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Zomba13

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Oct 25, 2017
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dunno why people are surprised. the government's entire response to this has been to look after the economy at the cost of humans
That's the Tory response to everything though. But more their personal economy than the countries.

I hated Johnson before now I want him to be the loved one that is lost...
 

RellikSK

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Nov 1, 2017
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I honestly can't believe that the Conservatives would leave the older population vulnerable. Everything Johnson does is to keep power and increase chance of re-election. Older people generally vote for them, they would essentially be killing of parts of their voter base and annoying the others.
 

Gawge

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Oct 27, 2017
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The press in this country continue to surpass themselves.

Moving swiftly from defence of the government policy, to defence of the U-turn in 24 hours.

Even supposed satire outlets like 'Have I Got News For You' putting out stuff like 'Barry from Wigan disagrees with the government approach, what an idiot'.

The entire journalist and media class seems to exist only to hold the public to account. They support and placate the rulers.
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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At least the #Boristhebutcher thing made me laugh, "he went on holiday during the floods and now he's siding with the virus"
 

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As seen on Twitter, they leaked the next stage out through the Spectator on a Saturday night

People over 70 will be instructed by the government to stay in strict isolation at home or in care homes for four months, under a 'wartime-style' mobilisation effort by the government likely to be enforced within the next 20 days.

It is part of a series of measures being prepared by the prime minister, health secretary, chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser to prevent the health service from 'falling over' and to save lives as coronavirus, Covid-19, becomes an epidemic in the UK.
Loneliness and starvation will kill any coronavirus doesn't
 

JonnyDBrit

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Oct 25, 2017
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As seen on Twitter, they leaked the next stage out through the Spectator on a Saturday night


Loneliness and starvation will kill any coronavirus doesn't


There literally isn't the infrastructure for this. Worse still would be the knock-on effect of those nor quite near 70 but close enough feeling pressured to take it up as well. Many of whom are each other's support network when it comes to shopping and such

These are the people who need protecting most from the disease, and this is the answer Johnson and co may have come up with? Fuck me
 

Kalor

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Oct 25, 2017
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For fucks sake. Loneliness is enough of an issue in this country nevermind having the government make people feel pressured to stay inside. And there's the people who don't have the friends or family to help them out with food/supplies.

It also raises the question of what happens with people under 70 but with underlying health issues. Will something happen there as well?
 

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For fucks sake. Loneliness is enough of an issue in this country nevermind having the government make people feel pressured to stay inside. And there's the people who don't have the friends or family to help them out with food/supplies.
Don't worry. Uber and Deliveroo will be handling that for them. You know, those tech savvy 70 year olds.
 

phisheep

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Oct 26, 2017
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As seen on Twitter, they leaked the next stage out through the Spectator on a Saturday night


Loneliness and starvation will kill any coronavirus doesn't


Plus "instructed"? At least they could be polite about it and say "advised" rather than presuming powers that the government does not have.
 

CandySTX

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It also raises the question of what happens with people under 70 but with underlying health issues. Will something happen there as well?
We already know what the mindset there will be. Say underlying health conditions to a Tory, and they hear unproductive benefit scrounger.
Just another weapon in their war upon the sick and poor.
 

RellikSK

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Nov 1, 2017
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Survival of the fittest


Read this thread by Andy Burnham, it talks about he handled and what he learnt from SwineFlu outbreak a few years ago. Then compare it to Matt Hancock and this government.
 

Stuart444

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Oct 25, 2017
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www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: PM says everyone should avoid office, pubs and travelling

Other "drastic" steps include more working from home and whole households staying at home for 14 days if one person has symptoms.

"We are in a war against an invisible killer," Mr Hancock said, adding that emergency legislation to tackle the virus would be introduced to Parliament on Thursday.

I can't help but feel Emergency should mean introduced that day/the next day. Not almost end of the week.
 

JonnyDBrit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Amidst all this:
www.bbc.co.uk

Bus cuts leave a million people without a regular service

Campaigners said reductions in bus routes and funding had left some people "trapped in their homes".

Having grown up in a town with a good, thorough bus infrastructure, the contrast with the countryside - both in availability and pricing - really does hit you. I really do need my car to get around here
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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Robert Peston, ITV's political editor, has written an interesting blog on the challenge facing Rishi Sunak as he draws up his coronavirus financial rescue packaged. Peston says the scale of the challenge is likely to take the Conservatives into unlikely ideological territory. He says:

As one Tory minister put it to me, these principles imply that Boris Johnson will almost certainly have to oversee a government that for a good year or maybe longer will look quite socialist.
"We'll find ourselves implementing most of Jeremy Corbyn's programme" is how he put it.
As I mentioned, the Treasury and Bank of England will find themselves having to play God in respect of deciding which businesses to save.
And the simplest way to make sure no one goes to work and spreads the virus when they should be self-isolating is to introduce that most debated of modern welfare concepts, the universal basic income - which gives an entitlement to everyone to a minimum income.
Fucking funny old world.
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, but that would be the sane thing

It's a shame we have to live with it really, fucking mentalists cheering them on.


"In response, Raab went further than he did when Ben Bradshaw asked this. He replied:
As far as I'm aware the negotiations can still proceed, given all of the logistical arrangements we've put in place. We are confident we can get this done. And, actually, I don't think delaying Brexit negotiations will give anyone the certainty on either side of the channel that they need."
just now.
 

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Robert Peston, ITV's political editor, has written an interesting blog on the challenge facing Rishi Sunak as he draws up his coronavirus financial rescue packaged. Peston says the scale of the challenge is likely to take the Conservatives into unlikely ideological territory. He says:


Fucking funny old world.
He really did win the argument
 

Unclebenny

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Oct 28, 2017
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From the Guardian liveblog:

UK-EU trade talks called off for this week, but transition won't be extended, says No 10
Downing Street has confirmed that the UK-EU trade talks that were scheduled to take place this week have been cancelled. Originally they were due to take place face-to-face in London, from tomorrow until Friday. The plan for the two teams to meet in person was abandoned last week, but at the time both sides said there was a chance of the talks going ahead via video conferencing. Now they have been shelved for good.
Significantly, No 10 is also ruling out extending the Brexit transition - echoing what Dominic Raab told MPs earlier. (See 1.48pm.)
A government spokesperson said:
In light of the latest guidance on coronavirus, we will not formally be convening negotiating work strands tomorrow in the way we did in the previous round.
We expect to share a draft FTA [free trade agreement] alongside the draft legal texts of a number of the standalone agreements in the near future still, as planned.
Both sides remain fully committed to the negotiations and we remain in regular contact with the European commission to consider alternative ways to continue discussions, including looking at the possibility of video conferencing or conference calls, and exploring flexibility in the structure for the coming weeks.
The transition period ends on 31 December 2020. This is enshrined in UK law.
The final sentence in the statement refers to the fact that the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Act contains a provision saying ministers must not extend the transition.
 

HotHamWater

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Oct 25, 2017
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^ Surprised they haven't sneak-shat the Russian report out during all this. Perhaps they haven't thought of that yet, though. The do seem to be running 2 weeks late across the board atm.