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Umm... Elon Musk shipped CPAP machines to NYC hospitals... These are not ventilators.

Dan-o

Dan-o

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know, because I have one of these stupid things (fuck snoring, man...)


"But a CPAP might still be helpful, right?"
Maybe... but they have different components, and... they're not recommended because they can contribute to spreading the virus:

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This is the CPAP they got

This is the ventilator ResMed makes

These are not the same and have different bits and pieces in the body.
As far as I'm aware, they can't retrofit them, safely, into ventilators, so... what the fuck?


Distance me, socially, if old.
 
Viewt

Viewt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not surprised that the dude who forces factory workers to ignore safety concerns and industry best practices is cutting corners and embellishing his deliverable.
 
kmfdmpig

kmfdmpig

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Oct 25, 2017
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Musk is all about the spotlight, not about actually helping with these things. Who will he accuse of being a pedophile to deflect from his incompetence this time?
 
boontobias

boontobias

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It's as though relying on the geneorosity of individuals and corporations when an organized coherent response by the federal government is impossible is not the ideal way to fight a pandemic.
 
Scuffed

Scuffed

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Oct 28, 2017
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Holy shit what an idiot! These would be TERRIBLE to use for this! They would just spread it all around!
 
bionic77

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Oct 25, 2017
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Damn Musk got scammed by Ali Baba.

Don't worry champ. It has happened to the best of us.

Ok maybe not the best of us, but it does happen.
 
Baccus

Baccus

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Dec 4, 2018
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Billionaires not being a solution in the slightest? Color me surprised.

The health industry should be nationalized, if not globalized, period.
 
Midramble

Midramble

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well that was an efficient use of $1m. Like, a simple phone call would've cleared that up. Asking anyone would have clarified.
 
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Dan-o

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A week ago, he was praised for providing 1000 units to California. In that case, I didn't see any pictures attached. Could it be... did he fuck up that one, too?

As for the hospitals... I wouldn't blame them for keeping quiet. Free CPAPs are free CPAPs. Smile and nod while you take the billionaire's gifts.
 
impingu1984

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Oct 31, 2017
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I believe CPAP are used for those that are either recovered enough to not require a ventilator or are not sick enough to get require one... So they aren't ventilators but can free up ventilators...

This is on the back the F1 teams in the UK designing and prototyping new CPAP in the UK inside a few days for use pending certification and scaled manufacturing of these. My understanding is the reason is they're easier to get / make and free up ventilators for those that really need them... So feel free to correct if I'm wrong.
 

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I know this place just LOVES to shit on Elon, so I'm sure this won't get much attention.

www.fda.gov

Ventilator Supply Mitigation Strategies

Recommendations for health care providers and facilities in treating patients who require ventilation assistance due to COVID-19 complications
www.fda.gov www.fda.gov

Specifically :

Continuous Positive Airway Pressure (CPAP), auto-CPAP, and bilevel positive airway pressure (BiPAP or BPAP) machines typically used for treatment of sleep apnea (either in the home or facility setting) may be used to support patients with respiratory insufficiency provided appropriate monitoring (as available) and patient condition.
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Rover

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Not that they're the only company doing this, but that photo really comes off like a gross (and now confirmed stupid) PR stunt.
 

Airegin

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Dan-o said:
A week ago, he was praised for providing 1000 units to California. In that case, I didn't see any pictures attached. Could it be... did he fuck up that one, too?

As for the hospitals... I wouldn't blame them for keeping quiet. Free CPAPs are free CPAPs. Smile and nod while you take the billionaire's gifts.
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Ventilators cost $15,000+ per unit. I highly doubt he bought 15 million worth.
 
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