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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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Labour goes up in the polls and now the anti-semitism rampage starts in the MSM... All I'm saying is, that timing!
It's now the main article BBC are running here
It's now the main article BBC are running here
The politcisation of anti-semitism is betraying the fight against it. The Chief Rabbi is weaponising it against Corbyn and Labour but refuses to speak out on the Conservative Party's shameless cosying up to the far right in Europe and blatant anti-semite Viktor Orban.
Perhaps he should turn his questions onto Boris Johnson
Boris is very happy with his friends in Hungary
They really are in panic mode now. I can't believe that the Labour supporter getting attaked isn't getting more coverage.
I was thinking, the overwhelming amount of coverage that this gets compared to ongoing issues of racism with black or Islamic people is practically begging for a 'Jews control the media' trope. Of course that's not the case, the right wing control the media and it currently suits them to push this hard.
What indeed.
Huh...
Now let's see if the BBC or The Times or any others mention these claims of "longstanding friend".
lib dem 2017 campaign leaflet, they never change
FUCKING SCENES in that hastings. Raab is getting demolished and just making things worse.
His following tweets dont let up on the fuckery.
JESUS CHRIST at her approval rating tanking hard in that article.
They are on course for sub 11 polling. Should have never fucked it FULLY with going balls deep into tory land.
wadda surprise
Huh...
can't wait for another day of hand-wringing from right-wing blue ticks
Frontpage of Sky News now as well
Tory propaganda in response to the Labour polls successful.
Tory propaganda in response to the Labour polls successful.
The media are justifying this being a big deal because it's so unusual for a religious leader to make such partisan statements. Lol.
Now let's see if the BBC or The Times or any others mention these claims of "longstanding friend".
I don't think that is saying they are personally longstanding friends but that Johnson has been a longstanding friend of the Jewish community. Obviously ignoring johnson's courting of anti-semite far right.
It's a fucking ruse anyway that's being released now for political gain.
He still says he is "delighted" that Boris has become Prime Minister. I can't imagine Justin Welby saying that (though to be fair I've really never looked into the bullshit spouted by any of these religious leaders because... I don't know... their entire world view is based on nonsense?)
"Mr Mirvis's attack coincides with Labour launching its Race and Faith Manifesto, which includes to teach children about colonialism, injustice and the role of the British Empire as part of the national curriculum."
oh it gets better. Guess what we won't be talking about tomorrow.
oh it gets better. Guess what we won't be talking about tomorrow.
Remember Britain is still a semi-Theocracy. The Queen is the Head of State and Head of Church. Justin Welby is as much a political appointee as a religious one. So when Justin Welby was supporting Labour positions last year the Conservatives were outraged
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There's a really good blog outlining all the good she has done and her voting record, contrasting it with the ridiculous amount of vitriol and abuse that gets thrown her way. I posted it either here or at the old place before, but can't find it any more which is a shame because the points it makes are still relevant now.
That is kinda common when they talk about social economic policy, and they tend to be a bit more to the conservative end on personal morality, kind of like Jesus for some reason.
It's standard right wing bullshit to completely ignore that Jesus is (at minimum) a socialist.
I think every leader of the CofE gets called a lefty at some point and they usually are anything but, it's just showing some concern for their community. Welby is a city trader or something similar if I remember correctly.
lol, probably not the best person for Corbyn to go on a livestream with right now.
Probably should've emphasised in my post that I wasn't serious!
It's so incredibly frustrating.
The Tories will win this election easily.
Not trying to whataboutism the anti-Semitic elements in the Labour party, but when was the last time a black or brown person calling out the Tory's institutional racism and Islamophobia got headline billing on BBC News?
Warsi has been pretty vocal - not sure how the media covered it though.
I'd still say this is fairly big news - regardless of how choreographed it appears in terms of timing.
FWIW, this seems to be headline news on every major site I'm visiting. Guardian/ITV/Sky/BBC etc etc
Anyone pretending that the anti semitism in Labour thing isn't now just a crux used for propaganda against Labour is frankly fucking insane at this point. It's so clear. Whatever issues are there are nowhere big enough to justify this endless, truly endless onslaught about it. Especially after Windriah, Grenfell, Boris' literal racist articles which he has never apologised for. The second the Tories need some shelter yet another prominent anti semitism article comes to the fore, purely because someone else comes out and mentioned it rather than there being any actual anti Semitic events to cover.
