UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)

Audioboxer · Dec 5, 2019

SuperNintendoChalmers said:
Glad to see she's fulfilling her nuke desires by obliterating her chance of staying in her seat.

She gets me soo irrationally upset. The lies, deceit and career-politician bullshit.

I have zero faith in East Dunbartonshire. She's going to win by a few percent.

Then she'll go back to bashing everyone who is actually further left than herself by proclaiming we're all the problem.

Flammable D · Dec 5, 2019

FliXFantatier said:
I think on balance Super Hans would probably vote labour, more likely than either Mark or Jeremy anyway. 😜

Mark was definitely a Blair voter, Lib Dem/Tory toss up so far, feel like he'd be anti brexit

Jez would probably vote peace party or something

(I just started the show again from the beginning this week, I never got round to watching past season 6, I just remembered Jez's blackface episode is coming up and that will not have aged well I suspect)

Dirtyshubb · Dec 5, 2019

FliXFantatier said:
I think on balance Super Hans would probably vote labour, more likely than either Mark or Jeremy anyway. 😜

SuperNintendoChalmers said:
Mark's a fucking tory through and through.

Mark is definitely a Tory.

Jeremy I could see either going Libs or more likely gets into a chat with some dodgy independent and goes all in on supporting them and getting screwed over in the process.

FliX · Dec 5, 2019

SuperNintendoChalmers said:
Mark's a fucking tory through and through.

Jeremy would probably vote BXP just to fuck shit up.

Winstano · Dec 5, 2019

null said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/elect...how-do-grimsby-s-food-bank-users-want-to-vote

I think this election might break me as a person.

I'm already there. Grimsby isn't that far from me (fuck the codheads etc), and this rhetoric is filtered down across everyone. It's insane. Saw a Labour campaign ad on FB last night with the (admittedly dubious) £6k savings touted, and every single response was "Well I don't have a railcard, I'm voting for Boris"...

We're fucked. We're utterly, utterly fucked.

Acorn · Dec 5, 2019

I miss the time before I knew their real political views.

Wallace Wells · Dec 5, 2019

So where was Phillip's outrage and shouting trying to make Boris to apologise for being racist, homophobic etc etc

oh wait...

Audioboxer · Dec 5, 2019

Winstano said:
I'm already there. Grimsby isn't that far from me (fuck the codheads etc), and this rhetoric is filtered down across everyone. It's insane. Saw a Labour campaign ad on FB last night with the (admittedly dubious) £6k savings touted, and every single response was "Well I don't have a railcard, I'm voting for Boris"...

We're fucked. We're utterly, utterly fucked.

Even Lab Rats learn very quickly not to hurt themselves in experiments by avoiding pushing the button which doesn't reward them.

Whereas the British people are like "Oh, that button doesn't give me food? Well, I'm going to keep pushing it".

NullPointerException · Dec 5, 2019

Dirtyshubb said:
Jeremy I could see either going Libs or more likely gets into a chat with some dodgy independent and goes all in on supporting them and getting screwed over in the process.

I could definitely see Jeremy initially going for Libs and then - at the last minute - get talked up by some dodgy independent, voting for them and then proudly telling Mark about it.

Geoff · Dec 5, 2019

FliXFantatier said:
Jeremy would probably vote BXP just to fuck shit up.

Jeremy is the epitome of "I voted remain but now I think, you know, we should just get brexit done?"

Acorn · Dec 5, 2019

Audioboxer said:
Even Lab Rats learn very quickly not to hurt themselves in experiments by avoiding pushing the button which doesn't reward them.

Whereas the British people are like "Oh, that button doesn't give me food? Well, I'm going to keep pushing it".

Dugdale? 😂

Deleted member 8463 · Dec 5, 2019

take me back to the halcyon days (tuesday) where we pondered the grilling he could get from Schofield lol

Jeremy would absolutely vote for Cringe UK. Good fit for a terf

Dirtyshubb · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
Jeremy is the epitome of "I voted remain but now I think, you know, we should just get brexit done?"

I actually read that in his voice 😂

T002 Tyrant · Dec 5, 2019

SuperNintendoChalmers said:
Mark's a fucking tory through and through.

Mark is a Tory, and Jeremy says he'll vote Labour but doesn't actually vote. Hans says he won't vote but secretly will vote Labour on the day.

Audioboxer · Dec 5, 2019

dean_rcg said:
Tice and Cleverly, not sure I can stomach that.

