This shit really fucks me off.
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...otests?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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UK school stops LGBT lessons after parents protest
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They're projecting their own insecurities onto them.
I see it all the time, with people close to me also. Boys have to be 'boys' and that's it. The kids are petrified of being perceived to be anything outside of the norm. I saw one 5 year old turn into a puddle of tears because an adult gave him an Elsa bottle of Volvic rather than a Cars one.
For kids caught up in this who are actually different, or who are gay? It's child abuse really, fullstop. I can't overemphasize that. If you, as a parental or central figure in a child's life, shame a child for something about themselves that they cannot change, you are psychologically abusing them, and risk leaving them with a kind of PTSD that lingers well into adulthood. But these people don't think about this, because they refuse to acknowledge that these kids exist. They think 'difference' and 'homosexuality' comes later (if they don't believe it's a choice). Their ignorance on this = children suffering with mental torture in silence.
I'd love to see what was in the curriculum here. I doubt for the younger ones it was anything more than acknowledging gay people and families headed by gay couples exist and are to be respected. I bet this was all whipped up by a few ultra-conservatives who completely misrepresented the situation and leaned in on the latent homophobia of the rest. Like anti-vaxx stuff, people lose their heads whenever someone starts talking about 'protecting your kids'.
As for what the gov should do - if you want to run a strictly religious school, then it should be funded privately. But god help any of your kids for the hell you'll put them through if they are different, and god help your conscience.
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What the fuck. They should keep going anyway, despite the protests. Where I work (in Sweden, which probably has different legislation for this sort of thing) we inform our students - both teens and adults, many of which muslims - of human rights, including those of the LGBTQ community, and if anyone has a problem with that, well, too fucking bad. I can, and have taken the debate with people of various religious beliefs who disagree and doesn't want to listen to us speak about how you have to treat, say, transgender people with the same respect as anyone else, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Don't give in to this bullshit, Parkfield. Don't give the bigots an inch.
Remember kids, the rights and humanity of LGBT people just stop existing when enough nasty little busybodies get miffed enough.
If you're LGBT yourself, well, that's nothing that a lifetime of internalized shame, repression, and misdirected rage can't cure. Have fun.
If you're LGBT yourself, well, that's nothing that a lifetime of internalized shame, repression, and misdirected rage can't cure. Have fun.
Shameful, this kind of education is exactly what the world needs.
Fuck the parents, but also fuck the school/system for caving.
The more I think about the difference that this class could've made, the angrier I get.
Fuck the parents, but also fuck the school/system for caving.
The more I think about the difference that this class could've made, the angrier I get.
God forbid your kids not turn out to be fucking assholes, let alone have the support they need if they themselves are LGBT
Fucking idiots.
Fucking idiots.
Some parents are knob heads
This video on the BBC has one and she doesn't even see it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-47419895/why-are-bame-girls-less-likely-to-get-the-hpv-jab
This video on the BBC has one and she doesn't even see it
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-47419895/why-are-bame-girls-less-likely-to-get-the-hpv-jab
That's pretty much it. It's difficult from the school's perspective to fight against such ingrained prejudices without bigoted parents spoiling everything.
How do you solve an issue like this where the kids will basically unlearn everything they hear at school about LGBT issues when they go home to their parents anyway? If your parents are bigots, you have to be an intelligent and brave kid not to fall into the same thing.
And then they send them to a faith school where it's even worse.
At a bare minimum our Government should not be publicly funding ANY faith school. If you want to send your kids to one it should have to be funded out of your own pocket.
Why? As much as people say they're 'Christian' in the UK, they really aren't and just pay lip-service. Especially to the extent of being anywhere near an American definition of Christian.
Add that and a big Muslim population in Brum and it's no surprise at all. The Muslim community in Britain has a big issue with homophobia, I'm at work so can't link the studies but it's not exactly great.
Yeah Christianity is vanilla ice cream in the UK. We've all got it in the freezer just in case.
One of my school mates when I was like 10 was... Mormon, I think?
Anyway, not only was he forbidden from joining the class for stuff like Easter, St. Nicolas or Christmas, but also Fasching(Carnival), where kids just dress up like a non-scary Halloween.
I still got the drawing someone made to show off the costumes he missed, with him included...
Bah.
I get that faith is something uplifting, empowering and positive for some, but this stuff makes it a prison you force your kids into.
Fuck these parents.
Was just about to post this. I was shocked when watching it. What a vile and clueless MP... How LGBT = 18+ rhetoric is still being spouted in 2019 I do not know.
In my personal experience that is the same in continental Europe. Every time I've came into contact with Muslim faith it has been pretty toxic. Ranging from "women are worthless and only exist to produce male offspring" to "physical, sexual and emotional abuse of children is part of our Muslim faith and culture".
Same goes for all the shit the Catholic church pulls off. No one dares to go against that for fear of alienating voters.
Meanwhile, let's consider what all this does to kids in schools right now coming to terms with their sexuality, knowing how desperate their parents are for them not to be this.
We are learning nothing. Yeah, it's better now when you're an adult and gay, but until then, you're still stuck in a timewarp. And it's precisely at this time when you're least able to deal with this shit.
I'm not sure what's meant to be covered right now, but it's actually being updated for the 2020 school year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47357372
That area is basically a Pakistani/Bangladeshi immigrant community so no, it's not a surprise.
I feel bad for the kids. Many of them will be gay, bi or trans and they've just had their faces rubbed in how much their parents will despise them if they ever come out. Disgusting.
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...lgbt-lessons-after-religious-parents-complain
Can't quite tell if 98% is a bit hyperbolic or not.
All sounds really sane and helpful, too much conservative wants to regress not give children the tools they need to survive and thrive in society, mental health learning is a bless for everyone
I don't know the exact numbers but 9/10 wouldn't be a shock to me tbh.
Without seeing the specifics, if this is the intention:
and if that is manifested appropriately, then the scandal here should be in what these parents are doing.
As for religion as a 'protected characteristic', I'm sorry, but religion doesn't trump an innate human quality. I understand that these parents obviously don't see homosexuality as something innate - they see it as a 'lifestyle choice' or whatever - but their ignorance should not be pandered to. The government shouldn't back down on this.
Christianity here is not like it is in the US. And while we shouldn't discriminate against Muslims, let's be real for a second, it's still a religion. Insular communities of Muslims that live in isolation from the rest of a nation are gonna have some pretty fucking unacceptable views.
She can fuck off 'n' all.
It does sound good, but parents will still have the right to withdraw their children if they don't like the content being taught. This material should be mandatory.