Exactly Boris, doubled down on his racism in a live question time, he didn't apologise, he basically just said "freedom of speech init". Its getting fucking ridiculous, its getting to the point where I hope these cunts do get a Boris and his Brexit. There is no chance they won't be regretting that eventually.
Ain't that the truth? I would describe myself as a (quite lapsed) Christian and this evening highlighted that an article shared on Facebook by my old church leader (let's call him Tim) titled 'Labour pledge to legalise abortion upto birth' was factually inaccurate, if not intentionally misleading.
A number of people in his church had reacted and commented that they could therefore not vote Labour. I replied pointing out the innacuracy (the policy is to decriminalise receiving an illegal abortion), that no political party has a policy to reduce access to abortion, and that, if abortion is your single issue (I'm not personally pro-life), Labour has a raft of policies that will improve life for women and could contribute to substantially reducing the number of abortions in the UK.
Tim deleted my comments, deleted my comment asking if he'd deleted my comment, then defriended and blocked me when I messaged him asking what was going on. Guess I won't be going back to his church :(
Sorry for the long off-topic post - it was a bit of very depressing social media drama that has me rattled and feeling pretty down this evening.
EDIT: maybe worth pointing out, he doesn't represent the CofE - his church is an evangelical free church. And our local CofE vicar is actually pretty rad - went on the people's vote march with her earlier in the year :)
It shouldn't be. The guy is a tory bibi fan, and him trying to pass off representing Jewish people generally when he represents an orthodox minority is especially disingenuous. I'm not even slightly surprised that our press have regurgitated it.
For obvious reasons, Leave voters really hate people who want to stop Brexit.
The main concern is that Swinson has a net less positive rating with Remain voters now. She's gained Remain voters but has also had more don't knows flip to dislike.
I do think there is an element of strategy to it - the press has settled on a "LD crisis!" strategy when the LDs are currently polling over double what they did at the 2017 GE, but there is truth to the presidential style not working for the campaign. Revoke is good policy, though. Makes more sense for the LDs than Labour.
The key thing the LDs need to do is get the vote out in target seats. It's a bit annoying to read Labour people going "man I hope the LDs get crushed" when Labour doing badly this election is the reason we have to worry about a Boris government. :/ There are dozens of seats where a LD can win that can stop a Tory majority and where Labour are not going to win this cycle.
If Labour voters decide to make some point about purity and help elect Johnson as PM for four years, then they're aiding and abetting the Tory agenda.
Obviously that does not apply in Labour seats, and Labour need to be applying that same squeeze to local Lib Dems, who are also served by voting tactically to stop Boris.
Interestingly it seems like Boris looking like he might get a big majority is helpful to both Labour and the LDs. Hopefully, voters in the marginals can overcome their distate for the tactical options they have to go for. :l
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I think we are seeing Labour and Lib Dem supporters working together tactically. Good example is Raab's constituency, I've seen posts online where the consensus is to pool together behind the LD candidate, could see a massive swing there.
A bit of organising and some nose holding could see quite a few high profile tories losing their seats. Which would be great for my election night drinking game.
A bit of organising and some nose holding could see quite a few high profile tories losing their seats. Which would be great for my election night drinking game.
I got a Brexit Party leaflet today. One of those "don't waste your vote, only we can win here" types. It actually gave me a bit of hope, because it will entice a few chumps away from the Conservatives.
There are a lot of newly un-shy Tories around here. A split vote will help Labour hold the seat.
There are a lot of newly un-shy Tories around here. A split vote will help Labour hold the seat.
The Tories, Making Racism Great Again...
Edit: I don't remember seeing this posted:
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Steady now. There are plenty of white Jewish people, myself included, who absolutely don't think that way. Anyone who claims to speak for an entire community is wrong. Let's not play into the narrative and jump to sweeping generalisations.
Did you..........
Did you just try and insinuate that Boris Johnson actually speaking lots of factually racist words out of his mouth and conservative government rounding up british citizens of west Indian heritage and illegally deporting them to countries they know nothing about, with nothing but their clothes, in order to reach unrealistic immigration tartgets......
Is worse than (literally only labour and definitely not anyone else, only labour) people being horrible to other people on twitter???????????????
Typical guardian reader.
As the poster above said though, how all this gets played out isn't actually the fault of all white jews here in the uk. Many white Jews will be voting for Corbyn and are supportive of other non jews who suffer other types of racism, despite the narrative.
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You're right Gareth, you aren't anti-semitic at all.
Christ, why don't you chuck the word "globalist" in there, you know you want to.
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WHAT!?
Can you hear yourselves?
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