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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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Yep, only time people think critically about how they rank parties is when you force them to through the voting system.
No offense, but you honestly need to take a step back and think about what you're writing. You keep trying to compare antisemitism to other forms of discrimination for some reason. They're all bad, they all need tackled. Not "Well clearly too much focus is on the Jews!" even if in this particular instance, yes it's being weaponised against a party that is by all accounts led by a man who has spent his career fighting all kinds of discrimination.
The travellers comparison is made slightly more relevant however I guess by the Tory manifesto specifically outlining their plans to increase discrimination against them and introduce laws to harm them further. It's one of those things that makes the "Labour are antisemitic" bullshit that more absurd. The Tories literally put racist shit in their manifesto.
Corbyn responds to Ashworth recording
Jeremy Corbyn has been asked about the leaked conversation between Labour's shadow health secretary Jon Ashworthand a friend.
Mr Ashworth criticised Mr Corbyn in the secret recording, and is heard saying he did not believe Labour would win the election.
Mr Corbyn said Mr Ashworth had "called him straight away" and that the recording on the Guido Fawkes website was "a bit of banter between friends".
Mr Corbyn said Mr Ashworth had said it "was all about reverse psychology banter – as in football".
He added that it was "irrelevant" and added: "The issue is children being treated on the floors of hospital."
Asked if he thinks people would believe Mr Ashworth's claim that it was "banter", Mr Corbyn said: "They can decide for themselves on Thursday whether they want to invest in the health service... or let it be destroyed."
And when pressed about Mr Ashworth's comment that No 10 "will pretty quickly move to safeguard security" if Mr Corbyn were PM, Mr Corbyn replied: "Jon and I have known each other for a very long time and he was actually making some jokes."
He suggested it was an "odd sense of humour" but that Mr Ashworth "makes jokes the whole time".
"Jon Ashworth has done fantastic campaigning for the NHS," he added.
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Jeremy Corbyn has been asked about the leaked conversation between Labour's shadow health secretary Jon Ashworthand a friend.
Mr Ashworth criticised Mr Corbyn in the secret recording, and is heard saying he did not believe Labour would win the election.
Mr Corbyn said Mr Ashworth had "called him straight away" and that the recording on the Guido Fawkes website was "a bit of banter between friends".
Mr Corbyn said Mr Ashworth had said it "was all about reverse psychology banter – as in football".
He added that it was "irrelevant" and added: "The issue is children being treated on the floors of hospital."
Asked if he thinks people would believe Mr Ashworth's claim that it was "banter", Mr Corbyn said: "They can decide for themselves on Thursday whether they want to invest in the health service... or let it be destroyed."
And when pressed about Mr Ashworth's comment that No 10 "will pretty quickly move to safeguard security" if Mr Corbyn were PM, Mr Corbyn replied: "Jon and I have known each other for a very long time and he was actually making some jokes."
He suggested it was an "odd sense of humour" but that Mr Ashworth "makes jokes the whole time".
"Jon Ashworth has done fantastic campaigning for the NHS," he added.
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General election 2019: Conservatives 'see highest rise in Twitter abuse'
Corbyn gets the most, David Lammy and Diane Abbott also see abuse increase (I wonder why; what could those two could possibly have in common), but headline only mentions the poor Tories (bless their cotton socks).
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every blue one disgusts me
Honestly, I'm suprised that Swinson is so far down (6). I'd have expected her at 3, or at 4 (with Gove at 3).
Surprised Patel isn't on there considering what a disgusting, evil fuck she is.
every blue one disgusts me
How reliable is the YouGov poll showing just a 3% Tory lead?
Edit: Ignore me, got duped. fucking twitter
Edit: Ignore me, got duped. fucking twitter
This video is an excellent explainer of the whole Brexit process and shows Labour's deal would be the quickest way of getting Brexit done:
Not exactly a tory friend but lets not pretend there isn't plenty of abuse in the replies whenever boris tweets something. No side really comes looking good out of this.
Yes lol. Remember Hancock was physically abused yesterday, and Boris was mentally abused by that reporter.
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I see it as the modern equivalent of mums gossipping or whatever. Before social media peoples lives were ruined by untrue gossip because people want to believe.
i'm not convinced people screaming in the mentions of boris and corbyn's official twitter feeds (not even run by them) counts as abuse. or if it does then it diminishes what we think of when we think of mp's being abused by the public. I.e genuine threats and harassment.
Well that explains why they won't release the Russian interference report; they're still cribbing it for ideas...
Small world :D Lets hope we don't all have to burn in it together.
Wasn't the yougov MRP supposed to be released today with new data?
I keep meaning to come to the bar that Sky Valley Mistress opened so we'll just start with a gig xD
spotted this LD leaflet on facebook haha, always a classic
the remember really makes it
I couldn't find the current paper, but a previous one defines it as follows:
"We focus on tweets using obscene nouns ("cunt", "twat", etc.), racist or otherwise bigoted language and milder insults ("you idiot", "coward"). In this way, we define "abuse" broadly; "hate speech", where religious, racial or gender groups are denigrated, would be included in this. But we do not limit our analysis to hate speech. We included all manner of personal attacks and threats, but not obscene language (e.g. "fucking", "bloody") as it is less likely to be targeted at the politician personally."
If only Andrew Neil had not pestered Boris for an interview, the
My point was that yes all racisim is bad and comes in different forms. However, the specific focus in the media on antisemitism related to the labour party is unwarranted. There is no evidence to suggest that there is any more antisemitism in the party than other forms of racism, and it is being highlighted solely for political reasons. I don't think we are disagreeing. Probably poor articulation from my side.
I'm pretty sure in the UK tactical voting is done based largely on the polls and is visible through polling movements. So there may be some additional tactical voting on the day, but it's for the most part already played out and priced in.
The rise of Twitter/social media has certainly made it easier for people to abuse MPs/political figures - can imagine that it'd take a toll on the individual.
Let's just say that those wanting to become active in politics probably have to have far thicker skins nowadays, which is a shame.
Interested to see the MRP later though. Always worth remembering that regardless of whatever it says, there could be a shock on the day. Especially given how many marginal seats there are that could rest on a tiny percentage of the electorate choosing on the day.
C'mon optimism.
Let's just say that those wanting to become active in politics probably have to have far thicker skins nowadays, which is a shame.
Interested to see the MRP later though. Always worth remembering that regardless of whatever it says, there could be a shock on the day. Especially given how many marginal seats there are that could rest on a tiny percentage of the electorate choosing on the day.
C'mon optimism.
I've had a Bibles worth of literature from the Lib Dems in Wokingham in the last two weeks, plus a very vicious attack leaflet targeting "two jobs John Redwood" that didn't have an obvious source.
I'll probably hold my nose and vote for them. Having an ex-MP who defected from the Tories running here is probably the best bet to unseat the Conservatives. I'd rather not see either of them in Parliament but I absolutely loathe Redwood.
I'll probably hold my nose and vote for them. Having an ex-MP who defected from the Tories running here is probably the best bet to unseat the Conservatives. I'd rather not see either of them in Parliament but I absolutely loathe Redwood.
Edit: The 40ish% tactical voters according to the Britain Elects poll would swing this seat.
Yep. Looking at his voting record makes me feel even dirtier for checking that LD box, ugh.
I know of at least one fairly prominent local Tory member who doesn't vote for them any more, so anythings possible.
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