After that story on the weekend about Labour not changing course despite the polling, I hope that's still true!
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We will just have to wait and find out, i just don't think RLB looking to people she can work with is a sign that nothing will change, she wants them on side to win the leadership election. if it looks like a set up and coronation then the wheels are going to come off the labour party pretty quickly, she has to perform well on the campaign.
Anyone can change, and no one is beyond help. Don't lose hope.
Sure, and I dont believe all the rumours but we are seeing a worrying amount of info out of RLB campaign for at least the claims of s stitch up and continuity Corbyn accusations to gain traction, which is the last thing we need right now.
IMO most of the policies won't need scrapped - IIRC in a vacuum many of them they've been proved pretty popular in polling, once the association with Corbyn was stripped out.
If there's one thing recent years have proven about much of the electorate, you can take existing policies, fire some febreze and PR spin onto it, and present it as a new policy.
If there's one thing recent years have proven about much of the electorate, you can take existing policies, fire some febreze and PR spin onto it, and present it as a new policy.
It's dull as hell. Don't bother playing. One set of cards all say "Fuck ______". The other deck has cards like "Poor people", "Black people", "Europe", "The climate", "The NHS" and the suchlike. Everyone matches a card from each set, then you read them all out. Then the person whose parents had the most money gets all the points and you go on to the next round.
They don't need scrapping at all, as you said, they're popular.
However there is a sizable amount of the PLP and press who believe the policies are the problem, and they need to go.
The problem comes: if they're kept, the press and the "purge the left" faction of the Labour party will treat it as "continuity Corbyn" and continue to attack them.
I got an alert on my phone yesterday for a story and the title said RLB wants to rule the party with an Iron Fist, the actual story was her saying it would be nice if she could, but she can't and people in the party are just going to have to be adults and sort thing out. or her advisor being a stalinist because of a Trotsky=Ice pick badge.
I'm just going to wait and see, if she's out of her depth it's going to become clear very quickly, i don't sense a repeat of the Corbyn leadership campaign, it's going to be tougher hopefully.
Join or get like minded people to join for the leadership election. It's what I did.
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Ah, I see that journalist from ITV is moonlighting at the Telegraph.
after years of reading about Corbyn these "attacks" feel like nothing.
It's such a step down from Jeremy the jew hating Marxist Nazi Stalinist Czech spy IRA supporting Hamas MVP
Yeah but the association with Corbyn alone has the potential to be devastating. Right off the bat the mainstream interpretation is going to be that Labour are not listening and continuing down the same path with a different leader.
That's for her to challenge, the Labour party wants her to be her own leader as well.
It is. Nothing I've seen so far suggests she's up to that task and none of the decisions she seems to be making in terms of the people around her indicate she's wary of how big of a problem it is.
edit: probably sounds more negative than I actually feel, but I definitely feel pessimistic about her chances in general. I don't think there's any stand out leadership choice to be honest, but certainly a few standout disaster candidates (e.g. Thornberry, Phillips).
Silly, that only applies to "coloured" reporters, such as Naga Munchetty...
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Didn't see posted. These are fighting words from Sands.
You don't quite get the strategy here. Can't go all out, because if she loses we need her to be the voice of true reasonable Labour when she goes up against the new leadership. Whoever is the final leader will start to find a lot of pressure on them to distinguish them as the worst possible candidate for the job, don't you worry.
If you're not on threads like this or aware of certain Twitter accounts etc, I think Jess Phillips is quite well thought of, probably her giving it out to Johnson in that debate etc.
The majority of people aren't anywhere near as in to politics, or as progressive, as this thread.
The majority of people aren't anywhere near as in to politics, or as progressive, as this thread.
That's actually a pretty good number for Nandy with only 28% having heard of her.
But it's the reality. People like Johnson, or dislike him less, than Corbyn. The Tories just got a large majority in the Commons.
It shouldn't be surprising!
It shouldn't be surprising!
Majority of white people you mean. Jess is well known in the black community.
Ok, I think it is time to cancel my subscription to Brexitcast and Remainiacs. No need to be informed about this shit show on a weekly basis anymore. All the best UK.
I think I'll unsubscribe to this thread until 2034. Hopefully, we'll have a Labour party with a chance by then. When is the next planetary alignment btw ?!?
Really the country should reset to year 1 of our Lord and saviour Boris.
Our Farage, who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
The United Kingdom come
Boris' will be done
In Glasgow as it is in Devon.
Imagine Corbyn ending up in here, and this is the first post that he sees...
She wants that centrist vote where black people will only be served by having white people tell them what is good for them. Jess is full of shit. Welcome to a new layer of being marginalised in Britain :-/
Where's me free Internet Jeremy, you useless commie bastard.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.... 27 years later and still relevant (and amusing)
What I don't really get is Brexit was about taking back control, yet in the last week we've sold a big defense contractor to the US, and Centrica have just sold a local power station to the Germans.
