an ill COVID-19 patient breathe and could spread the coronavirus to bystanders.
This is different and not all BIPAP machines can be used this way. Some are impossible to make a closed system. Some are able to be turned into ventilators. Either way these are very different machines than the CPAP machines noted in the OP
Jesus, eat the rich then give the money to a responsible party at the MoH to acquire the right thing.
You should update your ERA handle, maybe people would pay more attention to your posts. (Who am I kidding, they'll talk around them.)
Thanks for the insights in the thread btw!
I can't imagine they hospital wouldn't ask what kind of ventilators he's delivering
wait a second
why is that NYC hospital twitter calling them ventilators?
they clearly opened and examined them
Thanks, I appreciate it.
You are welcome. :)
I'm pretty sure those aren't the closed system bipap machines you can use on intubated patients. Those are consumer grade machines though I haven't looked into these specific ones.
Google hospital grade bipap machines. They look like the image you see at the top here: https://abc11.com/what-is-ventilator-coronavirus-a-respirator/6063528/
Or midway down here: https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ventilators-new-york-northwell-health-storage
Not really "the one and only time" -- delivering electric cars at scale is pretty impressive and so was doing this on a whim/Twitter wager, but okay go off.
Isn't this actually worse? A hot dog could technically be a sandwich and even ignoring that it does the job that is intended by allowing you to eat it. These don't do what is needed of the device.
Elon has Trump brain. He thinks he knows better than everyone about everything. He knows CPAPs are not ventilators. But he seems to think it's "good enough" or whatever.
lmao at this dumbass and the people defending him. "at least he did something" gtfo with that shit. it's like someone giving you a McDonald's coupon book after a car accident. uhhhh yeah thanks for "helping" bud
From all the anecdotal things I've heard from people working in the hospitals CPAP is not a good alternative if someone needs a ventilator. This is not to mention the fact that there is not a severe shortage of these things so how does this actually help. Those machines will be given to patients that need a CPAP so in the end it will help someone
If you do need it, try to call in for it as soon as you need to because there are delays in some places. My cousin's supplier said there was like a 2 week back up. Not the end of the world if you can use your old tubing for a few more weeks, but be aware.
I always laugh when people use the "bitch eating crackers" thing to defend poor little Elon Musk. The dude is an asshat and could afford to supply large swathes of the country with ventilators at the snap of his fingers but he threw a million dollars at CPAPs for the photo op. Yes, he occasionally does some really good things. He can still be a piece of shit and still deserve all the skepticism (which ironically enough he seems to think is a quality that makes you really really smart based on his response to Coronavirus at times in GENERAL) he gets even with those things.
reminder: elon musk is a pedophile*
*it's a turn of phrase, as decided by law
Somewhere in those twitter posts, the EVent Horizon account wrote that the same anount of money ($1M) could have bought about 20 real ventilators, quoting this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...-states-compete-for-the-devices/#45d9882478b3
The Final Straw on Twitter
“That same $1,000,000 would buy as few as 20 actual invasive ventilators. https://t.co/pvdsZaVUCF”
twitter.com
thank you :) i just ordered a couple backups on amazon just in case and will probably reach out to my supplier tomorrow.
This is a bad analogy because water is mostly harmless (yeah I know people can die from excess) whereas promoting a drug that can have serious side effects or become in short supply for those that actually need it is irresponsible.
The poster you're attacking made more of an effort to help by working the wards for 2 weeks before having to leave.