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We're going to get absolutely fucking destroyed if we break our agreements in the withdrawal deal.
I mean, what a great way to show other countries that we can be trusted by signing an agreement and then one month or so later, saying you'll break it nae bother.
god damnit
I mean, what a great way to show other countries that we can be trusted by signing an agreement and then one month or so later, saying you'll break it nae bother.
god damnit
On one hand, time for a fresh shadow front bench
And yet a blatant attempt to try and direct from the sidelines. Please retire, JC
Diane Abbott to stand down from shadow cabinet under new Labour leadership
The London MP says she wants Labour's new leader to be able to choose their own top team.
www.bbc.co.uk
And yet a blatant attempt to try and direct from the sidelines. Please retire, JC
Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn 'would consider shadow cabinet role'
The outgoing Labour leader says he would be "happy" to serve his successor "in any capacity".
www.bbc.co.uk
They asked Ed and eventually he said he would serve under Corbyn, i think it's fine as long as it stays an offer and a sign of unity.
If Keir wins he's more likely to reach out to someone like RLB and not Corbyn to keep the peace anyway.
Not bothered by Corbyn answering the question, I have a bit of an issue with RLB apparently saying she would offer him a place on her team. That isn't really reading the room.And yet a blatant attempt to try and direct from the sidelines. Please retire, JC
Labour leadership: Jeremy Corbyn 'would consider shadow cabinet role'
The outgoing Labour leader says he would be "happy" to serve his successor "in any capacity".www.bbc.co.uk
Alison Fuller again, she needs to get the boot from the show.
I mean, this all could be some massive coincidence - but then you consider the amount of times shit like this has happened on QT...
I don't doubt her identity, but what are the sources for the BBC having intentionally chosen her and paid her to be there? Seems like conspiracy bs from a random Twitter "source"
I haven't delved into this stuff too much as i stopped watching the show years ago, but Alison Fuller over the years is supposed to have retweeted Britain first stuff and other hard conservative media. I don't think they are claiming the BBC paid for her hotel but some other party. So it's not really a story about the BBC so much.
Barnier pours scorn on Johnson's spokesman ahead of trade talks
EU negotiator signals future relationship negotiations are on course for acrimonious start
www.theguardian.com
The EU continues to do the work that we should be doing ourselves.Barnier pours scorn on Johnson's spokesman ahead of trade talks
EU negotiator signals future relationship negotiations are on course for acrimonious start
The DailyMail has an absolutely disgusting headline, completely missing the point, almost as if they are defending a few people.
LBC James O'Brien does a good job going through it. He also mentions the comments by Johnson on "spaffing money up the wall" and comments by a previous whip about using these incidents as a way to control MPs.
James O'Brien's instant reaction to Westminster child sex abuse report
This was James O'Brien's instant reaction to a damning independent report which found senior figures at the highest level of government spent decades turning "a blind eye" to claims of child sex abuse.
www.lbc.co.uk
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The DailyMail has an absolutely disgusting headline, completely missing the point, almost as if they are defending a few people.
LBC James O'Brien does a good job going through it. He also mentions the comments by Johnson on "spaffing money up the wall" and comments by a previous whip about using these incidents as a way to control MPs.
James O'Brien's instant reaction to Westminster child sex abuse report
This was James O'Brien's instant reaction to a damning independent report which found senior figures at the highest level of government spent decades turning "a blind eye" to claims of child sex abuse.
So I dared to look... and my fucking god, they wanna run with the 'no evidence' line?
All there's (supposedly) 'no evidence' for was a specifically organised network.
Meanwhile:
Basically, Westminster might not necessarily be run by paedophiles, but it sure as shit isn't doing much to stop 'em
Andrew Neil tells manufacturing conference that 10 Downing Street is happy to see the end of complex, cross-border supply chains after Brexit. `Those days are coming to an end',
@afneil says Says govt. sees rise of 3D printing, more domestic sourcing as the future
Not sure what Andrew Neil is on about, 3D printers must be a lot better than i imagined.
He... he does understand materials have to come from somewhere, right?
So UK ERA, how are you all feeling about the Labour leadership election?
Ideologically, I would prefer RLB but I feel like she would suffer a similar fate to Corbyn, so perhaps Starmer is the "safer" choice?
I was gutted when Corbyn lost, it was a blow to the international leftist movement. I suppose there's still Bernie later this year...
Ideologically, I would prefer RLB but I feel like she would suffer a similar fate to Corbyn, so perhaps Starmer is the "safer" choice?
I was gutted when Corbyn lost, it was a blow to the international leftist movement. I suppose there's still Bernie later this year...
I don't know much about 3d printing, so i was curious if it sounded a bit Star Trek to others as well.
Wait hold on I just realised, aren't we supposed to be doing more global trade as part of justifying this Brexit bollocks? How does that not involve cross-border trade?
Well, now that JC's gone, I don't think it makes a difference who's in charge, well not for a decade at least anyway.
Seems Boris isn't avoiding Andrew Neil anymore, actually it sounds like the crap that Cummings would spout.
Get out of here with your "logic" and "reason" and other remoaner nonsense.
Will be voting for RLB once my ballot arrives. Been doing some phonebanking and think Starmer is the likely winner, especially as RLB basically needs to win 50% on first preferences.
The frustrating consensus I hear from speaking to a lot of members who often joined because of Corbyn is the move to Starmer because of 'electability'. The devastation of the last election has led a lot of be willing to compromise and move to Starmer because of this 'electability'. However, I personally think Starmer has very little chance of exciting the electorate.
