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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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Sorry but the UK affects Ireland and I can't be sorry for you anymore.
You the individual are fine.
But your country is a shower of uneducated bastards. The people who vote Tory deserve what they get.
Especially the working class.
Yep, agreed. If the exit poll is right (and it seems that it is), I fully expect he'll resign tomorrow.
So Swinson may well be heading towards getting Clegg'd
That's what? 3 of the last 3 leaders [who weren't Vince Cable] who have completely fucked it. (5 for 5 on their leaders resigning in this century on very sour terms.)
and that's disregarding helping to inflict austerity on us, disregarding tuition fees, disregarding the misleading propaganda during this election
I don't ever want to hear about this fucking party ever again. In a just world, the Liberal Democrats have 0 seats.
Whoever labour put up would have been smeared just the same as corbyn was. They would have trotted out some fucking routine
Labour loses in a landslide and Ishii has no singles match on Jan 4th. World is gone to shit.
I don't believe in non-hardline leave voters. I think Tories and Brexit party to a smaller extend managed to grab all who care about getting Brexit done. I'm curious about the comparison between the total number of votes these two parties got and the Leave vote.
Despite myself, I laughed.
It's ok, I remembered my flatmate has whisky downstairs I can dip into when my own stocks run dry. Thanks though <3
p.s. please don't top yourself comrade. the fight goes on.
at least he lost the popular vote. i feel good living in the third dumbest country, germany, where we are at least kinda aware of how goddamn awful we are
imo there are two delusions
the delusion from corbynites that it wasn't massively to do with corbyn's vast unpopularity and the toxic reaction to him outside of his base, and the delusion from remainers it wasn't massively to do with leavers having a backlash to the way remainers have acted since the referendum in 2016 and delaying brexit to try to push a second referendum.
you can't explain swings this huge without both
the delusion from corbynites that it wasn't massively to do with corbyn's vast unpopularity and the toxic reaction to him outside of his base, and the delusion from remainers it wasn't massively to do with leavers having a backlash to the way remainers have acted since the referendum in 2016 and delaying brexit to try to push a second referendum.
you can't explain swings this huge without both
Going to dust off my Celtic Super-State plans for consideration, although I'm very tempted to keep Wales off it.
Yeah, until Brexit is done the UK will be in the hands of the conservatives.
Trump at least made an attempt to convey a anti-establishment/anti-globalisation message so he'd help the working class despite it being obvious bullshit. All Boris had was "Get Brexit done" whilst hiding in fridges and cowering from photos displaying the suffering his government caused. This is after Brexit's already caused the pound to free fall and jobs to leave the country.
The UK are 100% stupider than the US.
That's why you play smart and replace him in the summer. A smear campaign takes time to work. Compare 2017 to now.
Yeah...No.
Sorry to be hurting your imaginary hero but dude was absolutely unelectable and anyone watching that wasn't a labor supporter knew that. The worst thing that happened to the UK labor party was May blowing the 2017 elections because then labor supporters suddenly thought what they had was working when in reality it was simply May being that bad.
I live in the North West, seen my home town utterly gutted by Thatcher in what was called a managed decline. Would never ever vote Tory and neither would any of my family or neighbours.
We deserve everything we are about to get and more. We can oppose as much as we want but we are the minority. People want this and have voted for it. Somewhere down the line it has to click that not enough people think like me and you. People are selfish, people lack empathy and the only thing they want is their Brexit.
<3 I won't. I'm fucking furious and I plan to stay this way.
it's just not true that a soft Brexit with remaining inside the single market and the customs union would do that. the economic effect would be very minor. the idea that Hard Brexit and Soft Brexit are identical is such a frustrating myth
me rn:
If I had any booze in the house right now I would be doing the same.
So (according to Sky) Blyth Valley would indicate a national swing of 10% towards the Tories. At least 10%...
It's true. I was just thinking the only way for left wing parties to win is to play the game and manipulate media cycles like this
Also can I say as an outsider in this election I am shocked at the performance of the BBC during this election and their repeated inability and unwillingness to call out lies of the Tory party. They're a disgrace.
Honestly I don't think our outlook is much better with SD around. Just feels like we're postponing the inevitable.
Labour will lose 2024 too
No party has ever gained as many seats as they would to to win the next election
We may have 20 years of tory rule im total from 2010 before a change...
No party has ever gained as many seats as they would to to win the next election
We may have 20 years of tory rule im total from 2010 before a change...
It's not identical, but you're still way worse off than if you remained. Actively voting to regress economically and socially is simply baffling.
Fuck.
These are the things I anticipate:
1) the Tories to act as though the entire country loves them, ignore loser's consent entirely, and continue to be utterly contemptible shits
2) Labour to be riven by the classic sectarian bitterness the left has somehow nearly always managed to excel at
3) SNP to make a sad face sad face as they beep that truck up the high street and waaaaay outta sight (wtf am I talking about, drunk)
4) an already tires discourse of wailing about bubbles and echo chambers and how stupid/informed voters are all designed to make the speaker feel better about themselves
5) my life to continue to be good, because I am insulates by privilege and it's revoltingly unfair. Fuck the Tories and their knowing lies, their knowing condescension, their knowing mendacity, their knowing cruelty, their knowing viciousness, their failing upwards, their short termism, their lack of imagination
These are the things I anticipate:
1) the Tories to act as though the entire country loves them, ignore loser's consent entirely, and continue to be utterly contemptible shits
2) Labour to be riven by the classic sectarian bitterness the left has somehow nearly always managed to excel at
3) SNP to make a sad face sad face as they beep that truck up the high street and waaaaay outta sight (wtf am I talking about, drunk)
4) an already tires discourse of wailing about bubbles and echo chambers and how stupid/informed voters are all designed to make the speaker feel better about themselves
5) my life to continue to be good, because I am insulates by privilege and it's revoltingly unfair. Fuck the Tories and their knowing lies, their knowing condescension, their knowing mendacity, their knowing cruelty, their knowing viciousness, their failing upwards, their short termism, their lack of imagination
Have to agree with people saying Corbyn is a factor here. It also hurt Labour that he sat on the fence regarding Brexit.
Sorry to have to point out the obvious thing these results are saying. The only chance a Labour candidate had is if they promised a swifter better Brexit whilst tearing down the Tory's inability to get one.
I wouldn't actually worry about that "rule" -- there aren't enough elections in modern times for a large enough sample size to take anything from this.
I'd like to remind people that Corbyn is hated because Murdoch wants him to be hated. Any left leaning leader in the UK would have gotten the same treatment. Tony Blair is the best you're allowed to get.
Yep. Same shit worldwide wherever cunt News Corp has a foothold in whatever bastard guise it puts itself under.
Boris johnson hid in a fridge to avoid looking at sick children.
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