He was just interviewed by James O'Brien. Seems like a really good guy
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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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He was just interviewed by James O'Brien. Seems like a really good guy
Jon Ashworth is a chump. Talking shit to your Tory mate like some little school girl. get in the bin you twat.
the last four years have been like fighting with both hands tied behind your back.
the last four years have been like fighting with both hands tied behind your back.
I disagree with it, but I think a member of the Shadow Cabinet basically saying Corbyn is unfit to be PM is news. So I can't really blame them.
Labour should have purged the PLP harder.
They always complain about tone, never about the truth of the matter. These are the same arguments we see, like the sneering about "kinder, gentler politics" which horribly misunderstands what that means and who it's meant to be for.
so a photo appears of a young child on the floor of a hospital. Bad look for the Conservatives
Load of bullshit defense force nonsense starts up accusing it of being fake for political points scoring.
turns out to be not fake and the attacks potentially backfiring on the tories. This could snowball - the original was bad enough.
BBC: Quick lets focus on a random comment from a Labour politician about Corbyn to distract people
Load of bullshit defense force nonsense starts up accusing it of being fake for political points scoring.
turns out to be not fake and the attacks potentially backfiring on the tories. This could snowball - the original was bad enough.
BBC: Quick lets focus on a random comment from a Labour politician about Corbyn to distract people
We don't get to behave like Trump and sweep Ashworth under the carpet. It's a high up Labour MP trashing his leader. If this was about Boris, you, me and everyone else would want it front page news.
Ashworth deserves to have his career nuked for being a careless cunt and a fake Labour MP.
If Labour is going to lose this election then the fight begins to kick every Tory wanker out of the party. The English Red Wedding needs to follow on from Scotland.
Otherwise enjoy becoming mini-America.
TBF they are all over it on radio 2, their political guy just said there is no sewer the tories wont go down to try to change the narrative away from the child
Sorry quoted wrong person, meant to quote MrKlaw
That might be correct, but this is "big news" in a political campaign. Not for one second would any of you be claiming it shouldn't be shouted from rooftops if it was about Boris.
Tories would talk about an old lady crossing the road to divert away from the NHS.
This is 100% correct. Blame Ashworth, not the media, in this case.
Oh, the Tory media is definitely going to enjoy pushing it instead of the NHS story, that can't be ignored, but Ashworth fucked his own party here, no one else caused this.
Going on national TV and stammering about "just banter" as well. A joke. Go join Chuka in the Lib Dems.
I think the media should deal with both stories simultaneously and there is far too much incentive for those who fucked up big time yesterday (Laura Kuennesberg and Robert Peston) to shift focus.
Yesterday's story relates to the NHS crisis, then Boris' complete lack of interest in it and fucking bizarre response to a journalist asking him about it, then the Tories lying about violence and then the media parroting those lies without doing any journalism. Each of these things is a major story in its own right.
I don't disagree, I'm just not in the mood for any more Centrism defending because "it's our side!". Ashworth dug his own grave and Corbyn should despatch him to Chuka's house begging for a handout.
There's a precedent that the Labour party is riddled with Red Tories, it's the same in Scotland, and they can all get to fuck. Constantly undermining real change. And in this case, getting into bed with Tory activists.
How are we supposed to fix the NHS problems when the health secretary for Labour is behaving like a Red Tory?
I suppose the wider electorate may not realise that there is a fairly large split in Labour. We all know that, so this is not that surprising. The man on the street may see it as something new and damaging though.
I'm not going to get hung up on it but it does matter. It also doesn't help that Ashworth is the shadow health secretary and was going to be everywhere today because of yesterday.
You always expect a few last minute twists but this has been going on for years. The PLP and a good chunk of Labour have actively destroyed the party's chance of winning any election because they hate Corbyn. These same people will take none of the blame.
There was a late flurry of requests for poll Clark's at work so I said I would do it, lol.
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Feel kinda bad for Ashworth tbh. You'd not expect someone you considered a friend to betray what you said to them to the media. Pretty scummy behaviour.
Just goes to show that Laura Pidcock was entirely right when she said she'd not be friends with a Tory.
Just goes to show that Laura Pidcock was entirely right when she said she'd not be friends with a Tory.
He can be held responsible for chatting shit. I mean, what is this?
It's like a YouTuber trying to apologise by claiming they were actually the good guy when behaving like a waster.
Normal people don't tell "jokes" that involve shitting all over the leader/party they are representing. I mean, unless they are actually funny jokes. Nothing is funny about what Ashworth said. It's all the usual right-wing dogwhistles about Corbyn.
It's quite clear he wants Labour Centrism Remastered, and for that he can fuck off.
I saw that the guy was their friend since 2007 so that makes it even shittier. But in such a close election like this and a country where the media have a tendency of attacking Labour over anything, you shouldn't be saying stuff like that in their position, even in private. You never know who's listening, or recording in this instance. The attempted defense just make it worse.
Obviously there are cases of people seeing it multiple times, but 92 million is a staggering amount. Keep sharing this thing and make it the story of the week, of this whole election.
Ed Davey is having a shocker on Politics Live right now saying the Lib Dems won't back anyone to form a government.
Yet no concern from her when the Tories and the media were attacking the judiciary as being enemies of the people :thinkingemoji:
I don't get why this is a shocker? I don't think any party will ever form a coalition government again. Why bother when you just get blamed for all the majority party's policies?
If he/she actually turns out to be right, I will cry myself to death.
Our Brexit Party candidate has dropped out and encouraged his supporters to vote for the tory candidate, Karl McFuckingCartney.
I was so proud and pleased that our constituency turned over his seat in 2017, but it's going to go straight back to him, because he's being endorsed by racists and xenophobes. Oh, he's the one that was retweeting Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins' rhetoric recently as well.
Fucking tory wankers.
I was so proud and pleased that our constituency turned over his seat in 2017, but it's going to go straight back to him, because he's being endorsed by racists and xenophobes. Oh, he's the one that was retweeting Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins' rhetoric recently as well.
Fucking tory wankers.
Not talking about a coalition he's saying they won't even back a queen's speech of finance bill which basically means we would go straight to another election because we couldn't form a government.
Then he goes on to say that whoever is in charge (nobody) should do a second referendum instead. So we'd have no government for 6 months even though a Labour government would give them exactly what they want?? It's utter nonsense.
Thing is, they have engaged with pollsters and returned to the data to address feedback and criticism. I mean, it's all stated on the Twitter feed.
They had public conversations with the Curtice fellow.
They are very open on their model and addressed criticism pretty damn well.
Apprantely he noticed a weighting error in the last election but was 'ignored'
Its funny because I don't see what's bad with JC but a lot of people even labour people are like "its better of two evils" so it will be interesting to see how this affects people
Oh Lincoln? Ah that awful chap. Still, cheer yourself up with the video of him walking away sad from the count in the 2017 election or the time that he claimed someone hacked his account to like norty photos.
It's frustrating. Wasn't there a poll a few days back where over half of people who disapproved of/dislike Corbyn couldn't say why... 🙄😫
Indeed - Fellow imp? (I hope!)
That video always makes me smile. Sadly, the Lincolnite seem to have cuddled up to him a bit since then from what I see shared. (Stopped following them for a while after they went from legitimate local interest news to straight clickbait headlines)
i'm struggling to poke holes in his methods.
wonder why blue tick pollsters/data scientists aren't interacting with him. he has a fair amount of followers for what he does.
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