Watch it just to see if Blackford can rustle some jimmies. I'm not the biggest fan of the guy but when he gets going he can roast some gammon from time to time.

Winstano · Dec 5, 2019

Audioboxer said:
Even Lab Rats learn very quickly not to hurt themselves in experiments by avoiding pushing the button which doesn't reward them.

Whereas the British people are like "Oh, that button doesn't give me food? Well, I'm going to keep pushing it".

There's an excellent Bill Hicks skit from the early 90s where he's talking about keeping the tories in... "Y'all into S&M?... OW that hurts... Keep doin' it. Yeeeooooowwwwwwwdon't stop".

Depressing that this is still relevant almost 30 years later.

NullPointerException · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
Jeremy is the epitome of "I voted remain but now I think, you know, we should just get brexit done?"

😂😂😂😂

Kalor · Dec 5, 2019

I couldn't watch the interview but I saw that apparently Johnson didn't realize you had to hit a button to take a selfie. Can't say that surprises me.

Deleted member 38573 · Dec 5, 2019

Wallace Wells said:
So where was Phillip's outrage and shouting trying to make Boris to apologise for being racist, homophobic etc etc

oh wait...

Acorn · Dec 5, 2019

Kalor said:
I couldn't watch the interview but I saw that apparently Johnson didn't realize you had to hit a button to take a selfie. Can't say that surprises me.

How...how did he think it worked?

Wallace Wells · Dec 5, 2019

coconut milk said:

We do sure love holding our politicians to account

Protome · Dec 5, 2019

Acorn said:
How...how did he think it worked?

Well you just stand there and you get the boy to take the photo

Gareth · Dec 5, 2019

Kalor said:
I couldn't watch the interview but I saw that apparently Johnson didn't realize you had to hit a button to take a selfie. Can't say that surprises me.

I'd guess that's part of the act.

FliX · Dec 5, 2019

Gareth said:
I'd guess that's part of the act.

Lovable buffoon™ 🤮

electroshockwave · Dec 5, 2019

Flammable D said:
I'm going to be so sad in a week's time

I think this is the most infuriating Tory lie I've seen yet. Anyone who has paid attention will have noticed the drastic increase in rough sleepers and homeless people on the streets since 2010. They've been in power for 9 years, almost as long as the previous Labour government, and Despicable Me here wants to shift the blame.

Audioboxer · Dec 5, 2019

electroshockwave said:
I think this is the most infuriating Tory lie I've seen yet. Anyone who has paid attention will have noticed the drastic increase in rough sleepers and homeless people on the streets since 2010. They've been in power for 9 years, almost as long as the previous Labour government, and Despicable Me here wants to shift the blame.

Sajid is one of the most evil people in the UK.

A horrible man by every definition possible.

Ando · Dec 5, 2019

the "successful" tory campaign still predicated on the sadly correct assumption that if you exclusively lie about everything then the media isn't actually equipped to do anything about it

Acorn · Dec 5, 2019

Lab's decreasing of the homeless numbers is low-key one of the biggest achievements of modern uk govts.

SlumberingGiant · Dec 5, 2019

How are people supposed to know who is lying when the media can't or won't point it out?

Geoff · Dec 5, 2019

I think most people would be sceptical of claims by the tories of having reduced Labour homelessness.

Apart from anything else, everyone can see the problem has worsened.

ruttyboy · Dec 5, 2019

You know the saddest thing about the Andrew Neil debacle? It's that he is seen as some top tier hard nut interviewer just because he actually, sometimes, calls people on their blatant well known lies and bullshit. That should be the absolute bare minimum to expect from a political journalist. Hell, it should be the bare mimimum from ANY actual journalist.

And to add to the tragedy of the whole thing, it should be easy, given his interview style, for any politician to get through an interview with him if they just told the truth (at the time and in their career). Except they can't because lies are an accepted and expected part of politics.

Shit's depressing man.

Audioboxer · Dec 5, 2019

tHe liB dEMs aRe NOt tOrIeS

SlumberingGiant · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
I think most people would be sceptical of claims by the tories of having reduced Labour homelessness.

Apart from anything else, everyone can see the problem has worsened.

People have a knack for ignoring reality

Geoff · Dec 5, 2019

SlumberingGiant said:
People have a knack for ignoring reality

There's a limit to that though surely?

Deleted member 1726 · Dec 5, 2019

Where is Laura K recently? Dont seem to have seen much from her.

nekkid · Dec 5, 2019

I get the feeling that the BBC think that if they're getting an equal number of complaints from left and right viewers/readers that they're being unbiased.