Yes, he will get an easier ride from some of the media initially, but basically only the Guardian (and Mirror) in the long run. The people's vote history of Starmer I think is a real genuine concern. I have no idea how he plans to win back the leave seats lost. He is a pretty terrible speaker. He isn't going to mobilise the kind of forces that RLB could mobilise. There's this idea that what you need is to be a technocrat who takes down Johnson in PMQs with legalese, and you will win by DESTROYING him with FACTS. The only people that pleases are Guardian and Guardian-adjacent journalists and their readers, the people who made it impossible for Labour not to back a second referendum at the last election and played a big part in that defeat.
I'll be feeling fairly dejected if/when he wins. Ed Miliband with a better haircut and less personality.
I'm going for Starmer because the party needs a period of calm, it's not so much about 5 years time, i think he would quit before then if it goes badly. i hope Sanders wins because the stakes are pretty high with the wanna-be Napoleon as his opponent and a corrupt GOP doing whatever he wants.
I'm still undecided but at the moment I'll be giving Nandy my first preference vote and Starmer will be my second. For deputy leadership I'll probably go
Allin-Khan then Rayner with Murray as my last choice.
At the start of this campaign I was quite excited by it but essentially all candidates have disappointed me. Starmer and Rayner have tread water the entire time offering no real vision for the future of the party just hoping to coast in. Long-Bailey and Burgeon have clearly not learned anything from the last 5 years and some of the things they have chosen to talk about are laughable. I'd only vote Nandy through process of elimination as she is willing to discuss changes to the future of the party while sticking to a lot of the recent great policies from recent years. Though I do worry she just says whatever she can to please who she's speaking to, especially considering she ran Owen Smith's campaign lol.
I'm not sure I've ever been an undecided voter in any vote in my life but none of the incessant communication from the candidates are winning me over. Starmer has sent me an A3 poster of his face which is type of thing we do not need for the party.
Allin-Khan then Rayner with Murray as my last choice.
At the start of this campaign I was quite excited by it but essentially all candidates have disappointed me. Starmer and Rayner have tread water the entire time offering no real vision for the future of the party just hoping to coast in. Long-Bailey and Burgeon have clearly not learned anything from the last 5 years and some of the things they have chosen to talk about are laughable. I'd only vote Nandy through process of elimination as she is willing to discuss changes to the future of the party while sticking to a lot of the recent great policies from recent years. Though I do worry she just says whatever she can to please who she's speaking to, especially considering she ran Owen Smith's campaign lol.
I'm not sure I've ever been an undecided voter in any vote in my life but none of the incessant communication from the candidates are winning me over. Starmer has sent me an A3 poster of his face which is type of thing we do not need for the party.
The contest has been shit but that's just the natural consequence of the party being knackered, nobody can go through what Corbyn did and expect to win a general election. and the membership don't want the hostility anymore so it probably wouldn't even win the leadership of the party.
I'm happy to be proven wrong but from what little I've seen of 3D printing it is mostly used by hobbyists and start ups. I think it's a cool idea but industrial scale, I just can't see how you don't end up having to get a specialist to print it for you on a super big machine. Therefore probably having to import it anyway.
This all has the suspicious air of Cummings about it. "Technology will solve our problems, which technology, that one over there!" *scarpers*
You're gonna be surprised at what people have done with 3D printing right now. It has really taken off in mad experimental ways that allows space rockets to be built in a matter of days, fully automated, alongside things like replacement body parts, construction parts, machine parts, etc. Its fucking mad.
But the problem still remains that the UK doesn't have the resources and would need to import everything, the only thing i see it doing is making people redundant in factories.
Still need people to maintain those machines, people trained in their operation, assembly of the parts in the end (whether by machine or hand, still need people). Sure, you need to obtain raw materials (import or home production), but when you just need those and not an infinitisemal amount of different things imported, you can see (and hope) the process of importing is simpler.
Regarding redundancy, the future is automated, if society lasts until then, so redundancies are obvious no matter what. Society will have to accept that and learn how to re-employ people in a new economy.
I just don't trust the Tories to know what to do in that kind of society. They'd happily let people languish while companies grow evermore fat with profit.
Good response by Keir.
i'm going to vote for Keir for leader. I don't have anything against the other two candidates but Keir seems to be the best bet at uniting the party. Hopefully Rebecca and Nandy get jobs in the shadow cabinet because they both seem capable and have something to bring.
For deputy, I haven't chosen between Rosena and Rayner. Would be fine with either, Rayner seems like she is going to win by a landslide anyway.
i'm going to vote for Keir for leader. I don't have anything against the other two candidates but Keir seems to be the best bet at uniting the party. Hopefully Rebecca and Nandy get jobs in the shadow cabinet because they both seem capable and have something to bring.
For deputy, I haven't chosen between Rosena and Rayner. Would be fine with either, Rayner seems like she is going to win by a landslide anyway.
There's someone in that thread saying he should be able to answer the lightweight stuff, He did answer it days ago. It's fucking daft that this and bacon sandwiches stick in people's minds.
The north didn't vote Tory for any reason other than Brexit. We got Brexit done! Now we can get right back to hating Tories for fucking us over, and pretend we didn't bring it on ourselves.
The issue is that it is no easy feat to turn a country that relies heavily on imports into a fully self sustaining country. Especially when the very change that precipitates the need for self sustainability will weaken the country in almost every conceivable way.
I don't think it will even be a case of companies profiting, they will just probably up and leave. We will just have everyone a bit poorer for no real reason.
Of course, my other issue is that the Tory government has shown no real intent or insight to implement the massive changes required. They've just said "technology is the solution" then left it at that.
I appreciate the link, good to know 3D printing is burgeoning beyond it's initial premise.