Surely handing infrastructure over to external powers we are just giving more control away?
Surely handing infrastructure over to external powers we are just giving more control away?
"Taking back control" never referred to the country, only to the Tories and then further concentrated into a specific subset of MPs.
This is the one silver lining about getting brexit done, catchphrases become disappointing reality, besides free movement everything else was in our control anyway. The British model was out of date and undemocratic 40 years ago, sometimes painfully pathetically so.
So apart from the Conservatives in Westminster seeing their new plan as to downplay the SNP and say 55% of Unionist parties were represented here, it seems to be all over Twitter too, and it's not just Conservative voters, a fair bit of Labour, especially English Labour seem to be at it as well.
It's funny how for once voteshare matters, yet the UK Government doesn't ever talk about changing to proportional representation? They don't want 16-17 year olds voting either. Scotland has both proportional representation and 16-17 year olds can vote.
So there is a lot of idiots in Scotland, chained to be ruled by Britain and scared to go independent in a 5 million population like... every other fucking independent country in Europe with a population of 3~5 million. Not to mention our resources put us way ahead of many countries in Europe. Putting aside the Rangers fans that is, still a lot of idiots here not tied to Unionism in their veins that believed the vow in 2014, believed a massive Labour progressive majority was incoming and believe we'd be better off continuing with Tory reign over us.
However, I'm getting more and more pissed off with English Labour voters. 28% of England thinks Scotland should be able to pass a referendum bill. You guys sit on your asses down south crying and moaning that in your life time you might only remember the Tony Blair Labour Government. Annoying? Try living in Scotland where we haven't voted for a Conservative majority since 1955 and now we've just returned the second highest number of SNP MPs since 2010 yet a good chunk of you lot demand we shut-up, we know our place and we can't survive without you.
Let me make it clear, England does not own Scotland. You don't own our people. Your Union doesn't give you the right to give our democracy utter contempt. Fuck any English Labour voters who think that is so. If I hear any of you moan about democracy or how it's unfair you can't get a Labour majority, then turn around and be almost excited or contemptuous about Scotland wanting to escape Tory reign, you're a massive fucking hypocrite. Fuck you.
Also, have a Merry Christmas.
It's funny how for once voteshare matters, yet the UK Government doesn't ever talk about changing to proportional representation? They don't want 16-17 year olds voting either. Scotland has both proportional representation and 16-17 year olds can vote.
So there is a lot of idiots in Scotland, chained to be ruled by Britain and scared to go independent in a 5 million population like... every other fucking independent country in Europe with a population of 3~5 million. Not to mention our resources put us way ahead of many countries in Europe. Putting aside the Rangers fans that is, still a lot of idiots here not tied to Unionism in their veins that believed the vow in 2014, believed a massive Labour progressive majority was incoming and believe we'd be better off continuing with Tory reign over us.
However, I'm getting more and more pissed off with English Labour voters. 28% of England thinks Scotland should be able to pass a referendum bill. You guys sit on your asses down south crying and moaning that in your life time you might only remember the Tony Blair Labour Government. Annoying? Try living in Scotland where we haven't voted for a Conservative majority since 1955 and now we've just returned the second highest number of SNP MPs since 2010 yet a good chunk of you lot demand we shut-up, we know our place and we can't survive without you.
Let me make it clear, England does not own Scotland. You don't own our people. Your Union doesn't give you the right to give our democracy utter contempt. Fuck any English Labour voters who think that is so. If I hear any of you moan about democracy or how it's unfair you can't get a Labour majority, then turn around and be almost excited or contemptuous about Scotland wanting to escape Tory reign, you're a massive fucking hypocrite. Fuck you.
Also, have a Merry Christmas.
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I've got a mean flu for Christmas and have to go to a big family meal tomorrow. I'm in a mood and got my jimmies rustled this morning reading comments online.
To make matters worse my Uncle whose house I'll be at tomorrow votes Conservative.
Totally wearing a kilt and taking over the Braveheart DVD.
Family be like NO POLITICS TALK AT CHRISTMAS!
Nandy is obsessed with towns, she isn't wrong but if the Ed is going to finish his review then he can't be talking to the voters, that's a big job to get done right.
It's for local parties and the new leader to work out.
^ I'm not actually going to knock Phillips for that, Boris has learnt one thing from Churchill and that is to try and craft your place in the public's mind, a damn sight better than leaving it up to the press by themselves.
It's for local parties and the new leader to work out.
^ I'm not actually going to knock Phillips for that, Boris has learnt one thing from Churchill and that is to try and craft your place in the public's mind, a damn sight better than leaving it up to the press by themselves.