Dirtyshubb · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
There's a limit to that though surely?

Thats the thing, for millions of people, no.

No matter what evidence or sus things are shown to them, they will keep moving those goal posts and justifying it however best they can.

TheBlackMarvel · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
There's a limit to that though surely?

Eoin · Dec 5, 2019

Gareth said:
I'd guess that's part of the act.

My opinion of Boris' "act" used to be that he was probably a relatively smart person acting like a buffoon as a political disguise.

I've changed my mind on that though. I'm now fairly sure that he's a person of mediocre or below intelligence, whose smartest-ever moment was the realisation that if he acted like a buffoon people would think that anyone acting so stupid must be smart, and also that any genuinely stupid moments on his part would be written off as part of the act.

Geoff said:
There's a limit to that though surely?

Not sure. If we asked for objective evidence of that limit, what would you point at?

Ithil · Dec 5, 2019

null said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/elect...how-do-grimsby-s-food-bank-users-want-to-vote

I think this election might break me as a person.

If even you think liking Boris is the awful option, then you're an awful person and admitting it.

jelly · Dec 5, 2019

So those Brexit MEPs that quit, does that mean they aren't MEPs anymore, ie not taking an EU salary etc.?

NullPointerException · Dec 5, 2019

Now lets imagine how this would have been written if it was Jeremy Corbyn who was incapable of knowing how to take a selfie.

Replace "and ta-da" with "if this man is incapable of knowing how to press a button then how is he capable of running this country?".

Geoff · Dec 5, 2019

Eoin said:
My opinion of Boris' "act" used to be that he was probably a relatively smart person acting like a buffoon as a political disguise.

I've changed my mind on that though. I'm now fairly sure that he's a person of mediocre or below intelligence, whose smartest-ever moment was the realisation that if he acted like a buffoon people would think that anyone acting so stupid must be smart, and also that any genuinely stupid moments on his part would be written off as part of the act.

Not sure. If we asked for objective evidence of that limit, what would you point at?

The NHS seems to be one issue where the public haven't really wholeheartedly swallowed the gov't lines. It's out if the news cycle now but that one worked.

If you can see homeless people around you where there weren't any before, surely it's hard to believe that Labour are the problem, especially because Tory supporters support the Tories because they are tough on benefits and hand-outs. I think it was maybe one lie too many

Eoin · Dec 5, 2019

jelly said:
So those Brexit MEPs that quit, does that mean they aren't MEPs anymore, ie not taking an EU salary etc.?

Seemingly they are remaining as MEPs:

(If they stood down the Brexit Party would replace them with other candidates from their list.)

Acorn · Dec 5, 2019

jelly said:
So those Brexit MEPs that quit, does that mean they aren't MEPs anymore, ie not taking an EU salary etc.?

Haha ofcourse not, that would be crazy. They just left the party they were elected for and kept on cashing that cheque like our MP switchers.

Rodelero · Dec 5, 2019

nekkid said:
I get the feeling that the BBC think that if they're getting an equal number of complaints from left and right viewers/readers that they're being unbiased.

This is how the BBC's Fran Unsworth ends that Guardian article discussed previously:

I don't necessarily subscribe to the view that if we get complaints from both sides, we are doing something right – though we do receive roughly equal volumes of audience feedback suggesting we favour opposite sides of the political spectrum.

And to those who have suggested we are somehow cowed or unconfident, let me assure you – we are not.

"I don't subscribe to this proving anything but here it is anyway hahaha"

Geoff · Dec 5, 2019

Rodelero said:
This is how the BBC's Fran Unsworth ends that Guardian article discussed previously:

"I don't subscribe to this proving anything but here it is anyway hahaha"

That's a strong rebuttal in the last sentence.

'Are not'

Rodelero · Dec 5, 2019

Geoff said:
That's a strong rebuttal in the last sentence.

'Are not'

It comes across incredibly poorly in an article which is making incredibly dubious experiences for the PM not having been interviewed by Neil and them bottling it by allowing him to be interviewed by Marr.

SwitchedOff · Dec 5, 2019

Xun said:
People in this country are fucking idiots.

I have sympathy for their situation but not for the fact they are shooting themselves in the fucking foot.

It takes a large degree of gullible stupidity for anyone in their situation to vote Tory.

Dirtyshubb · Dec 5, 2019

Daffy Duck said:
Where is Laura K recently? Dont seem to have seen much from her.

Oh you know, the usual.

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